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	<title>Comments on: Jobs Reveals Load of New Apple Products</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Strattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Strattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed a similar column does not make it fact, but I did cite a source/backup for my opinion, which is more than I often find from those who would claim Vista steals from OSX doing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed a similar column does not make it fact, but I did cite a source/backup for my opinion, which is more than I often find from those who would claim Vista steals from OSX doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard2k</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2006/01/jobs-reveals-load-of-new-apple-products/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not get carried away.  Just because a columnist at TechNewsWorld has a similar viewpoint does not make it fact.  

Konfabulator was envisioned in 2000.  I&#039;d be more willing to accept that OS X and Vista BOTH copied from Konfabulator (and again, it&#039;s debatable) then believe Mr Enderle.   If you (Or Mr Enderle) can show me that Microsoft had previewed their Sidebar technology in 2000-2001 then I think you have an arguable point.   

Apple certainly were able to bring the technologies to market quicker than Microsoft, that&#039;s a fair point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not get carried away.  Just because a columnist at TechNewsWorld has a similar viewpoint does not make it fact.  </p>
<p>Konfabulator was envisioned in 2000.  I&#8217;d be more willing to accept that OS X and Vista BOTH copied from Konfabulator (and again, it&#8217;s debatable) then believe Mr Enderle.   If you (Or Mr Enderle) can show me that Microsoft had previewed their Sidebar technology in 2000-2001 then I think you have an arguable point.   </p>
<p>Apple certainly were able to bring the technologies to market quicker than Microsoft, that&#8217;s a fair point.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Strattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Strattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I shake my head at you howard, we can be head shaking twins.  OS X did not have them first, it got them to market first.  Having only a very very limited scope of hardware and OSes that are just small revisions to existing setups rather than a complete rebuild enable apple to bring things to market quicker than microsoft can.  It&#039;s an advantage, but it doesn&#039;t mean that people can run around claiming Microsoft copied Apple.
However, I knew someone would disagree, so I spent a couple minutes researching ahead of time.
Check here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technewsworld.com/story/42728.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.technewsworld.com/story/42728.html&lt;/a&gt;
&quot;Borrowing heavily from what we had seen in Longhorn (Microsoft&#039;s next version of Windows) last year, Tiger is an impressive piece of work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I shake my head at you howard, we can be head shaking twins.  OS X did not have them first, it got them to market first.  Having only a very very limited scope of hardware and OSes that are just small revisions to existing setups rather than a complete rebuild enable apple to bring things to market quicker than microsoft can.  It&#8217;s an advantage, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that people can run around claiming Microsoft copied Apple.<br />
However, I knew someone would disagree, so I spent a couple minutes researching ahead of time.<br />
Check here: <a href="http://www.technewsworld.com/story/42728.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.technewsworld.com/story/42728.html</a><br />
&#8220;Borrowing heavily from what we had seen in Longhorn (Microsoft&#8217;s next version of Windows) last year, Tiger is an impressive piece of work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Howard2k</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2006/01/jobs-reveals-load-of-new-apple-products/comment-page-1/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, Richard, Richard...  I&#039;m shaking my head right now. 

Widgets a rip off of Vista? Please.
1 - A more arguable position is that they were ripped from Konfabulator, however even that is a debatable point and I&#039;m sure Bud Tribble would agree with me.  
2 - OS X has had them natively for almost a year now in publicly shipping final release products (i.e. not Beta).   OS X has had them via Konfabulator for some time before that.

With all due respect, I don&#039;t think there is ANY reputable claim that can be made that the Widget was Vista creation.  

It&#039;s just one of many &quot;new features&quot; that are coming to Windows users via Vista, that other OS users have enjoyed for a year or more.   Welcome to the second half of the decade Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, Richard, Richard&#8230;  I&#8217;m shaking my head right now. </p>
<p>Widgets a rip off of Vista? Please.<br />
1 &#8211; A more arguable position is that they were ripped from Konfabulator, however even that is a debatable point and I&#8217;m sure Bud Tribble would agree with me.<br />
2 &#8211; OS X has had them natively for almost a year now in publicly shipping final release products (i.e. not Beta).   OS X has had them via Konfabulator for some time before that.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I don&#8217;t think there is ANY reputable claim that can be made that the Widget was Vista creation.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one of many &#8220;new features&#8221; that are coming to Windows users via Vista, that other OS users have enjoyed for a year or more.   Welcome to the second half of the decade Microsoft.</p>
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