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Review : HP iPAQ 310 Travel Companion

Posted by JakeRich on February 6, 2008 – 1:34 pm
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Developer/Vendor: Hewlett Packard (Hewlett Packard)
Price: $449.99 (MSRP)
Rating (3 out of 5):

I watched Chris unbox the HP 310 Travel Companion here. I’m not going to add a lot of screenshots of the system in this review, for two reasons: 1) it doesn’t have the ability to take screenshots natively and you cannot install any third party software to do so, and 2) it doesn’t follow any standard for connecting to a PC, so you cannot use any of the third party remote desktop software to capture the screen. Chris’ video shows the screen resolution and most of the menus, so I encourage you to watch the unboxing.

hpipaq310i

I really wanted to like this device. And when I first powered it up, I was really impressed. The screen is big, bright and very smooth. The unit itself is a sleek, good looking device, and the window mount is sturdy. I figured it all would look really nice in my car. It does look nice, but unfortunately, the performance of it as a navigation system doesn’t match the good looks.

Testing Environment

I tested the unit in my car, in my basement and in various locations in Northern Virginia.

What you get

Chris’ video shows what is in the box. You get:

  • The HP 310, with stylus and a slip case
  • Power cord (USB to mini-USB)
  • Power adapter for car
  • Power unit for wall
  • Windshield mount (suction cup)
  • Disk for dashboard mounting
  • Manuals (warranty) and a CDROM disk

Technical Specifications

According to the HP website, the tech specs are:

  • Integrated wireless - Integrated GPS navigation, Integrated Bluetooth v2.0 with EDR
  • Processor – Centrality Titan 600MHz
  • Operating system – Windows CE 5.0 with custom HP user interface
  • Display –   4.3″ transmissive TFT 16-bit RGB depth 65,000 color WVGA 800 x 480 pixel touch screen display, antiglare, landscape orientation
  • Memory – 128MB SDRAM main memory for running applications (may vary by country) Up to 2 GB Flash ROM (depending on model/may vary by country) User available persistent storage varies by model
  • Weight – 187 g (6.60 oz) with battery
  • Battery – 1700 mAh Lithium Ion rechargeable, user changeable battery
  • Expansion – High-capacity SD card slot
  • Audio – Large speaker for navigation volume, integrated microphone with echo cancellation, 3.5mm 3 pin headphone jack
  • Included accessories – Windshield mount with device holder, dashboard mount disc, car charger, standard battery, AC charger, mini-USB cable, carrying case
  • Dimensions – 86.8mm x 110.2mm x 18.2mm (3.4 x 4.3 x 0.7 in)

HP310-and-X50v-in-location

Using the HP 310

Here is a picture of the unit with my Axim X50v, both with navigation software running.

As you can see, the screen of the HP310 is bigger and the resolution of 800X480 makes that screen very smooth, with no jaggies visible at all. It scrolls very smoothly. The built-in non-glare surface makes it very readable, even in bright sunlight. My Axim has a non-reflective screen protector and is, in this picture, running at a high backlight level. The HP310 has a setting to change brightness from day to night, but none to change brightness when on battery or external power. This picture shows the daytime color scheme. Chris’ unboxing shows the night scheme, with blue roads on a black background. With a minimum brightness setting for night, and with the black background, the HP310 is not distracting at night, but bright enough to make use very easy.

The software in the HP310 is based on the system from Nav’n’Go, a company that also sells the same software as OnCourseNavigator6 (link), iGo and the Mio systems (link). The system uses TeleAtlas maps, which have some issues in my area, but the issues are easy to work around given I know of them. In your particular area, if you have map problems with TomTom or any other TeleAtlas based system, you’ll have the same issues with the HP 310.

Navigation begins by tapping on the little house icon in the bottom right. From there you are taken to the main screen, and from there you can select your destination, via points and tell the system to commence the calculations. Route planning is quick. You can display the entire route and look at the itinerary. You can also decide to keep a trip log, if you want, that can later be exported to a .gpx file on an SD card. You can also designate how you want the route to be calculated. You can choose a route for a car, taxi, bus, truck or bicycle. You can choose a fast, short or economical route. And you can turn on or off the automatic recalculation. You can also tell the system to display your position always on a road (snap-to-road) or not. You can tell it to avoid unpaved roads, ferries, cross-border planning, permit-only and toll roads. The options screen has Highways unselected and U-turns selected but both are greyed out and unchangeable. That situation says it will not avoid highways and will avoid U-turns.

In the sound options it has the typical options for volume, but it also has a Dynamic Volume on/off and minimum speed/maximum speed setting. Apparently this function will increase the volume based on the measured speed, compensating for the increased background noise from that higher speed travel. In practice, I didn’t see any difference. The system will issue warnings when you approach POIs designated as “safety cameras.” You can turn this function off, if you wish. The US maps don’t have safety camera information, but if you know of one in your area, you can enter the data on a special screen just for those POI. Of course, that doesn’t help you in strange locations, and if you know where the camera is, you don’t need the warning, but I guess there is some benefit there somewhere.

Regional settings allow you to choose the language, voice and units used in the display. You can also choose whether to update the clock from the GPS signal or not, and chose the time format (12-24 hours).

The system lets you chose languages and voices. I chose American Female, which resulted in a very pleasant voice. The text-to-speech function allows the HP 310 to annunciate street names, so the voice prompting says things like, “Turn left in 400 feet onto Heatherford Place” instead of just “turn left in 400 feet.” Hearing the street name is helpful, particularly in unfamiliar territory.

You can choose your destination from your contacts list, by

  • touching the map,
  • entering coordinates,
  • selecting a POI,
  • entering an address,
  • picking from recent destinations or via points (history).

The system has capability for TMC, if you have a TMC receiver, but I don’t and there is no TMC in my area, so I couldn’t test that. You can also download a planned map from the HP website.

What worked

What worked well was that the screen is bright, clear and responsive. The voice was understandable, clearly pronouncing each word. It even properly pronounced the name of my street, an accomplishment that no other Text-to-speech system has been able to claim! Menus were finger-friendly and I never had to resort to the stylus. Re-routing was swiftly done and the system seemed to work well finding a new route. I also was able to register the package, get to the HP IPAQ Navigate website and download a system update. It had the option to download maps, but it said my maps were up-to-date, so I didn’t use that function. After the software update, the system soft-reset automatically.

The mount holds the unit firmly when it is stuck to the glass (but see what didn’t work about the mount below) and it was very easy to adjust the screen to an optimum position. The system comes with a suction cup disk that can be glued to your dashboard if you live in a location that prohibits anything from being stuck to the windshield itself. The arm on the holder is short and very rigid and it held the unit without vibration at all.

What didn’t work

The sad part of this device is that although it is beautiful looking, it is severely crippled in functionality compared to the other GPS options using the Nav’n’Go software. Apparently HP wanted to make it easier to use, so they took out most of the many options that Nav’n’Go has in the system, leaving the HP 310 with confusing and inadequate Settings and options. For example, look at the picture of the HP 310 with my Axim X50v. The screen of the 310 is larger, almost as large as the entire X50v, but the amount of map you can see from top to bottom is actually smaller on the 310 than on the X50v. One of the reasons for that difference is that on the 310, the zoom options are limited to Smart Zoom on or off, Restore lock-to-position on or off and Zoom in after find, on or off and that’s all. On the X50v, running OCN6, I can select the parameters for Smart Zoom, including the zoom in and out limits. By tweaking those two variables, I was able to get a setting that gives me more visibility further down the road by making it appear I was “higher” over the road. So, on my X50v I can see Route 29 and Interstate 66, but on the 310, I can just see the red line that is 29 at the fringe of visibility. Another problem was that the HP only showed present location in the center of the screen, not at the bottom as in the original software. That means that half of the display is showing where you’ve been, and only half shows where you are going. That design added to the limits of visibility going forward on the 310. Finally, the upper and lower display bars on the 310 take up a lot of real estate. While the information there is useful, that’s a lot of space! On the X50v version, the same data is tucked on the sides and the upper/lower regions for display are transparent, so you can see the map underneath. Tapping the map brings up some buttons to zoom in/out and to opt for full screen map versus what you see in the picture. Zooming to full screen gives more map data, but then you don’t get the other information about destination time, speed, GPS status, etc. The buttons disappear very quickly, about 1-2 seconds, after tapping the screen so you really do need to concentrate on them when you use them. The jog wheel can also be used to change the zoom, volume and to select menu items, but it was awkward to use when the unit was in the mount.

The POI database was adequate, but it had all the typical problems: not showing locations, showing closed locations, showing inaccurate locations. Entering a contact you could only add the street, not the house number, since the software only navigates to streets and doesn’t tell you which side of the street your destination may be. Because you cannot enter a house number on the 310, when it tried to navigate to a contact point that was on a street longer than one block, it navigated to one end of the road. Given some roads are short, that’s close, but given some roads are very long, that’s bad. Basically, you cannot navigate to or from a contact entered on the HP 310. I can’t say about synchronized contacts, as I didn’t synchronize any into the 310, but given the fact that it doesn’t seem to store house numbers, I suspect you cannot use contacts for navigation, only for controlling your Bluetooth phone.

Now, I do have to say that my X50v is running Andy’s 8.1 skin from PDA Mill but even so, the 310 has a lot fewer options than the base Nav’n’Go software started with (see my review of OCN6 here to see what the 310 could have been). Because you cannot add any third party software, you cannot use any of the screen themes or skins that other Nav’n’Go users can get from that PDA Mill website. What you get with the HP 310 is a so-so navigation system, bundled with a ho-hum media player and Bluetooth phone manager with a beautiful case and screen.

The HP website also has severe limitations. I thought I’d start with a route I travel often—Fairfax, Virginia to Fort Mill, SC. If you want to plan a route there, you get this screen:

HP-Website-Planner

I didn’t want to go from Washington to Charlotte, but I couldn’t select Fort Mill, SC or Fairfax, VA as destination or start point. There are limited numbers of cities you can pick, and it doesn’t accept any street names at all. The system requires that you enter the date of the trip (I have no idea why they need that) and the duration of the trip (limited to 7 days, again I have no idea why) and only if it has ALL of that information will it plan. You can download the plan to the 310 by connecting the 310 to your PC and using the HP interface software on the CDROM to transfer the map. You cannot see the route itself on the HP website, and curiously, the maps it uses to show the endpoint of the route were GoogleMaps. After the experience, I wasn’t sure what the point of the website was at all. Not very useful and strangely built.

Speaking of the CDROM, that was a waste of time. All that is on it is the software to connect to HP’s website. You have to download everything from there to connect to the 310 from the PC. What you get is a crippled version of software to sync to the 310, but all it can do is transfer contacts from Outlook and the things you get from the HP website.

The battery is 1700 mAh, but it died on me after about 3 hours of use. It then took over 20 hours to re-charge, and at the end when I disconnected it from the charger it soft reset. In fact, the unit soft resets just about any time you do anything to it—charge it, connect it to the PC, sync contacts, etc. It even insisted on soft-resetting when I tried to charge it from my laptop. I had the 310 powered off, used the USB cable to get it charging (it had gone dead on my way to work, so it needed to be charged for the trip home) and after 9 hours on the charger, it only got to 50% full. When I disconnected the cable and powered on the 310 it did a full restart, even though no data had been flowing between the laptop and the 310.

The windshield mount failed to hold to the windshield more than a few hours at a time. I cleaned the window, cleaned the suction cup and tried to get it to the flattest spot on the glass, but it would only hold about 3 hours before letting go. I eventually just left the thing in the passenger seat of the car as it was more dangerous to have it installed and falling off in busy traffic.

Final thoughts
Many years ago I was going to a formal Navy ball to which a Playboy Playmate had been invited. She was escorted by a Lieutenant who was single, along with the usual entourage from Playboy magazine. My wife, along with the other wives at the ball, was unimpressed, but the males were all fascinated by her glamour. On Monday after the ball, I talked to her escort and asked, “How was it?” His answer has stuck with me for a long time, “She was,” he said, “a pretty face but an empty head. No conversation skill, no personality, no nothing. It was a really awful time.” That kind of describes the HP 310. It’s a beautiful but empty-headed device that performs only adequately.

Pros:

  • Excellent screen (800 x 480 pixels)
  • Quick routing/re-routing
  • Typical POI database, customizable
  • Pleasant voices

Cons:

  • No third party software allowed
  • Some errors in the TeleAtlas database (at least in my immediate area)
  • Poor battery life, long charge times
  • Awkward interface with minimal options to set the software
  • Windshield mount wouldn’t hold to the glass

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Program Executive for a large international IT company. I've been using PDAs since the Casio Cassiopeia! Currently have an iPhone, HP211, Axim X51v, Axim X50v and an Axim X50. I was a navigator in A-6 Intruders in the Navy, became interested in GPS navigation a few years ago and now do reviews of GPS related products for Chris.





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  • losteaglescout
    Has anyone figured out how to modify the TTS phrases using an editor? TurboCCC has built a free one for the Garmin Nuvi's. Nothing funnier than having Susan tell you she's going to put the smack down on you if you miss another turn. Here's the link:
    http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/TTSVoiceEditor
  • infama
    HP has discontinued the ipaq 31x. A pity as the hardware is great (still the best available) and even the one weakness, the fussy on/off button has been fixed by a freeware called TouchLock that can be found at the GPSpassion forum.

    Will,

    I dont work for HP...havent since 2002, but I did have contacts there and was able to get useful info that I thought people wanted to have shared.

    The ipaq hardware will work well with iGo8, so the future upgrade path is not dead.
  • Patrick Carriere
    Here is something that can help on a few of the things that you guys do not like like the blue bar, sound, etc

    a few easy mods

    http://www.ebay-pictures.com/gps/
  • Garry Davis
    Well Jake, I have used iGo 6 and 8 and it is the best out there (obviously in my opinion!) and if HP have crippled it it is shameful! Hopefully the 314 has fixed many of the issues (pedestrian mode?) but here are plenty of negative views on this too, none of which would have applied to iGo 8. The unit is currently £99 in the UK which id less than iGo so it still seems worth buying...
  • Will Nunez
    One more question, whats the difference between FA976AA and FA976AT. Seems to be £50 difference on lamda tek website
  • Will Nunez
    Great review Jake. Even better debate (personal insults aside). Reading this debate has pushed me towards buying the 314. Whilst its difficult to read past the bias people who actually buy one have (when you fork out money you never want to admit youve wasted it!!!). Seeing your honest and frank review of what HP offered on day one vs dan, Lilly and Infama's updates of what HP have done since is very informative and a better review than many of the "point in time reviews" seen elsewhere.

    I will be parting with my money today and no doubt join the church of Ipaq GPS!!!

    Infama you seem to be on every 314 review site informing the world of HP updates, if you dont work for HP then you should at least get commission!!

    I couldnt decide between this and the S90i. This won on price point some £30 cheaper even with the TMC charger thrown in.

    One question. Will I get TMC in france? Im uk based but touring france this summer
  • infama
  • JakeRich
    Have fun. I'm done.

    I stand by the review.
  • Don Bergler
    Jack, I chose to point out that "JakeRich had never attempted to fully explore this unit". I could not know if you were being honest at the time of your review of the HP310.
    Having read your review I almost bought the Navigon, and I am glad I did not. It would have been based upon your information. As it turned out the unit worked perfectly fine from day one. I was misled. The second firmware upgrade provided icing on the cake, and it did not fix "the problems" you identified because they did not exist.
    Lilly-Anne pointed enough FACTUAL errors in your review and it would be pointless to repeat them as you refused to acknowledge them. If my reporting at work were of the same accuracy and I refused to retract my errors, I would not be working there any longer.
    I am happy with it and so are many others. You are happy for us because we are happy with this unit.
    Remember, I am pointing out the problem with your review and not with you as a person. So, do not take this as a personal attack on you.
  • JakeRich
    Don, since you chose to attack my honesty, I challenge you to point out exactly where my review was misleading or inaccurate. Not whether or not you like what I said about the 310, but where I have a FACTUAL error, some feature that was or wasn't there, some way in which it acted differently from what I said. Lily-Ann couldn't, and I doubt you can, either. Remember, though, that you have to point out differences between my review and the ORIGINAL device, since that was what I reviewed. I can't speak to the update or any changes HP made in it.

    The fact that it suits you is fine. I'm happy for you that you are happy with it. For me, it was a crippled, sad device, far short of what it could have been. Maybe with the update, it got better. I can't speak to that because I don't have it any more.
  • Don Bergler
    I managed to download the update much faster at the third try. Perhaps everybody is doing the same thing. Indeed the excellent unit is even better still.
    What I noticed with the update:
    - the font size of street names is larger and more pronounced
    - the width of the triangle representing the vehicle in 3D-mode has reduced in size from 30% to 25%.

    Issues that I have never experienced as being a problem:
    - the sound level of the voice is as good as I think it should be
    - the screen size is larger and the screen resolution is sharper than any GPS's I am interested in purchasing. I keep the top and bottom menu bars off.
    - when driving from Vancouver, BC to Whistler recently the smart zoom in and out is exactly what I wanted to see: while driving on the freeway it automatically shows me the larger map, and upon arriving at destination I am presented with a detailed view. All GPS's should behave this way
    - maps has 2/3 looking forward and 1/3 looking backward
    - excellent battery life
    - a world of third party WinCE software is waiting to be installed on this device

    The more I use this device the more I understand Lilly-Anne's frustration. JakeRich had never attempted to fully explore this unit and thus provided an inaccurate and misleading critique of the HP 310.
    I would not have purchased any other device.
  • Don Bergler
    Just curious, Infama, how long did it take you to download the latest update? I have it updating for about 30 hours now and I am still facing problems downloading. I reached as high as 53% and it kept asking if I wanted to retry. I gave up and cancelled. I tried again this morning, and I cancelled again. Maybe I should wait another week or two.
    Don
  • infama
    With the latest patch of last week (April 25), almost all outstanding issues have been resolved on the 310.

    The system is now rock stable (no more unwarranted reboots at random), the Contacts issues is now fixed, Route avoidance that was broken in the last update has been fixed again, the system runs faster, TTS has improved to the point of being quite adequate (meaning that hacks are no longer essential), the contour (relief) maps are now gargeous, and overall, only the soon to be updated painful update process and the weird on/off switch can be classed as real remaining issues.

    In the end, I think we will have to live with the on switch, but everything else has or will soon be solved.
  • infama
    Theo,

    I have no sympathy.
    I emailed you several days ago and never got a response! I also told you that I am frequently at gpsreview.net and that is where to find me, that is where many answers are.

    The sound quality HAS improved a bit with the latest update, at least for Susan TTS (US voice). Volume wise for sure. As the FW update was not so extensive for the 314, I am not sure of the extent of improvements seen there. I know that 314 users will shortly be getting a free map upgrade to 2008.10 mapsets and other FW updates, as the last one was interim. 310 users are only due a minor upgrade as the big one just happened.

    For the 314, there is no Susan or Dave TTS voice, only Simon and Kate.

    However, as I made known, I ran into a complex hack for TTS that made it now on par with Garmin/TT quality and perfectly audible. Indeed, it can now be too loud.

    Anyone interested can send me a PM at at GPSreview.net.
  • infama
    Mark,

    I learned to do this stuff from over at GPSpassion. (Customization thread)

    There are several posts that have dumbed it down. Use the "print thread" feature there to create a single HTML page and do a search for all posts by "Preytor". He did a good job of explaining how to change code in files and safely replace in data.zip an other procedures. Lutz Bendlin (sp?) also did the same.

    CECMD (found at the Ghisler site), aka Total Commander, and TCPMP are a bt more complicated, but still very manageable. There is a link to this freeware executable in the custom thread at GPSpassion.com

    There is an easy way and a hard way with cecmd. Hard way is to take the .cab file (do not expand it) and execute it by double clicking. You then get a bunch of files. Rename the 2nd largest to either CELauncher.exe or cecmd.exe. The file is called something like cecmd002.xxx. If you have a 1 or 2 gb sd card, then you can put CElauncher.exe there (of course your card mus be connected to the PC via the 310 or card reader). You can then reset the 310 with the card in and it will boot to Total commander. This wont work with a larger card, unfortunately.

    Easier and more foolproof way follows:

    First you simply take that executable file (cecmd.exe, that can be found in the custom thread) and place it in the Games folder of the HP (in RESIDENT flash, which is just another name for internal memory), using windows drag and drop. Next disconnect from the PC

    Then in the 310, you will see it show up in Games section. Just tap CECMD and it will open Total Commander and you use it like a mini windows.

    To load the player, you connect the 310 to the PC and place the entire .cab file either on the SD card or in resident flash (games folder). Disconnect (you should reboot after every major operation). Windows CE programs will NOT work in Windows XP, so you cant execute TCPMP in XP....must be done in CE. Open TC and use it to find the tcpmp.cab file. Double tap with the stylus to excecute the cab. This will cause new files to be created. Move the .exe file(s) to the Games folder of resident flash using TC drag and drop/cut and paste. TCPMP is now accessible from the games folder.

    The location of the freeware for TCPMP is also given in the custom thread.
  • Theo
    Don,
    No, the sound quality hasn't improved with the updated firmware. However, only the TTS voices are really bad to the extent that TTS on the 314 is practically unusable. My wife summed it up like this: "Kate (with TTS) is trying to say too much too quickly". I now use Kate without TTS and got used to her bad diction. Kate is no Tomtom's Jane by a long shot but at least I am able to put up with her speech impediment and her phrases that sound a bit like : "take the nest wight". At least I know what she wants me to do:)
  • Don Bergler
    Theo,
    I am assuming that you have the latest firmware. You repeated the sound problem when you originally used your GPS. You did not confirm if the latest firmware fixed the problem. Don't forget people read sites like this and get the impression that there is a sound problem, where in fact - as per my experience - there has never been one as I got mine in March 2008.
    A roundabout is common in Holland too, but not in Canada, less so in the US, but I have not been to all places there. It is therefore interesting to hear your comment about this. Perhaps others could jump in on this.
    My comment about the so far excellent HP 310 is that with the update:
    1. plugging in the power in the car does not activate the GPS. You have to turn off and on again for it to connect to the satellite. No complaints, just an observation.
    2. the triangular shaped 'car' seems larger, covering 30% of the screen width. This could be made smaller.
    3. whenever you are on a slope (British Columbia has many hills) and you reach a plateau, the background adjusts to new 'view'. Astonishing. I think this is new.
    Anybody has some more observations?
  • Mark
    infama,
    You have mentioned in this thread and I have read in other forums (gpspassion, hp support, others) that easy "hacks" were possible with the 310. Sadly, I haven't yet found a step by step procedure to say, install Total Commander and TCPMP, that is dumbed down so a GPS newbie could follow it. The other forums are full of geek-speak and assume you know something about the OS and hacking to begin with. My question, do you know if there is a "310 Hacking For Dummies" in existance? Thanks for the time.

    Mark
  • Theo
    I agree with Jake's evaluation of the Ipaq 310. I have used the European version (Ipaq 314) for about 3 weeks now and my experience has been mostly negative. I received my Ipaq 314 quite a while ago, end of Feb 2008 but returned it after a few days as faulty. The voice coming from the speaker was garbled and difficult to understand and the directions in Southampton, where I live, and know the area very well, are frequently wrong. I mean really wrong, like telling me to go in the direction opposite to where I knew I should really be going. I suspected a problem with the speaker and the GPS receiver. But now I suspect the software. The bad sound quality was shocking after my experience with Tomtom 5 where I got used to the very clear and beautifully accented voice of Jane. I guess I was expecting the same kind of standard from the HP. I was wrong. HP returned my 314 after about four weeks (!) and said they had fixed it. As far as I can tell, they just put a new version of the firmware on it. I have since used the 314 almost every day around various places in the UK and can now say a little bit more. Unlike Jake, I had no previous experience of the iGo software but I can compare the new Ipaq with Tomtom Navigator 5 which I have been using extensively in the UK and Europe for almost three years.

    The number 1 problem (a really big problem) for me is the bad waypoint accuracy on the 314. Tomtom 5 does some kind of clever interpolation and gives instructions accurate withing yards of the waypoint. The 314 instructions are dumb and can be inaccurate by anything between 5m to 30m frequently causing me to take the wrong turning.

    Another big problem is the roundabouts. Tomtom would tell me, while I am on the roundabout, when to exit. The 314 only says 'take the 3rd exit' and shuts up until I am off the roundabout. It sometimes _miscounts_ exits. Have you noticed that? I noticed that on occasions it treats a dual carriage way as _two_ exits instead of one. I developed a kind of 'roundabout-fobia' with this Ipaq. Every time I approach a roundabout I am wondering: will I manage to get the right exit this time or not? I never had that kind of feeling with the Tomtom. And then, when I eventually take the wrong exit, the 314 takes a long while before it realizes that I am on the wrong road and decides to recalculate the route. This is _very_ irritating especially as I know, having used the Tomtom, that it is possible to react to taking the wrong route within seconds.

    There are various other minor problems with this Ipaq but the bad navigation quality is the biggest one for me as it costs me time and petrol. I am not sure yet whether I want to return my updated 314. I believe that most of the problems are caused by the inferior software and hence can be fixed at some point. For now, however, the switch I have made from my obsolete Tomtom 5 to Ipaq 314 feels like a big step backwards.

    T.
  • infama
    You are welcome Don.
  • Don Bergler
    Infama,
    there is a pile of updates that I tried to download last night. It just takes forever. When I woke up this morning, it got stuck somewhere, and I had to redo.
    I have a feeling that Jake looks at this issue as a winner-loser case. Those who owns the HP 310 are the winners, and this American feels therefore that he is the loser. Jake, it does not have to be that way. We are just happy with the HP because we have taken the effort to get to know it. You do not have to "get back" at Infama.
    Thanks for updating us on this, Infama. I have yet to find out how these updates affect me.
  • infama
    W Europe will get Multinet 2007.10 and Singapore will get 2008.01
  • infama
    I am not a pusher of anything. I am merely informing!

    What, you STILL think I am employee??? LoL Even though I clearly live in Europe and my primary device is a TomTom Go 920. Sigh. C'mon Jake...I am just an enthusiast and this is my hobby for the moment. I like this this device and I also am interested in the Harmon Kardon 810 and the upcoming Navigon 8100.

    Anyway, from what I have gathered, the maps are still the TeleAtlas July 2007 map data releare (MultiNet 2007.07) However, HP has apparently optimized the mapset and maybe added auxilliary data to it. Clearly NavnGo has been pressed into service here to upgrade HP software to the level of iGo8, which will go on sale next week. The bugs were ironed out.

    As you know, vendors dont always buy all the data in a mapset (eg, speed limit data and other parameters). It is very much "a la carte" and going back to buy such data on an older map release is bound to be cheaper. As you see. West Europe will be getting a free update, as will Singapore.

    July 2007 maps are still less than 1 year old, so I am not disturbed by this.
  • JakeRich
    infama, as a pusher for HP can you clarify something? You said, "Same Nth Amer maps (July 2007 release), but improved." Which is it? Those two conditions are mutually exclusive, and sound definitely like sales speak. "New and improved," which American's know means "Same ol' stuff."
  • infama
    Here is a summary of changes from this update:

    Same Nth Amer maps (July 2007 release), but improved. POIs enhanced.

    Architecture reworked for greater stability. Crashes, freezes, etc, should be greatly reduced/eliminated. Core software made more stable.

    Carpool Lane restored.

    TTS made louder and quality (audibility) improved. Some voices revamped.

    Routing engine improved thru map optimization.

    Enhanced keyboard features and language support (eg, ability to search in Ukraninan mentioned by a poster).

    Content Manager improved, Trip plan downloading and proxy setting.

    Speed camera database for the Ozzies.

    PED mode NOT restored, probably for legal reasons.


    On/off switch logic still the same.

    Speed camera database in Australia added.

    W, Europe and Singapore will get free map updates.

    Device recovery tool coming in a month
  • infama
    The Firmware update is ready now for US and Europe!

    A bit slow given that everyone has dashed for it, though it is a bit faster in Europe.
  • infama
    Latest update is that the download should be available in 1 to 2 days.
  • Don Bergler
    No Problems. You are as excited about this unit as many of us, like me. Especially now that I have used this for about a month.
    Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
  • infama
    No,

    Technical hitch with the servers...Now its Monday. I really wanted to see what was on offer

    I am bummed too. Sorry for the false alarm.
  • Don Bergler
    Infama,
    I could not find any updates for the iPAQ 310 at the ipaq-website. Nor could my Content Manager detect anything new.
    Am I looking at the wrong place using the wrong tool?
    Regards,
    Don
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