Comments on: Intel is loosing the battle against VIA in the UMPC field http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/ Mobile News, Reviews, and Views. Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:46:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: ctitanic http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3896 ctitanic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:43:57 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3896 About SuperPI, I agree, that would not be the tool that I would have used to show what that processor is capable of. But it gives me a very good idea. ;) About SuperPI, I agree, that would not be the tool that I would have used to show what that processor is capable of. But it gives me a very good idea. ;)

]]> By: ctitanic http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3895 ctitanic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:42:12 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3895 Ed, you are being to nice to Intel, to me it's not that the UMPC sales have not been that good. Look in this site and you will find a news I posted few weeks ago about what the OEMs sales plans are for this year. We are talking about millions. The fact that I see is that Intel is not capable of delivering the right processor for UMPC. If a UMPC is not powerful enough for running Vista then what you have virtually is a MID. And that's why they are changing plans and putting more effort in to those little weak devices. In few word, Intel is not capable at this moment of making a processor small enough for UMPC to run Vista and have a decent battery life (~3 to 4 hours). And VIA is working better on this field. We had only few UMPC with VIA almost two years ago. Today we have almost half of the market running on VIA. That's another fact. Ed, you are being to nice to Intel, to me it’s not that the UMPC sales have not been that good. Look in this site and you will find a news I posted few weeks ago about what the OEMs sales plans are for this year. We are talking about millions. The fact that I see is that Intel is not capable of delivering the right processor for UMPC. If a UMPC is not powerful enough for running Vista then what you have virtually is a MID. And that’s why they are changing plans and putting more effort in to those little weak devices.

In few word, Intel is not capable at this moment of making a processor small enough for UMPC to run Vista and have a decent battery life (~3 to 4 hours). And VIA is working better on this field. We had only few UMPC with VIA almost two years ago. Today we have almost half of the market running on VIA. That’s another fact.

]]> By: Ed Hardy http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3893 Ed Hardy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:20:01 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3893 Chaz over at NotebookReview.com made a good point. SuperPi is not multithreaded and does not allow the Silverthorne/Atom chip to reach its full potential, as it is HyperThreaded. So this test isn't exactly fair. ————- Ed Hardy http://www.Brighthand.com Chaz over at NotebookReview.com made a good point. SuperPi is not multithreaded and does not allow the Silverthorne/Atom chip to reach its full potential, as it is HyperThreaded. So this test isn’t exactly fair.

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Ed Hardy
http://www.Brighthand.com

]]> By: Ed Hardy http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3892 Ed Hardy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:17:29 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3892 > Ed, if you are not able to run freely Vista in a UMPC then > you are saying goodbye to Microsoft. ;) And that’s what > Intel is virtually doing. I wouldn't say Intel is saying goodbye to Microsoft, but with the very lack-luster sales of the UMPC category of devices, Intel is embracing Linux for low-cost mobile devices. And this isn't me reading between the lines; Intel has flat out said that devices running Atom should use Linux rather than Windows. Maybe this sounds like heresy to the Microsoft faithful, but the success of the Eee PC shows that devices that look like laptops don't need to run Windows to be successful. ————- Ed Hardy http://www.Brighthand.com > Ed, if you are not able to run freely Vista in a UMPC then
> you are saying goodbye to Microsoft. ;) And that’s what
> Intel is virtually doing.

I wouldn’t say Intel is saying goodbye to Microsoft, but with the very lack-luster sales of the UMPC category of devices, Intel is embracing Linux for low-cost mobile devices. And this isn’t me reading between the lines; Intel has flat out said that devices running Atom should use Linux rather than Windows.

Maybe this sounds like heresy to the Microsoft faithful, but the success of the Eee PC shows that devices that look like laptops don’t need to run Windows to be successful.

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Ed Hardy
http://www.Brighthand.com

]]> By: ctitanic http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3890 ctitanic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:43:18 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3890 Ed, if you are not able to run freely Vista in a UMPC then you are saying goodbye to Microsoft. ;) And that's what Intel is virtually doing. Ed, if you are not able to run freely Vista in a UMPC then you are saying goodbye to Microsoft. ;) And that’s what Intel is virtually doing.

]]> By: ctitanic http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3889 ctitanic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:41:06 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3889 In a few words summarizing my post. I do see a progress on VIA from the point of view of UMPCs that I do not see it on Intel. In a few words summarizing my post. I do see a progress on VIA from the point of view of UMPCs that I do not see it on Intel.

]]> By: ctitanic http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3888 ctitanic Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:36:28 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3888 uday, I said that because I do not see any real progress from Intel side but I do see a progress on VIA's. About the battery figures I'm commenting what I read from UMPCPortal in their brief test of one of those. 3,5 hours is what the Q1 with VIA processor was getting a long time ago. So I'm not impressed at all. uday, I said that because I do not see any real progress from Intel side but I do see a progress on VIA’s.

About the battery figures I’m commenting what I read from UMPCPortal in their brief test of one of those. 3,5 hours is what the Q1 with VIA processor was getting a long time ago. So I’m not impressed at all.

]]> By: Ed Hardy http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3882 Ed Hardy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:06:45 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3882 I don't think Intel is trying for raw processor speed in the Atom. Rather, it's going for small size and low power requirements. I think these two are most important in a mobile device. Not that I'm completely defending Intel. I've been impressed with VIA's mobile processors and the UMPCs and Netbooks I've seen based on them. ------------- Ed Hardy www.Brighthand.com I don’t think Intel is trying for raw processor speed in the Atom. Rather, it’s going for small size and low power requirements. I think these two are most important in a mobile device.

Not that I’m completely defending Intel. I’ve been impressed with VIA’s mobile processors and the UMPCs and Netbooks I’ve seen based on them.

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Ed Hardy
http://www.Brighthand.com

]]> By: uday http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/comment-page-1/#comment-3880 uday Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:43:14 +0000 http://mobilitysite.com/2008/03/intel-is-loosing-the-battle-against-via-in-the-umpc-field/#comment-3880 If VIA is not out performing any Intel processors, why do you say Intel is loosing the battle against VIA in the UMPC field? Where did you get Silverthorne battery test figures?? That is most interesting. If VIA is not out performing any Intel processors, why do you say Intel is loosing the battle against VIA in the UMPC field?

Where did you get Silverthorne battery test figures?? That is most interesting.

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