But my Excalibur is fantastic doing calls.

The only good point which remains for my iPhone is Multimedia. Nothing more. And that’s the main thing I use it for. As an iPod Touch with included speaker ;-)

The cost of ownership is a drag on my WM device. So much required software. I hard-reset approximately every six months because something gets corrupted and the phone slows to a crawl. Each rebuild takes approximately 4 hours every 6 months. I keep a list of 50 items to get my phone back to it’s previous condition. It’s terrible.

And then there are the clicks required to do anything. Why can’t I listen to music on this device? (Anyone who does and receives a phone call during the session becomes deaf.) Why does the keypad ‘disappear’ when I make phone calls? What about the times it just decides to wake up in my pocket and drain the battery that much faster?

I just something to manage my contacts and calendar, give me email and the web. If I need to write an essay, I am not going to do it on my phone. I do not need to remote control my television and I do not need to beam contacts. (Was there ever a more smug and worthless example as this?)

In closing, I look forward to getting rid of my WM device and getting something more reliable with features I use. And I also will be sending Steve Balmer my phone with a letter explaining why the product stinks and he lost my business. The chairman of Sprint will be cc’d on my letter on how this device poisoned my relationship with Sprint.

I am not a MSFT hater or an Apple-lover – just terribly dissatisfied and disappointed with my WM device. If I pay this much for a phone and data services, I expect it to be GOOD. The PPC-6700 has not lived up to the money paid.

I was a Palm guy for 5 years, and, concurrently, a WinMo guy for 2. I loved my Palm devices. I went through 5 PDAs and 2 Palm-based Treos since 2002. I loved my WinMo devices even more — my Axim X50v with WinMo6 was my pride and joy, most powerful beast in the palm of your hands. I loved it, seriously. The final Treo I owned, the 750, was similarly great, though no match for the Ax in terms of PDA power.

They’re all gone, now, replaced by the iPhone. Why?

Palm: Ceased being modern in 2003. Saw no useful changes since 2004. The last great Palm PDA was the Zire72. The T|5 and T|X introduced NVFS which, while great at protecting data when the battery ran out (which I never let happen), made it sluggish and completely invalidated the use of UDMH. The last great Palm-based Treo was the 650. The 680’s battery sucked hard and it was buggy.

WinMo: Loved it, great system, but twitchy at times, and prone to problems, progressive sluggishness, and occasional crashes. And for cryin’ out loud, in all the WinMo devices I used, from WinMo 2003 to 6, NONE of them could reliably trigger an alarm. A freakin’ alarm, which should be dead simple! What was up with that?

iPhone: Impossibly slick UI. (Yeah, so I like shiny things.) Intuitive. Fast. Easy to access everything. Powerful. Killer mobile 3D graphics chip (PowerVR MBX). Best mobile web browsing experience evar. (Flash would be nice, but Apple and Adobe don’t see eye-to-eye.) Lots of memory. (128mb main memory, 112mb usable) Not much in the way of apps out of the box, but jailbreaking opens up worlds of possibilities with tons of great apps and games, and the SDK is seriously going to turn mobile gaming on its ear, to say nothing of the tons of great apps that will turn up — and this is all over and above hundreds upon hundreds of apps you can already get on the jailbreak scene, with more pouring in all the time. Just check my blog, you’ll see everything you need to know. And I’m not talking about web apps here. Those are generally crap and I don’t write about those.

Yes, it does have its shortcomings — no A2DP, no Flash (yet; Adobe’s pushing for it), no external storage (not that it’s really needed), no full-fledged word processors or spreadsheet apps (again, yet), no 3G (it’s coming) and a number of other things, but most of its failings can be remedied with software, and some of those that are hardware complaints are being addressed also.

I’m no Apple fanboy — I judge everything on its merits and am perfectly capable of weighing the pros and cons of any device whether I own it or not, but really, if you’re going to pan the iPhone, at least have some empirical, evidentiary basis on which to do so, not just some fifteen minute romp through a stock device. To do so merely belies your desire to justify a bias against the iPhone that no thin veneer of “experience” with the “other guys” can possibly hope to hide.

Most of WM phone has decent hardware and will handle iPhone-Like interface or even 3D Games with pixel shader, but not many developer can “think out of the [list, text, combo]boxes”

Trust me, most of the iphone app will look similar to WM – if Apple provides textbox, combobox, listbox….

I’m waiting to see whether Silverlight/WPF technology will surface on WM device – it will be really interesting to see developer around the world creating movie-like interface on WM6 :D

That’s the true power of WM – you can extend it endlessly.

I’ve been longtime Windows user, but recently switched over to Mac and I have to say, everything in Mac/Apple world is smooth – it just works. Can’t say the same about the Windows Vista/Windows Mobile – things get sluggish after a while, and they still flat out crash for no apparent reason!

Haven’t played at length with an iPhone (but am planning to get one once it’s released in Oz land), yes Windows Mobile has more features, but what it lacks is intuitiveness and “grace/smoothness” in every day use. I mean, I have the latest HTC Windows Mobile 6 Pro – and man, a hard reset is still required every 2-3 days – as it eventually just locks up! And no, Im not running 6 applications simultaneously.

Yeah, great features – too bad it doesn’t operate properly and ends up frustrating you. Since coming over to the Mac, I can really understand why people love it – and the same reaction for the iPhone – they (Apple) have just got it right – with the UI and operation..

Just like the “I’m a PC” and “I’m a Mac” commercials. The WM phone is the professional work hourse while the iPhone is the laid back party goer.

(BTW, I own a WM phone.)

Both have their strong and weak points…..some of which were touched upon, others of which were exaggerated upon.

My favorite day to day device is the iPhone. I gave into purchasing another WinMob device so that I can take it where I’d rather not take my iPhone as it’s an attention grabber. (I’m in Canada and I have yet to meet another person who has one)

I’m neither an Apple-Fanboy (I own an iPhone and a 5g iPod) or a Windows-Fanboy. Not having MMS or cut/past on the iPhone really doesn’t bother me….I’d use them if they were there, but I’m also not going to cry like a little girl since they aren’t.

Browsing on the iPhone can not be beat. Period.

As for typing, I’ve had no problems adjusting to a virtual keyboard. As someone else has mentioned, it’s a pretty damn smart keyboard too as most of the time it figures out what you are typing and auto-corrects any errors.

A lot of the features the OP was whining that the iPhone doesn’t have, I personally don’t use or care about, and I’m sure I’m part of a large population who feel the same. Granted, other people will care about those features, but then they should buy something that has those features to keep them happy.

I get irritated by seeing numerous people whine and moan that Apple hasn’t added additional features such as MMS or Cut/Paste. I bought my iPhone because of what it can do……not what I hoped it would do in the future. Sadly, a lot of people bought one with the hopes it would have additional featured added later……Sorry.

Of course he is biased (being a self-professed “Windows Mobile guy”). But his assessments seem to me to be fair and honest appraisals of the “other guys” device.

I do not see you making the same admission that you are a mac-boy, or talking about the pro’s and con’s of the “other guy” opposite you. Food for though…

the blackberry became popular when first released because it was simple to use for its users to do things that its users valued. execs at businesses helped get their it departments to support it. as i mentioned earlier in this thread, the iphone getting activesync/exchange support will help convert blackberry-only companies to support winmo.

i know there are tons of very smart folks at microsoft. i hope some of the senior managers they work for give them a shot to show the world that microsoft knows how to inspire regular consumers of mobile devices as much as it has clearly inspired so many way-advanced users for the last 5 years..

I wanted to have Bluetooth, WiFi Syncing, 3G and GPS. Out of all these 3G is a must for next generation of the phone.

I feel that it all depends on what each individual prefer to have on their phone. WM has to work on improving the hardware (i know it is not in Microsoft’s hands) and the UI (needs major improvement). And don’t forget ROM updates/Patches. you need to keep the existing customer satisfied first. That is the biggest mantra for success.