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Bloat vs. Clean ROM installs REDUX.

Posted by Kip Granson on August 29, 2008 – 8:46 am  Share
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I’ve been asked a number of questions about the things missing in the “Clean” ROM install, and I figured I have a few minutes right now, so I will write up a quick post.

For those of you new to the discussion, I made a post talking documenting some of the differences between the clean and bloat rom installs of the latest Tilt firmware upgrade, you can read it HERE.

First, the most frequent question I have been asked or problem that was reported was people having problems actually interrupting the ATT software install, so I figured I would first detail this, step by step.

  1. Flash the ROM (just follow the instructions on the DL page, it’s easy)
  2. Align the screen
  3. Go through the tutorial on copy/paste or skip it.
  4. Create a password or skip it.
  5. This is where it’s tricky… the INSTANT the home screen shows up, you MUST SOFT RESET THE DEVICE before the countdown starts. If the countdown has started, you’re too late, it must happen BEFORE the countdown. This is different then previous ROMS.

If you miss the chance, just soft reset before the countdown finishes, the device will come back up and start all over. you get another chance to get it right.

For those of you that don’t know what a “soft reset” is, that’s when you take the stylus and jam it in the little hole next to the USB connector on the bottom end of the device.. I’ll leave you on your own to make jokes about cramming styluses into holes, you know who you are… Pervs.

Anyway, another question, which I think is a pretty good one is… Do I lose things like threaded SMS and the voice commander software? The short answer is, No, you don’t lose those features. Basically, you will get everything that is listed on the HTC site for the ROM update, those are integrated into the ROM and are already installed into the ROM upgrade. Think of it this way, when doing the install, the default ROM install is like a clean install of XP, you’re getting the default apps that come with it (in XP’s case, things like notepad, paint, etc.), the ‘bloat’ install is like what you would get when you buy your computer from Dell or HP.. a bunch of crap that, although some might be useful, most basically just add confusion and bloat. Before I get called out, Yes, I know that that this isn’t an exact parallel, the Voice program and HTC home screen are not part of the default (from Microsoft) WinMo install (I really hope that didn’t add more confusion to the mix).

I haven’t had a lot of time to play and search, but I’m trying to find where the actual programs that the installer calls are located on the ROM, anyone have a clue on that?

Hope you find this useful, I know I didn’t address all your questions, but I thought maybe I could at least get this out there. This post is long enough as is. As you can tell, I’m not one that’s typically short winded.

As always, please let me know what you think and don’t hesitate to post replies. And again, thanks for reading!

Kip

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  • Using the advanced feature of Sprite backup,I found and backed up my Explorer favorites only.Restore despite warning after hard reset or Rom flash.That soft reset needs to be fast to beat the bloat.Sofar not happy with 6.1 :-(
  • Vic
    Ok, upgraded to WM6.1 before I found this post. Is there any way to remove the "Bloat" other than reinstalling? If I have to reinstall, how do I back up my current WM6.1 without backing up the Bloat as well.

    Thanks
  • Mr Glenn
    Just installed the WM6.1 upgrade on Saturday and the install went fine. I'm thinking of reinstalling it to get rid of all the bloat software and links because most of it is stuff I will never use.

    I found what seems to be all of the install CAB's in the Windows directory...16 in all. Just copy the CAB files to your Windows PC. Then you can open the individual CAB's in WinZip and open the _setup.xml file...this file will show you what the CAB is installing.

    I haven't found the Abode Reader, but I'm still looking.

    Glenn
  • George McKinnis
    Yes I have. I've done it twice now. My cousin finally attempted is ROM flash last night on his TILT and had the exact same problem I'm having. I still do want to "Beat the Bloat" however I'm not having any luck with it. What little bit of memory I'll gain by losing the bloat, isn't as great of a concern to me due to the fact I'm using an 8gig micro SD. But it would be nice not having that extra junk on it I'll most likely never use.
  • Kip Granson
    @George McKinnis

    I'm sorry, I don't really know what the problem might be. Have you considered flashing the rom and letting it finish, the reflashing again? maybe that will help.

    kip
  • George McKinnis
    Kip,

    Your article was an excellent post on explaining the steps in flashing the ROM as were numerous others. If you had a chance to view my questions in the forum under Support/New ROM Install (F.A.S.T. Unit 52), my comment was every time I get to the point to soft reset it always did a hard reset. Any ideas on why that is? And yes I did it exactly the way you described it.

    George McKinnis
    F.A.S.T. Unit 52
  • Dan
    Thanks for the post. I'm going to run the clean rom, but I want one or two of the bloat programs which are nice like Adobe Reader LE.
    If anyone has an idea of how to install these individually, please let me know. As Kip said, there should be a cab somewhere on the ROM to install manually.
    Thanks!
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