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	<title>Comments on: Alpha 400 &#8211; A netbook?</title>
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		<title>By: feydrautha</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-15281</link>
		<dc:creator>feydrautha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this man a netbook is an appliance with a intel processor that runs windows and also connets to internet. May have a 9 inch screen. This means that he thinks to the the regular ATM that displays BSOD.   Alpha 400 can run a webserver that can hold 500 clients maybe better. This means that is more like a sever with a core 2 dou processor on wich you installed Windoz and some cheese asp.net application. Octane 2 also had a 400Mhz Mips and 256 Mb ram and Irix this mean Alpha 400 is simmilar with a graphics station. So .. we probably have a texan redneck and yuppi wanna be with a too low IQ to understand anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this man a netbook is an appliance with a intel processor that runs windows and also connets to internet. May have a 9 inch screen. This means that he thinks to the the regular ATM that displays BSOD.   Alpha 400 can run a webserver that can hold 500 clients maybe better. This means that is more like a sever with a core 2 dou processor on wich you installed Windoz and some cheese asp.net application. Octane 2 also had a 400Mhz Mips and 256 Mb ram and Irix this mean Alpha 400 is simmilar with a graphics station. So .. we probably have a texan redneck and yuppi wanna be with a too low IQ to understand anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Leven2e</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-13648</link>
		<dc:creator>Leven2e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can install compiled programs on it,listen to radio stations,work with pdf/excel/word files,watch youtube,paly games,paint etc. It has also some 1-4gb nand flash storage,.,which is expamndable by using SD/SDHC cards.Just a bit slow,having about 300mhz processor.It is a netbook.You can download and save files,use pidgin cross platform messenger etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can install compiled programs on it,listen to radio stations,work with pdf/excel/word files,watch youtube,paly games,paint etc. It has also some 1-4gb nand flash storage,.,which is expamndable by using SD/SDHC cards.Just a bit slow,having about 300mhz processor.It is a netbook.You can download and save files,use pidgin cross platform messenger etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-12968</link>
		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you check what’s the primary use according to Geeks web site?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;d expect both a netbook and an MID to have primary use as an Internet device (it&#039;s in their names ;)).  However, a netbook should have more uses, which the Alpha 400 does.

In fact, the description refers to it as an &quot;ultralite notebook&quot; about 5 times (including the title) and a &quot;netbook&quot; only 3 times (and one of those said &quot;netbook form factor&quot;).

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, I doubt that you will find anything compiled for MIPS. ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
True, but the issue isn&#039;t how many third-party applications exist, but whether the device supports more than just Internet access (in other words, does it include additional capabilities).

Look at it another way.  Suppose the device had an ARM compatible processor and ran Windows Mobile.  It wouldn&#039;t be x86 compatible and wouldn&#039;t have a desktop OS, but would have a large number of applications available.  Would that device be a Netbook?  I think so.

But don&#039;t believe me.  Read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia Netbook article&lt;/a&gt;.  Nowhere does it say the device needs a desktop OS or an x86 processor.  In fact, Psion introduced the term in 1999; Intel reintroduced it after pulling out of the OLPC group (which may be why you think an x86 compatible processor is required).

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did you check what’s the primary use according to Geeks web site?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d expect both a netbook and an MID to have primary use as an Internet device (it&#8217;s in their names ;)).  However, a netbook should have more uses, which the Alpha 400 does.</p>
<p>In fact, the description refers to it as an &#8220;ultralite notebook&#8221; about 5 times (including the title) and a &#8220;netbook&#8221; only 3 times (and one of those said &#8220;netbook form factor&#8221;).</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, I doubt that you will find anything compiled for MIPS. ;)</p></blockquote>
<p>True, but the issue isn&#8217;t how many third-party applications exist, but whether the device supports more than just Internet access (in other words, does it include additional capabilities).</p>
<p>Look at it another way.  Suppose the device had an ARM compatible processor and ran Windows Mobile.  It wouldn&#8217;t be x86 compatible and wouldn&#8217;t have a desktop OS, but would have a large number of applications available.  Would that device be a Netbook?  I think so.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t believe me.  Read the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia Netbook article</a>.  Nowhere does it say the device needs a desktop OS or an x86 processor.  In fact, Psion introduced the term in 1999; Intel reintroduced it after pulling out of the OLPC group (which may be why you think an x86 compatible processor is required).</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-12966</link>
		<dc:creator>ctitanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I doubt that you will find anything compiled for MIPS. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I doubt that you will find anything compiled for MIPS. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-12965</link>
		<dc:creator>ctitanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you check what&#039;s the primary use according to  Geeks  web site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you check what&#8217;s the primary use according to  Geeks  web site?</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;so, to you this is closer to a netbook than to a MID. And what’s a MID in your opinion?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s a tougher question.  There&#039;s a general and a specific answer.

The general answer is &quot;A Mobile Internet Device (MID) is anything that allows accessing the Internet while mobile.&quot;  That could be anything from a laptop to phone.  By that definition, the Alpha 400 is also a MID.

The more specific answer, if you want to make it a niche term, is &quot;Anything fairly small whose primary function is providing wireless Internet access.&quot;  That means it probably wouldn&#039;t be a general purpose computer (you couldn&#039;t load your own programs, with the possible exception of browser plug-ins).  (I don&#039;t know if the Alpha 400 allows installing your own programs, but it seems to do a lot more than just provide Internet access.)

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so, to you this is closer to a netbook than to a MID. And what’s a MID in your opinion?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a tougher question.  There&#8217;s a general and a specific answer.</p>
<p>The general answer is &#8220;A Mobile Internet Device (MID) is anything that allows accessing the Internet while mobile.&#8221;  That could be anything from a laptop to phone.  By that definition, the Alpha 400 is also a MID.</p>
<p>The more specific answer, if you want to make it a niche term, is &#8220;Anything fairly small whose primary function is providing wireless Internet access.&#8221;  That means it probably wouldn&#8217;t be a general purpose computer (you couldn&#8217;t load your own programs, with the possible exception of browser plug-ins).  (I don&#8217;t know if the Alpha 400 allows installing your own programs, but it seems to do a lot more than just provide Internet access.)</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Ctitanic</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-12962</link>
		<dc:creator>Ctitanic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, to you this is closer to a netbook than to a MID. And what&#039;s a MID in your opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, to you this is closer to a netbook than to a MID. And what&#8217;s a MID in your opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2008/12/alpha-400-a-netbook/comment-page-1/#comment-12961</link>
		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To me, this is just a MID. A Netbook uses a full Desktop Operating System and this is not the case. A MIPS processor has a completely different architecture. For those who are not familiar, a program compiled for a MIPS processor does not work in any x86 computer and the same in the other way around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
First, can you cite a definition that requires a Netbook to have a desktop OS?

Second, the ad for that says it uses Linux.  Isn&#039;t Linux a full desktop OS?  Saying what the processor is doesn&#039;t really say anything about the OS.  Windows NT used to run on the DEC Alpha processor, which wasn&#039;t compatible with x86 (as far as I know), but Windows NT on the Alpha was still a full desktop OS.

Furthermore, programs compiled for Windows won&#039;t run directly on Linux even if the processor is x86 compatible, so I can&#039;t really see that as part of the definition.

To me, a Netbook (compared to a notebook) has to be smaller and cheaper.  A Netbook also has to provide wireless network connectivity, have a general purpose OS (with a Web browser) and have a notebook form factor.

I think the Alpha 400 meets that definition.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To me, this is just a MID. A Netbook uses a full Desktop Operating System and this is not the case. A MIPS processor has a completely different architecture. For those who are not familiar, a program compiled for a MIPS processor does not work in any x86 computer and the same in the other way around.</p></blockquote>
<p>First, can you cite a definition that requires a Netbook to have a desktop OS?</p>
<p>Second, the ad for that says it uses Linux.  Isn&#8217;t Linux a full desktop OS?  Saying what the processor is doesn&#8217;t really say anything about the OS.  Windows NT used to run on the DEC Alpha processor, which wasn&#8217;t compatible with x86 (as far as I know), but Windows NT on the Alpha was still a full desktop OS.</p>
<p>Furthermore, programs compiled for Windows won&#8217;t run directly on Linux even if the processor is x86 compatible, so I can&#8217;t really see that as part of the definition.</p>
<p>To me, a Netbook (compared to a notebook) has to be smaller and cheaper.  A Netbook also has to provide wireless network connectivity, have a general purpose OS (with a Web browser) and have a notebook form factor.</p>
<p>I think the Alpha 400 meets that definition.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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