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		<title>By: coffee</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15578</link>
		<dc:creator>coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kindle is actually quite classy; it&#039;s like a convergence of old school and new school technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kindle is actually quite classy; it&#8217;s like a convergence of old school and new school technology</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15370</link>
		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doogald:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not going to pay $359 for a dedicated electronic device that reads e-books, that could be broken with a four foot drop to a concrete floor, or perhaps a drop in a puddle, or get smashed if my bag that carries it gets crunched.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Understood, but people pay that much for tablet PCs, UMPCs, WinMo touch screen phones, etc. which have the same vulnerabilities.

Plus, it&#039;s far worse to lose your phone or PC than your books.  ;)

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d have a hard time comparing this with a netbook, by the way. Can I do spreadsheets on this? No. Can I get e-mail on this? Maybe awkwardly. Can I browse the web in a productive way? Not really. Word processing? No. Manage my iTunes content? No.

You get the idea. Just because they cost the same, it doesn’t mean that the Kindle could replace a Netbook. Segways and Vespa Scooters cost about the same, but I think I’d get a lot more out of a Vespa, frankly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Come on, I specifically said the Kindle wasn&#039;t as flexible as a netbook (I&#039;m not an idiot).  I was just using two techie devices that had comparable price points and shared some of the same attributes to point out why the Kindle might cost so much; the lack of flexibility in the Kindle might be made up for by the cost of the data plan.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And Just because a data plan would cost a certain amount per month, if I am not planning to buy one, then it’s ridiculous to say that the data plan pays for the device over 18 months. It only does if I was planning to buy a cellular data modem. Well, I’m not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You missed the point.  Amazon could probably charge less for the hardware, then charge you a $10-$20 per month fee for book access.  They don&#039;t.

If you remember the early days of DVRs, ReplayTV and Tivo were the two big names.  Replay cost more initially (by $200+) but you got a lifetime subscription; Tivo cost less, but you had to pay a monthly charge.  (That was one reason that I got the Replay.)

Which revenue model would you prefer the Kindle to use?

Also, does the Kindle have another way to get books on it?  If not, if you want a Kindle, you have to get the data plan.  Obviously if you don&#039;t want a Kindle, it&#039;s moot, but if you do, then data plan savings could pay for the device.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a ridiculous point at all.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If this makes sense for you, that’s great. I’m guessing, though, that this will be successful - it is a cool device- but not iPod successful, unless at some point they bring the price down.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I didn&#039;t say that it made sense for me.  I unfortunately don&#039;t have enough time for reading books to justify this (although if it displays RSS feeds well, that would be a plus, but I can get those on my Q9m already).

I just don&#039;t think the price is &lt;b&gt;way&lt;/b&gt; out of line like you do.  Expensive, yes, but that tends to be true of any new electronic devices, especially niche ones.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doogald:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am not going to pay $359 for a dedicated electronic device that reads e-books, that could be broken with a four foot drop to a concrete floor, or perhaps a drop in a puddle, or get smashed if my bag that carries it gets crunched.</p></blockquote>
<p>Understood, but people pay that much for tablet PCs, UMPCs, WinMo touch screen phones, etc. which have the same vulnerabilities.</p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s far worse to lose your phone or PC than your books.  ;)</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d have a hard time comparing this with a netbook, by the way. Can I do spreadsheets on this? No. Can I get e-mail on this? Maybe awkwardly. Can I browse the web in a productive way? Not really. Word processing? No. Manage my iTunes content? No.</p>
<p>You get the idea. Just because they cost the same, it doesn’t mean that the Kindle could replace a Netbook. Segways and Vespa Scooters cost about the same, but I think I’d get a lot more out of a Vespa, frankly.</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on, I specifically said the Kindle wasn&#8217;t as flexible as a netbook (I&#8217;m not an idiot).  I was just using two techie devices that had comparable price points and shared some of the same attributes to point out why the Kindle might cost so much; the lack of flexibility in the Kindle might be made up for by the cost of the data plan.</p>
<blockquote><p>And Just because a data plan would cost a certain amount per month, if I am not planning to buy one, then it’s ridiculous to say that the data plan pays for the device over 18 months. It only does if I was planning to buy a cellular data modem. Well, I’m not.</p></blockquote>
<p>You missed the point.  Amazon could probably charge less for the hardware, then charge you a $10-$20 per month fee for book access.  They don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you remember the early days of DVRs, ReplayTV and Tivo were the two big names.  Replay cost more initially (by $200+) but you got a lifetime subscription; Tivo cost less, but you had to pay a monthly charge.  (That was one reason that I got the Replay.)</p>
<p>Which revenue model would you prefer the Kindle to use?</p>
<p>Also, does the Kindle have another way to get books on it?  If not, if you want a Kindle, you have to get the data plan.  Obviously if you don&#8217;t want a Kindle, it&#8217;s moot, but if you do, then data plan savings could pay for the device.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a ridiculous point at all.</p>
<blockquote><p>If this makes sense for you, that’s great. I’m guessing, though, that this will be successful &#8211; it is a cool device- but not iPod successful, unless at some point they bring the price down.</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that it made sense for me.  I unfortunately don&#8217;t have enough time for reading books to justify this (although if it displays RSS feeds well, that would be a plus, but I can get those on my Q9m already).</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think the price is <b>way</b> out of line like you do.  Expensive, yes, but that tends to be true of any new electronic devices, especially niche ones.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: doogald</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15344</link>
		<dc:creator>doogald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to pay $359 for a dedicated electronic device that reads e-books, that could be broken with a four foot drop to a concrete floor, or perhaps a drop in a puddle, or get smashed if my bag that carries it gets crunched. I&#039;m really not all that eager to buy a dedicated e-book reader - regular books work just fine, as far as I am concerned (well, better, actually) - but if I was, I could see paying maybe $200, maybe $225 at the most. This is too expensive.

I do think that it&#039;s great that you can get books delivered straight to the device. That&#039;s really very cool. It&#039;s just not enough.

I&#039;d have a hard time comparing this with a netbook, by the way. Can I do spreadsheets on this? No. Can I get e-mail on this? Maybe awkwardly. Can I browse the web in a productive way? Not really. Word processing? No. Manage my iTunes content? No.

You get the idea. Just because they cost the same, it doesn&#039;t mean that the Kindle could replace a Netbook. Segways and Vespa Scooters cost about the same, but I think I&#039;d get a lot more out of a Vespa, frankly.

And Just because a data plan would cost a certain amount per month, if I am not planning to buy one, then it&#039;s ridiculous to say that the data plan pays for the device over 18 months. It only does if I was planning to buy a cellular data modem. Well, I&#039;m not.

If this makes sense for you, that&#039;s great. I&#039;m guessing, though, that this will be successful - it is a cool device- but not iPod successful, unless at some point they bring the price down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to pay $359 for a dedicated electronic device that reads e-books, that could be broken with a four foot drop to a concrete floor, or perhaps a drop in a puddle, or get smashed if my bag that carries it gets crunched. I&#8217;m really not all that eager to buy a dedicated e-book reader &#8211; regular books work just fine, as far as I am concerned (well, better, actually) &#8211; but if I was, I could see paying maybe $200, maybe $225 at the most. This is too expensive.</p>
<p>I do think that it&#8217;s great that you can get books delivered straight to the device. That&#8217;s really very cool. It&#8217;s just not enough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have a hard time comparing this with a netbook, by the way. Can I do spreadsheets on this? No. Can I get e-mail on this? Maybe awkwardly. Can I browse the web in a productive way? Not really. Word processing? No. Manage my iTunes content? No.</p>
<p>You get the idea. Just because they cost the same, it doesn&#8217;t mean that the Kindle could replace a Netbook. Segways and Vespa Scooters cost about the same, but I think I&#8217;d get a lot more out of a Vespa, frankly.</p>
<p>And Just because a data plan would cost a certain amount per month, if I am not planning to buy one, then it&#8217;s ridiculous to say that the data plan pays for the device over 18 months. It only does if I was planning to buy a cellular data modem. Well, I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>If this makes sense for you, that&#8217;s great. I&#8217;m guessing, though, that this will be successful &#8211; it is a cool device- but not iPod successful, unless at some point they bring the price down.</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15343</link>
		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo alert!  The last paragraph should start &quot;If eBooks were priced cheaper....&quot;

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo alert!  The last paragraph should start &#8220;If eBooks were priced cheaper&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Pony99CA</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15342</link>
		<dc:creator>Pony99CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doogald:

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s way too expensive.  It&#039;s priced about the same as some netbooks &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; includes a cellular data plan for free (which would probably cost $20-$40 per month on a cell phone).  It&#039;s not as flexible as netbooks, obviously, but the data plan alone pays for the device in a maximum of 18 months.

If books were eBooks were priced cheaper than paper books, maybe you could further justify the price if you&#039;re a voracious reader.  Unfortunately, I don&#039;t believe that eBooks do cost less in general.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doogald:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s way too expensive.  It&#8217;s priced about the same as some netbooks <b>and</b> includes a cellular data plan for free (which would probably cost $20-$40 per month on a cell phone).  It&#8217;s not as flexible as netbooks, obviously, but the data plan alone pays for the device in a maximum of 18 months.</p>
<p>If books were eBooks were priced cheaper than paper books, maybe you could further justify the price if you&#8217;re a voracious reader.  Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t believe that eBooks do cost less in general.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: doogald</title>
		<link>http://www.mobilitysite.com/2009/02/amazon-kindle-2-announced/comment-page-1/#comment-15341</link>
		<dc:creator>doogald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It still costs too much. Way too much.</description>
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