Breaking the Green Dam

Posted by Zealot on Jul 05, 2009

closeThis post was published 3 years 10 months 12 days ago which may make its actuality or expire date not be valid anymore. This site is not responsible for any misunderstanding.

GreenDamGirl Politics are usually something I try to avoid on the internet. Lord knows we all have enough reasons for sleepless nights and high blood pressure (parenting for instance) without adding the endless partisan demonizing that goes on over the internet due to politics.

However, there are some things that go beyond politics and enter the realm of ethics and basic human rights. As I am sure all of you know, the current government of China decided that the agreement by such former champions of free speech as Google and Yahoo to censor information going into China and to turn over the details of those bloggers who the government branded as seditious was not enough. Information was still getting through, and coming out, through a thousand little blogs and independent web sites, to say nothing of twitter and other social networking sites.

Therefore, the Chinese government decreed that any PC sold in China must have their Green Dam censorship software built in to block any content that the Chinese government felt their citizens should not see. Of course they explain that this is to block pornography, which some people see as a reasonable thing to do. Personally, to me that is an inexcusable example of censorship and big-brother paternalism, but no matter. Once that software is provided with any PC sold in China you are already halfway down the slippery slope. Once the hubbub dies down, the Chinese Government will be able to use the same software to block any information they feel is too disgusting for people to see, such as free and open debate of their government’s policies.

Thankfully a good number of people saw things as I do and there was far more of an outcry then the Chinese Government had been expecting (did they learn NOTHING from the Olympics?) and they opted to postpone enforcing the requirement.

End of the matter, hurrah for democracy?

Not yet.

For one thing, the Chinese Government has stated they will still quietly go ahead with the plan, but they will just wait until the eye of the world is drawn to the next sensation. Beyond they, they don’t even need to enforce it. It seems that most PC makers, fully aware of the vast profits to be made by appeasing the Chinese bureaucrats, are shipping PCs with the Green Dam software ANYWAY.

The AP is reporting the following…

Taiwan’s Acer Inc. — the world’s No. 3 PC maker — Sony Corp. and China’s Haier Group said they were shipping Green Dam on disks with computers for sale in China. China’s Lenovo Group, the No. 4 producer, said it would offer the software pre-installed or on disk. Taiwan’s Asus Inc. said it was preparing to supply Green Dam disks with PCs. Taiwanese laptop maker BenQ Inc. said the system was on the hard drives of its computers.

Acer was supplying Green Dam because disks were already packed with PCs before the government postponed the plan, that had been due to take effect Wednesday, said a company spokeswoman, Meng Lei. Lenovo said it also was going ahead with plans made before the Green Dam order was postponed.

Hewlett-Packard Co., the world’s top PC manufacturer, said it was working with the U.S. government to get more information and declined to comment further. No. 2 Dell Inc. said it was not including Green Dam with its PCs.

Well, if China can use economic clout to make PC makers willing and eager accessories to censorship and the denial of free speech, then we can at least use the same tools to make our own voices heard.

Choose not to purchase technology by Acer, Sony, Haier, Lenovo, Asus or BenQ. BOYCOTT THEM until they change their policy, or at least until China gives them no choice but to comply. Obeying an unjust law to make censorship easier is bad enough, but to do so when that law is not even being enforced is far worse. Support HP and Dell for their willingness to at least put the breaks on this infantilization and infringement of the basic human rights of adult Chinese citizens and think things through. Before you buy a PC or other device try to find out where their manufacturer stands on this issue. Samsung? LG? Apple? What are YOU going to do?

I for one put my money where my mouth (and heart) is just this morning. I was a hair away from purchasing a Lenovo or Acer netbook when I opted for a Compaq (HP) model instead. A drop in the bucket? Of course…but I will NOT let my money be used to bolster the bottom line of companies that give into Chinese pressure and threats concerning human rights. I simply can’t do so in good conscience, even if it has no effect at all.

I urge you to do the same.

(Source – Simple Thoughts)

Zealot (839 Posts) - Website | Twitter | Facebook


By day a department manager and writer for a major network device vendor...by night Zealot stalks the mean magnetic streets, striking fear into the hearts of bandwidth abusers and theme park mascots. Zealot has been involved with mobile devices for more than a decade now, starting off with dumb phones, moving to PDAs and then to smartphones, notebooks and netbooks with the odd PMP thrown in. Most of his mobile time currently is spent on a Treo Pro, Zune HD, Thinkpad T61, HP Mini 311, iPod Touch 3G, iPad 16G or a Hackintoshed Compaq Mini 704. He proudly groks the Geek community and considers himself a Neo Maxi Zune Dweebie (thanks Wil Wheaton!).

ADVERTISEMENT

  • http://twitter.com/mobilitysite/status/2485962041 mobilitysite

    Breaking the Green Dam http://tinyurl.com/pqu7lh

  • http://twitter.com/moneyhelper/status/2487193471 Steve Tamburrino

    Breaking the Green Dam http://bit.ly/RLUsw

  • http://twitter.com/cooltribe/status/2487484652 Cooltribe

    Breaking the Green Dam: … to say nothing of twitter and other social networking sites. Therefore, the Chinese .. http://bit.ly/Co9aA

  • http://twitter.com/wongkendall/status/2487650191 Sapari Van Ryan

    Breaking the Green Dam: Politics are usually something I try to avoid on the internet. Lord knows we all have en.. http://tinyurl.com/pqu7lh

  • http://twitter.com/tracygazzard/status/2487737497 Tracy Gazzard

    Breaking the Green Dam http://bit.ly/Lgapn

  • mobilitysite

    Breaking the Green Dam http://tinyurl.com/pqu7lh

  • http://twitter.com/reenymal/status/2488368197 Reenita

    Breaking the Green Dam | Mobility Site: Therefore, the Chinese government decreed that any PC sold in China must.. http://bit.ly/4oGum

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    From what I've read, Green Dam doesn't have to be “built in” (in other words, pre-installed); OEMs can just include a disk with the PC. If most opt to do that, who cares? They're complying with the law but nobody has to actually install the software. :D And, even if it's pre-installed, that doesn't mean somebody has to actually run it.

    Now, if the Chinese government institutes some Big Brother system to check whether Green Dam is running before they allow connecting to the Internet (think Windows Genuine Advantage, but for Internet connections), that's a problem. However, that's the Chinese government's issue, not really PC makers, and it should be handled via diplomacy.

    Remember that some of those companies you singled out (like Lenovo) are based in China. What do you think would happen if they decided to not ship PCs with Green Dam?

    I'm not sure fighting this on the PC OEM field is the right place, either. Even,if non-Chinese OEMs decide to boycott China (despite a potential economic hit which wouldn't sit well with shareholders), the Chinese OEMs likely will comply and that will just boost their profits at the expense of non-Chinese OEMs. (Yes, it's the “if we don't sell to them, somebody else will” argument, but in this case, it's true.)

    And why is Green Dam suddenly thie breaking point? China has engaged in repressive tactics for years. Assume China completely scraps Green Dam. Is that enough? So it would be OK for PC companies to sell PCs to a repressive government as long as they don't require Green Dam?

    Personally, after all of the tainted products China has shipped to the U.S., I wish we'd boycott everything from China. That might also send a message to corporations that we want them hiring American labor, too, keeping jobs at home. (For those of you in other countries, feel free to substitute that country. :D)

    Steve

  • http://bardhaven.wordpress.com Zealot

    Those are all good points, and I admit internet censorship is a hot button issue for me.

    To be fair, after the problems with poisoned pet food, milk and candy, I try my best not to buy food products from China for safety reasons., but I do know people who refuse to buy any Chinese products for ideological reasons.

    Are PCs an ideological product? I don't know, but I do know that anything that strays into territory that helps or encourages censorship is bad for all of us, in my opinion. Any other ideas as to how we can make that clear, and possibly strike a blow for freedom of speech and expression worldwide?

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    From what I've read, Green Dam doesn't have to be “built in” (in other words, pre-installed); OEMs can just include a disk with the PC. If most opt to do that, who cares? They're complying with the law but nobody has to actually install the software. :D And, even if it's pre-installed, that doesn't mean somebody has to actually run it.

    Now, if the Chinese government institutes some Big Brother system to check whether Green Dam is running before they allow connecting to the Internet (think Windows Genuine Advantage, but for Internet connections), that's a problem. However, that's the Chinese government's issue, not really PC makers, and it should be handled via diplomacy.

    Remember that some of those companies you singled out (like Lenovo) are based in China. What do you think would happen if they decided to not ship PCs with Green Dam?

    I'm not sure fighting this on the PC OEM field is the right place, either. Even,if non-Chinese OEMs decide to boycott China (despite a potential economic hit which wouldn't sit well with shareholders), the Chinese OEMs likely will comply and that will just boost their profits at the expense of non-Chinese OEMs. (Yes, it's the “if we don't sell to them, somebody else will” argument, but in this case, it's true.)

    And why is Green Dam suddenly thie breaking point? China has engaged in repressive tactics for years. Assume China completely scraps Green Dam. Is that enough? So it would be OK for PC companies to sell PCs to a repressive government as long as they don't require Green Dam?

    Personally, after all of the tainted products China has shipped to the U.S., I wish we'd boycott everything from China. That might also send a message to corporations that we want them hiring American labor, too, keeping jobs at home. (For those of you in other countries, feel free to substitute that country. :D)

    Steve

  • http://bardhaven.wordpress.com Zealot

    Those are all good points, and I admit internet censorship is a hot button issue for me.

    To be fair, after the problems with poisoned pet food, milk and candy, I try my best not to buy food products from China for safety reasons., but I do know people who refuse to buy any Chinese products for ideological reasons.

    Are PCs an ideological product? I don't know, but I do know that anything that strays into territory that helps or encourages censorship is bad for all of us, in my opinion. Any other ideas as to how we can make that clear, and possibly strike a blow for freedom of speech and expression worldwide?

Subscription

You can subscribe by e-mail to receive news updates and breaking stories.

Polls

Would you use Bing on an iPhone?

View Results

Loading ... Loading ...

About Mobilitysite

Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): Entity: line 2: parser error : AttValue: " or ' expected in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): ^ in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): Entity: line 2: parser error : attributes construct error in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): ^ in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): Entity: line 2: parser error : Couldn't find end of Start Tag html line 2 in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): ^ in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): Entity: line 2: parser error : Extra content at the end of the document in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Warning: SimpleXMLElement::__construct(): ^ in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120 Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'String could not be parsed as XML' in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php:120 Stack trace: #0 /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php(120): SimpleXMLElement->__construct('...') #1 /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/single.php(76): include('/home/mobilitys...') #2 /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-includes/template-loader.php(34): include('/home/mobilitys...') #3 /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-blog-header.php(16): require_once('/home/mobilitys...') #4 /home/mobilitysite/public_html/index.php(17): require('/home/mobilitys...') #5 {main} thrown in /home/mobilitysite/public_html/wp-content/themes/tinynews/page_sidebar.php on line 120