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Google Sandbagging Palm Over Voice?

Posted by Zealot on August 26, 2009 – 4:25 pm  Share
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palm-pre-android-os A lot of people are up in arms over Apple refusing to allow a Google Voice app on the iPhone. Several high profile users have been blasting Apple over it, and now the Feds are looking into it the entire matter.  Apple has even gone so far as to post a letter defending themselves about this issue on the front page of their website. Many people want Google Voice due to the freedom it gives them to (among other  things) have multiple numbers all ring the same phone, as well as being able to have their number easily travel with them as they change phone service providers. Considering the massive amount of money Apple is making from AT&T to keep the iPhone exclusive, it is clear why Apple hates Google Voice and is willing to risk a lot to block it for as long as it can.

It is just as clear that Apple’s main rivals would therefore be quite eager to support Google Phone fully, right down to having it closely integrate with their basic calling functions. Google has developed apps for their own Android OS and BlackBerrys that do just that….but what about the iPhone’s Number 1 rival right now, the Palm Pre? Sure there is no app for WinMo or Symbian either, but most people agree that the only phone right now that is a proper challenger for the iPhone in the consumer market is the Pre and Palm has the most to gain in the short-term from Google Voice capabilities

According to Michael Arrington at TechCrunch, Google is saying all the right things but apparently NO WORK is being done to port Google Voice properly to the Pre. Certainly third parties will fill in some of that gap toot suite, but Arrington claims that due to a lack of a Google Voice API, the only people who can make an app that fully utilizes the technology’s capabilities are Google developers.

Says Arrington…

We’re hearing that Palm wants that deep integration to lure iPhone users to the Pre, and our source said it would roll out an official app some time in the next month or so. But from what we hear from sources close to Google, no one there is actually working on a Google Voice app for the Pre. They have apps for Android and Blackberry (and iPhone in purgatory), but that’s it.

Officially Google is saying “Google is interested in bringing the mobile experience of its products to many platforms, including Palm, as we have for the Palm Pre with Google Search, Google Maps, and YouTube built in, as well as easy sync to Gmail, Google Calendar and Google Contacts. We look forward to providing a mobile experience for more Google products to Palm Pre users.”

But our understanding from other sources is that Google only intends to roll out a browser based version of the service for Pre, which lacks the deep integration with native apps like the dialer and contacts. The user experience isn’t nearly as good.

So what’s up with that? Is Google trying to protect Android based phones? If so, why make the BlackBerry app? Is this due to more under the table dealings between Google and Apple, like that deal that was exposed a few weeks ago where they would not seek to hire away one another’s employees? Is Google protecting the iPhone in hopes that Apple relents sooner rather then later? Considering the newly bad blood that has been talked about lately between Google and Apple it seems like Google would be eager to stick another finger in Steve Jobs’ eye….and no better way to do it then by promoting the Pre.

Whatever Google’s reasoning, this seems to me to be a dangerous game to play with the FCC watching every move they make right now. They should be bending over backwards to calm down anti-trust regulators and show themselves eager to embrace healthy competition from all quarters….and denying this kind of cooperation to just one of their rivals (a rival that also happens to be shared by the other party in the anti-trust investigations, namely Apple) doesn’t look like embracing competition to me.

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By day a department manager and writer for a major network device vendor...by night Zealot stalks the mean magnetic streets, striking fear into the hearts of bandwidth abusers and theme park mascots. Zealot has been involved with mobile devices for more than a decade now, starting off with dumb phones, moving to PDAs and then to smartphones, notebooks and netbooks with the odd PMP thrown in. Most of his mobile time currently is spent on a Treo Pro, Zune HD, Thinkpad T61, Gigabyte M912M or a Hackintoshed Compaq Mini 704. He proudly groks the Geek community and considers himself a Neo Maxi Zune Dweebie (thanks Will Wheaton!).





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  • Graham Best
    I'm not sure there's a story here... While I'd like to see Google develop its Google Voice application for more mobile platforms (particularly Windows Mobile), there may not be enough Palm Pre users for them to justify the cost of development for a native application.

    I'm also unconvinced that the Google Voice API is not public. Here's some links to a third party Palm Pre application for Google Voice:

    http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/1951...
    http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/dkGoogl...
  • Frankenbike
    I don't see any mention of a Windows Mobile app either. Not that they're alone...Yahoo doesn't have apps for WinMo while they support Blackberry and iPhone. I don't get it.
  • Actually, Yahoo did produce apps for Windows Mobile -- Yahoo IM and Yahoo Go. I don't know if they still do, though.

    Steve
  • Considering Google hates Microsoft like White Choolate and Ebola, I don't even expect Google to produce anything for WinMo...but Palm is different, and a Google Voice app for the Pre would seem natural.
  • But Google does produce apps for Windows Mobile. There's Google Maps, a YouTube viewer and I believe GMail and Search, too. Check it out at the Google Windows Mobile page.

    Steve
  • True...but I think those are along the lines of the "browser based apps" that Arrington mentions. To be truly effective a Google Voice app would need to dig deep into the API, similar to the way some phone suites like SPB Mobile Shell or Phone Suite do.
  • Frankenbike
    I'm not sure about the GMail app, but Google Maps certainly goes deeper than just a browswer app, since it accesses the GPS.

    And everyone hates Microsoft, especially everyone who seems to develop apps for it. A lot of people also hate Apple, for a lot of reasons that are often covered here. The fact is, whatever their reasons for developing for these other platforms that can also be seen as competitors, the same reasons would apply to WinMo with a very large, although maybe not dominant, customer base.
  • Point taken, and I absolutely agree that Google is propriatary as sin. Maybe the Feds will too.
  • Frankenbike
    I kind of doubt such efforts would get traction. Google and Apple have both friends and fanatically religious acolytes, No one loves or worships Microsoft. There is no place for "love" when the market you claim you're most interested in is "enterprise" users.

    No one stands with Microsoft when they're right, because it would be like standing with Satan when he's right. And he could never be right, because he's Satan, so the "logic" goes.

    And it seems to be only very recently that people will openly criticize Google or Apple, or other Microsoft opposition, because they've rested part of their dreams of seeing Microsoft destroyed on the success of those two. And their eyes are only just opening to the fact that Apple is doing horrible things. And...well Google isn't quite doing things I'd recognize as "horrible" yet, but some people think they are.

    Because they see Google becoming Microsoft. Apple just restricts its torments to its users and developers, and it's more subtle airtight patents on technology that was already being used elsewhere, for their exclusive use in some technological domain that they convince the patent office is separate from the existing uses (why do you think you don't see any other "multi-touch", capacitive display touch phones?). The people don't know Apple is harming them and restricting their choice in the marketplace.
  • Frankenbike, I think I love you.
  • Frankenbike
    Don't tell my wife.
  • Is this due to more under the table dealings between Google and Apple, like that deal that was exposed a few weeks ago where they would not seek to hire away one another’s employees?

    There's also a story that Steve Jobs allegedly tried to reach an anti-poaching agreement with Palm a couple of years ago.

    On another topic, there's been some flack over Skype not being on Android, although that's supposedly because Android currently doesn't support "full" VOIP apps properly (which is why there's Skype Lite). (Really? What kind of design is that?)

    Steve
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