iPhone vs. Android vs. WinMo vs. WebOS vs. BlackBerry – Fight!

Posted by Gil Bouhnick on Nov 15, 2009

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Few months ago I wrote a provocative post comparing between different smartphones OS.

After getting hammered (pretty nicely I would say) by a lot of Google fans out there (but not only), furious about their little baby not winning the kindergarten contest, and after almost a year has passed, in which many have changed, I’ve decided to try again…

(Oh boy… here we go…)

So what’s different this year? A lot:
Two new significant releases of Android, one new version of iPhone OS, some updates to webOS, one Windows Mobile 6.5, and a lot of features, comparisons, social networks, app stores, devices and more.

The Rules:

The rules are simple: I set the rules.
They are completely subjective to my personal preferences, they are based on my own experience (from using a lot of devices – but not all of the available models).
Still, I will try my best to explain my reasons for the score and thoughts.

Oh, and remember; it’s a general comparison, not concentrating on specific devices. The available devices definitely affect the scorebut the focus is in the OS.

So let’s get ready to rumble!


Form Factor:

Form factor is not just about the design of a phone.
Having a large variety of choices also means you can find handsets with different prices, different screen resolution, different cameras, different speakers quality, different D-Pads (trackball, arrows, optical or none).
It means a freedom to choose the best option for your taste. 

In the past Microsoft used to enjoy a huge advantage with a really large number of form factors, but I believe this is about to change (already is actually) with many manufacturers abandoning the ship, seeking for opportunities with Google’s promising OS.
Android will get the same amount of points here, as it now offer a lot of new devices, and good ones too.
BlackBerry has a number of options but most of them are pretty much similar (Candybar QWERTY). Still, they do offer a verity of good looking phones.
Palm, theoretically can have more than those 2 devices out there today, (and in the past they used to have nice set of devices), but at the moment it’s just too little.
iPhone? Don’t give me that. Seriously! It’s true that every second phone today looks like an iPhone, it’s cutting edge even after 2-3 years, but I will never forgive Apple for dropping the ‘Send’ and ‘End’ buttons. Never.
It takes me at least 3 clicks (on different places in the screen that need to look for!) to resend a call where as with my Bold I do it with just 1 or 2, on one hardware button…
Nope. Apple gives just one iPhone, so they are getting only one point…

Android: 5
BlackBerry: 4
iPhone: 1
Palm WebOS: 2
WinMo: 5


Touch screen:

It seems like everyone are heading towards having capacitive screens (even Windows Mobile devices!). I have no problems with that, but from the tests I’ve made the iPhone still has a little advantage here: the smoothest finger gestures, massive use in multi-touch capabilities all across the applications.
The advantage is becoming smaller every day, especially when some new phones come with a much better screen resolution, but if I need to compare the “bottom line” iPhone would still get a perfect score while all the others a little less than that.
Oh, and RIM will probably be last as they only have the Storm and I’m not sure it can compete with the others.

Android: 4 [9]
BlackBerry: 1 [5]
iPhone: 5 [6]
Palm WebOS: 4 [6]
WinMo: 2 [7]


User Interface Design:

With companies like Motorola, Samsung, LG, and especially HTC wrapping the original look of the OS with their own shells, it’s really hard to tell what’s part of the OS and what’s customized.
Still, my feeling is that the iPhone who really started this revolution should win this section. Just for the sake of historic justice.
I would say that the Android, with an impressive progress in the UI side, is probably already better than all the others, and getting closer each day to being number #1.
Palm created a beautiful UI in webOS, but it’s still a bit cranky here and there, and it will definitely progress slower than the Android in the long run…
Windows Mobile… What can we say… Lucky Microsoft had HTC and SPB to help them get through 2008, but during 2009 I saw a lot of Microsoft fans simply moving to iPhone and Android just because of the user experience… Windows Mobile 6.5 has added some nice improvements, but they are mostly superficial.
BlackBerry’s GUI is closing this section, many apps still look like notepad running on Windows 97, although I think it has great usability (and this is why I added a dedicated section for that…)

Android: 4 [13]
BlackBerry: 1 [6]
iPhone: 5 [11]
Palm WebOS: 3 [9]
WinMo: 2 [9]


Usability:

My favorite topic. I can spend hours diagnosing every feature, how it helps me achieve what I’m trying to achieve, or not…
Of course most of you would expect to see iPhone as the natural winner here, but I must say that I actually think the iPhone has some usability issues.

As I see it, usability is not just about creating fancy UI, innovation and design. It’s also about doing things with minimum clicks, minimum movements of the fingers, single handedly, and making things simple for the user.

While iPhone brings the prettiest UI, and the one which is actually fun to use – many activities are done faster with BlackBerry.
Instead of moving the finger all around the screen looking for the right spots – you get to do EVERYTHING by using 3 buttons; one trackball, menu and back. Fascinating, don’t you think?
Subjectivity again, but for me making stuff with my BlackBerry (including typing long emails of course) is much faster than with the iPhone. (Browsing and zooming in/out images is an exception of course, but how often to you zoom a picture comparing to sending an email?).

Android: 3 [16]
BlackBerry: 5 [11]
iPhone: 4 [15]]
Palm WebOS: 3 [12]
WinMo: 2 [11]


Applications:

I would say that all platforms are now strong enough to allow the development of really great mobile applications.

Windows Mobile has a lot to offer for enterprise organizations looking for features rich (and native) applications, but most of them are not good looking and many of them are simply old.
Palm has a lot of old applications too, and with their virtual PalmOS running inside the webOS they managed to keep those apps alive(?).
BlackBerry does not offer that many apps just yet, and the development framework is not to be matched with the others, but still if you are looking for the basic facebook, twitter & stocks etc. – you will find yourself around.

That leaves us with the iPhone and the Android (what a surprise…).
The iPhone wins here, in terms of quality and numbers, but it doesn’t have multi-tasking (the Android has).

Hmm… here’s a struggle…

More applications, but no multi-tasking… instead, Apple created the push notifications, and a really quick task switching (closing one app and opening another – is really fast with the 3GS).
I must say that for me it’s not enough; I really miss the ability to do many things in parallel, but it’s not a deal breaker.
In fact, 80%-90% of the time I don’t really need real multi-tasking, just being able to remain logged in to my chats, and that is why I will leave the iPhone as the winner in this category, even though I do think Apple should wake up fast with this one until it’s too late.
Apple wins again, simply because they have everything I can possibly imagine, accessible, in their AppStore.

Android: 4 [20]
BlackBerry: 2 [13]
iPhone: 5 [20]
Palm WebOS: 2 [14]
WinMo: 4 [15]


Games & Entertainment:

This one is easy. iPhone.
Now, I know what people will say: Android will soon have more great games… Windows Mobile had it all around…
I’m sorry. Won’t work. If I need to pick one phone now, that will give me the highest number of great games (and a lot of crap too, that’s right…) and a lot of fun and funny tools – I’m getting an iPhone.

Android: 3 [23]
BlackBerry: 1 [14]
iPhone: 5 [25[
Palm WebOS: 1 [15]
WinMo: 3 [18]


Web Browsing

iPhone, webOS, and Android browsers are all based on the WebKit.
It means that they all allows a kind of similar quality and user experience. Still, from comparing Palm Pre, few Android devices (not yet the Droid I must admit) and iPhone – iPhone wins.
There’s something which is just working better with the movements, the speed, something which I think cannot be measured, but it’s just a matter of better user experience. (It’s also more stable now).
I’ve heard that RIM is working on a new browser which will be based on the WebKit too, (GOOD MORNING!) until then – BlackBerry has the worst browser of all… I cannot open half of the sites I’m trying to read! Even Microsoft’s browser is better!

Android: 4 [27] (I admit I haven’t used the Droid yet)
BlackBerry: 1 [15]
iPhone: 5 [30]
Palm WebOS: 4 [19]
WinMo: 2 (just because of Windows Mobile 6.5…) [20]


Cloud:

They say SalesForce invented the cloud before we even called the cloud: cloud. (I wonder how search engines will relate to this phrase when people will look for clouds…).

Nevertheless, Google is the master of all clouds, therefore I will give it the maximum points here.
Not all of us like the idea of storing our data out there in the cloud. I, for instance, prefer keeping my information below my mattress, but you have to admit: Google services are totally awesome.
I’m using Blogger for instance, not the best blog platform (to say the least), but definitely one which is simple to use, free, and working like a charm.
Google analytics is another great example, and even though I’m not a huge fan of the cloud I’m slowly getting there with more and more services I’m using.

It’s true that other platforms also integrate with Google apps nicely, Palm even called the new OS webOS, but there is a clear advantage to being a Google platform when you need to integrate it with… Google… don’t you think?

Android: 5 [32]
BlackBerry: 2 [17]
iPhone: 4 [34]
Palm WebOS: 4 [23]
WinMo: 2 [22]


Emails and text messages

We all like having the latest greatest apps and games loaded to out smartphones, when in fact, what we do most of the time is use it for calls, emails and text.
BlackBerry phones, are still, (in my opinion) the best alternative for emails and text. The keyboard is fantastic, perfect, the push is done beautifully (without using any direct push tricks), and that red light?
I can stare at it forever, waiting for it to blink again…

Android: 4 [36]
BlackBerry: 5 [22]
iPhone: 4 [38]
Palm WebOS: 3 [26]
WinMo: 3 [25]


PIM and Office Tools:

Even though Microsoft has the best office integration, the many workarounds, tasks applications, and other PIM applications every other OS has, make it hard to give Windows Mobile the first place.

Having Excel is nice, but I never did anything significant with Excel mobile anyhow, and I can read power point presentations from my BlackBerry without having to get Office Mobile…

Android: 3 [39]
BlackBerry: 4 [26]
iPhone: 5 (because you can find it all in the store) [43]
Palm WebOS: 3 [29]
WinMo: 4 (just because I can integrate with Outlook tasks easily) [29]


Social Networks Integration

Poor Palm people.
They really thought their innovative synergy will make the Pre a best seller. Unfortunately, this is not something which is hard to imitate… even by 3rd party applications… and now everyone has it.
Commodity.

Will it be a draw? After all, every mobile phone today can integrate nicely with facebook, twitter, etc. Some Android phones are doing it a bit more elegantly, BlackBerry connects facebook and twitter messages with the inbox screen.

OK, you know what, let’s give 1 extra point to Palm for the encouragement…

Android: 4 [43]
BlackBerry: 4 [30]
iPhone: 4 [47]
Palm WebOS: 5 (just because they say they invented it) [34]
WinMo: 4 [33]


Personalization

I cannot personalize my iPhone the same way I can add widgets to my Android or Samsung Omnia phone.
BlackBerry has also very little to offer here, but for its’ business users, skinning and customizing the phone is not too important anyhow…
Windows Mobile is still very easy to tweak.
It’s true that no matter how you try to change it, you are still stuck with the finger non-friendly settings screens and textual menus, but for the sake of keeping this section focused – here is the score:

Android: 4 [47]
BlackBerry: 2 [32]
iPhone: 2 (and just because I’m using a jailbroken iPhone…) [49]
Palm WebOS: 3 [37]
WinMo: 5 [38]


Final Score:

OK, it was a long one, check out the final results:

iPhone: [49]
Android: [47]
WinMo: [38]
Palm WebOS: [37]
BlackBerry: [32]

Summary:

The iPhone is our champion for this contest, but not by a knock out, Android, the emerging force, has come really close.

The results are completely different than a year ago.
Does that mean so many things have changed?
Or maybe it’s just a reflection of my changing preferences?

Android has done really great, but at the moment, Apple’s creation is still the most innovative phone gadget I’ve ever used, and still my choice to people who ask my recommendation.
True, some operations take too many finger movements, and it’s still better to type with a physical keyboard, but the iPhone experience, look and feel, prestige, are all – almost perfect.

I’m thinking of getting an Android for my personal use soon. I’m just waiting for the one model that will really be irresistible.
Droid? Maybe.

Palm and Microsoft, long time competitors (not too many years ago), are at the moment out of the contest. WinMo is too old for today’s stuff. It’s still a strong platform, but consumers don’t like it. Period.
Palm has created a great operating system, but does not enjoy the strong momentum and resources Android does.

BlackBerry came last, but I’m sure the many addicted users will not agree with me.

Of course, such kind of methodical comparison is probably not the right way to select a phone…

Otherwise how would you explain that I’m using a… BlackBerry?

Gil Bouhnick (70 Posts) - Website | Twitter | Facebook


Gil Bouhnick is a guest writer at MobilitySite and the owner of The Mobile Spoon. He is a Director of Mobile Solutions at ClickSoftware, running ClickSoftware's MobileFever, and constantly trying to examine new mobile trends and technologies.

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  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    Typical US bloggers. Should've called this site USMobilitySite.com. Where's the Symbian and Maemo OS comparisons in all this mess? It's only the top OS in the world, and Maemo the most talked about. Why not another update with the missing OSes??

  • http://twitter.com/Gadgetsteria Gadgetsteria

    Symbian doesn't even compare to the OS's in this round up. It's god awful old, outdated beyond belief, and is continuing to tank in market share. While it still is the leader in Europe, its only because of the low-end crap phones Nokia literally floods the world with. The true things we geeks care about, smartphones, Nokia hasn't had one worth lusting after in several years. Symbian is sadly past it's prime. Tha't why Nokia is moving on with Maemo.

    Even still Maemo is too under developed yet. Give it another year to mature. Then well talk.

  • Jimmy

    WinMo is all over Chinese phones and Asian phones alike. It still beats Android in volume and you can load it on any smart phone. I have Android running on my Htc Fuze, which came with windows. Windows Mobile is more of an underground community. I have about 70 useful apps on my windows mobile phone. They aren't dull or unattractive and I didn't have to pay a cent for them. I'd have to spend a whole lot of money to get that running legally on my iphone. Now I do like Android Gui much better. The gui I have on my Windows Mobile is an iphone replica. But you can do things with just one click with windows phones by changing settings and code. Apple locks their device and you have to do some crazy tinkering to break into theirs. Windows Mobile will always be the most glitchy phone OS, but also the most powerful and versatile. I can run Symbian, iPhone OS, Linux, Android, and Windows Mobile all through Windows Mobile. And as far as apps… Playing Chrono Trigger isn't a problem on my super nintendo Emulator on my windows mobile phone.

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  • jimtravis

    IPhone gets a 5 for web browsing only is you view full desktop pages (and do not need the Flash animations etc), and mobile sites coded for iPhone. On many single column pages (eg: Craigslist), and generic mobile sites, mobile Safari frequently displays the pages with too small a font to read even in landscape mode., Yes, you can use pinch zoom, but pinch zoom does not refflow the text. The result is horizontal scrolling to read each line which gets old after about two lines. Although not the standard browser, Opera mini (free), Opera mobile, Skyfire (free for WM and RIM), and NetFront do a better overall job displaying the entire web not just full desktop sites. These other browsers may not be as slick as mobile Safari, but they do a fine job displaying full sites (including Flash with Skyfire), and a fine job displaying mobile sites without horizontal scrolling to read each line. Using NetFront 3.3 on a 4″ VGA WM device, the overall browsing experience is more consisent for both desktop and mobile sites. In 2006, I frequently logged into my bank desktop secure sites (now the bank has mobile site), and reviewed transactions along with viewing photos of cancelled checks.

    You did state you established the rule, and I understand that. Just wanted to add the fact about mobile Safari having serious problems with some single column pages, and generic mobile sites.

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    Well, christexaport, forgive us for being a “typical” U.S. blog (love that stereotyping).

    But come on, Maemo is the most talked about OS? Not from the blogs that I follow, which feature Android, iPhone and Windows Mobile (if only to trash it :D).

    Steve

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    Pretty gutsy jumping on that grenade again, Gil. :D So here are my adjustments….

    I can't believe you only gave WinMo 4 for Office and gave the iPhone a 5 “because you can find it all in the store”. If you count third-party applications, you have to count Documents To Go for Windows Mobile office. WinMo should also get a bonus point for originating the category, like you gave to other areas.

    Also, if you're counting third-party apps, then you have to count Opera Mobile, Skyfire, etc. for WinMo browsers, all of the UI shells for usability, FlexMail for E-mail, etc. Those should all add at least one point to their respective areas.

    I also find it hard to believe that WinMo only gets a 2 for Internet services (or “Cloud”, but I hate that term). Besides the plenty of Google apps available for Windows Mobile that you mentioned, WM 6.5 now has an app store and the MyPhone backup service and there are Bing mobile and Windows Live services, too. I think WinMo should have gotten at least a 4.

    Making those adjustments gives WinMo a more respectable 44. It's still below the iPhone and Android in your estimation, but much closer. If you throw in Exchange support (something important to lots of businesses), I suspect the breakdown would be:

    Windows Mobile: 5 [49]
    iPhone: 4 [53]
    and nobody else higher than 3 (but I'm not sure about that).

    Steve

  • MobileSpoon

    Actually you are right.
    I didn't use google tools on winMo too much, so I completely neglected that part.

  • menneisyys

    “IPhone gets a 5 for web browsing only is you view full desktop pages (and do not need the Flash animations etc), and mobile sites coded for iPhone. On many single column pages (eg: Craigslist), and generic mobile sites, mobile Safari frequently displays the pages with too small a font to read even in landscape mode., Yes, you can use pinch zoom, but pinch zoom does not refflow the text. The result is horizontal scrolling to read each line which gets old after about two lines.”

    As is explained in one of my articles, this problem can very easily be fixed even on non-jailbroken devices. Just use the scriptlet I provide at http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/apple-iphone...

  • menneisyys

    “The true things we geeks care about, smartphones, Nokia hasn't had one worth lusting after in several years. Symbian is sadly past it's prime. Tha't why Nokia is moving on with Maemo.”

    Let me disagree. The N95 was a REAL phone; hardware-wise, much better than most e.g. WinMo phones at the time. (And even now…)

    Show me a phone with
    -a better camera
    -better stereo (!!!!) speakers with better built-in stereo widening support
    -an OS with HE-AACv2 support built-in
    -games and midlet managers (!!!) actually taking advantage of the 3D acceleration
    -a call recorder app for the iPhone or the BlackBerry :)

  • http://blackandroid.net/ Dirk

    I think you over rated WinMo and the iPhone in certain respects. WinMo tied with Android for apps? How can that be. Android is a close, very close, second to iPhone in app availability. No in shear number, but certainly in usefulness and coverage.

    Android (on 2.0 Droid) trumps all for web browsing, hands down. Smooth and fast via 3G or wifi. The iPhone just can't keep up, being on AT&T making it even worse.

    PIM? How did the Android get a 3? I just don't understand that rating.

  • jimtravis

    @menneisyys:

    I tried the script you posted. There is a problem on my first gen touch with V3 of the OS running this script. It is awhile since I coded javacript but the problem seems to be the “<” is replaced with a % code. I even tried the before, no change. I have copied the script (taking out cr), and typed the script. In all cases, the “<” gets changed. When I use the script in a desktop browser, it works as advertised. When I change the “<” to the % code the touch insists on changing the “<” to, it does not work on the desktop either. The original developer indicated the script could be flaky, but at least it worked. Don't know if the changing of the “<” is unique to my device, or a V3 issue. Based on the dates of the post, the script was released during V2 of the OS. I will continue exploring workarounds.

    Bottom line is mobile Safari has serious issues out of the box displaying some single column web pages. Even if the script worked fine in V2, it was broken by V3 of the OS at least on my touch. Maybe there is a workaround, or a new script that will work fine. The majority of the users will never find out about the script, and experience a subpar experience viewing some single column pages with mobile Safari. Apple really needs to fix this so all users experience single column pages with a comfortable text size without horizontal scrolling.

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    WinMo tied with Android for apps? How can that be. Android is a close, very close, second to iPhone in app availability. No in shear number, but certainly in usefulness and coverage.

    WinMo should at least tie Android. There are about 20,000 Windows Mobile applications covering pretty much every area. I believe that's still more than Android has.

    The only negative Gil had to say about them was that some of them were older and/or unattractive. To that I say, “So?” If an older application still works, does that make it less valuable? If an application works well, does being unattractive mean you won't use it?

    Plus, Windows Mobile allows installing apps from anywhere out of the box. You don't have to jailbreak it or root it (although some carriers may application lock certain areas, in which case you do need to do a bit of hacking).

    Steve

  • http://twitter.com/doogald doogald

    These are always fun. Of course these are things that are important to you, so it's funny to see people quibble over the things that you think are important. My only improved suggestion is point weighting. I'm guessing that there are some categories here that are more important to you when selecting a phone than others, and why downgrade a device with poor cloud integration, say, if that is not as important to you as texting and emailing (just as a “for example”)?

  • http://twitter.com/doogald doogald

    Well, another thing, of course, if it's Craigslist that you need, as Apple would say, there is an app for that …

  • MobileSpoon

    Thanks doogald. I actually took your suggestion and added some weights to 5 categories.
    Here are the new results: http://mobilespoon.blogspot.com/2009/11/war-of-...
    As you can see, it does explain why I actually like using the BlackBerry :-)

  • Alan Strangis

    A 5 for PIM/Office for the iPhone? Blech… :) Sorry, but without spending an extra nickel on software, MS does it better than anyone else, and integration isn't just limited to MS apps.

    One of the problems ranking Windows Mobile is that in a number of categories, its score varies widely IMHO. A Touch Pro 2 trumps everything I've tried in the keyboard department (including the Moto Droid – only the BB Bold is better IMHO).

    If one were to use something like the HTC Snap in the comparison, then WM would rank lower, but if using the Touch Pro 2, I'd say it handily deserves higher ranks in Browsing, Usability, US Design (Touch Flo is the best mobile UI out there, other than Sense), and when it comes to cloud integration, all WM devices work with Google's apps, but also integrate MS services, which to me makes it MORE valuable than pledging allegiance to one provider.

    And I'll take a combination of Skyfire and the built in Opera Mobile over Mobile Safari any day :)

    I'd say that this would be a better 'fight' if it were the iPhone 3GS vs. Moto Droid vs. Touch Pro 2 vs. Pre vs. BB Bold. That way the experience would be using basically the highest rated device from each OS supplier, and limit 3rd party apps to those that are freely downloadable.

    In that case, WM would rank much higher (and the Droid would get a bump too), and the iPhone would drop. Even with paid software, I'd give it a 4 max in PIM/Office, and lower its cloud rating, because not all cloud apps have background services. Android, WM and Palm all have real multitasking for a REAL cloud experience (and this goes for social networking too), though this is much more taxing on Androids battery life than it is for WM or Palm (battery life on Android phones is horrible with all the background stuff running – though I've not spent enough time with the Droid to see if the larger battery and 2.0 make a difference).

  • menneisyys

    Come on – while Symbian certainly has its merits (see my list in my prev post below), the iPhone is far more widely talked-about.

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    I'm well aware that the iPhone is more widely talked about in the US dominated blog world, but not by the consumers across the globe, who speak with their wallets. They're buying Symbian devices by the buttload. Why aren't we talking about the ones getting all of the sales, which I assume is the attraction to the iPhone? The biggest seller in the US is RIM, and even they were blocked out.

    Us as bloggers are responsible for the shift in mindshare of the readers. We have to do a better job to not overcover something on a site focused on all mobile tech. It makes it look like objectivity is lost, and only the US market matters. China and India might disagree…

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    Steve, forgive me, but I have to keep it real. I'm a US blogger too, so I'm not just hating. I don't remember the N95 being compared to everything out there, and it was just as hot as the iPhone. There's a bias among the media and blog community, and we have to do more to at least LOOK more objective.

    Now I was saying Symbian was the top OS in the world, not the most talked about. I was referring to Maemo as the most talked about, though I will concede that the iPhone has the mantle still. But I suggest you broaden your blog following ways and start reading some foreign writers and blogs that aren't centered around one OS. It will give a lot of perspective and insight.

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    why pay for an app for something that isn't broke? Why not pay Apple the money to fix its browser instead??

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    Sounds like you don't know the difference between Symbian and S60. Is Linux god awful if Mumbo Jumbo Linux Distro has a bad UI? Or is just the UI bad?

    While you're digging this hole, exactly how is being old a disadvantage? Mac OS, Linux, and Windows are old, too. They outdated as well? And how is Symbian outdated? Explain, please. And Symbian marketshare is tanking?? They're at ~46% globally, and are actually up YOY from Q3 2008. Don't you think that's an exaggeration? And Nokia has released far fewer devices since 2007 than usual, a big reason for the fall. Now that they're back releasing more models since the 5800 XM, marketshare is more stable, and definitely not tanking. That would be WinMo, not Symbian.

    And no one has lusted after any Symbian devices? Tell that to all of the N95s, N82s, E75s, 5800s and N97s that have sold. Maemo is much farther ahead than the iPhone's OS at its launch, and if you can't see that, you need eyeglasses, and not iGlasses. LOL (I had to get you on that one.)

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    Or that could view YouTube videos before the iPhone, though they lied and said they did it first. Or run 15-20+ apps at once with ease. Or do TV out with DVD quality video. Or play music while on the phone. Or play nearly any media filetype out there. Or use any audio file as a ringtone.

    The N95 is still a legendary device, and the iPhone still hasn't matched it years later. Close, but still a ways to go.

  • http://twitter.com/doogald doogald

    Craigsphone is a free app.

  • jimtravis

    Tried several Craigslist apps. A little bit better font size than with Safari, but not significantly larger. The font size with the apps I tried is not even close to the options you have with most of the other mobile browsers. Apple really needs to fix the problems with some single column pages. Additionally, without multi-tasking, you are switching from the browser to the app back to the browser, not very efficient.

  • http://www.Maemo-Freak.com christexaport

    Well shut me up, then. But I still don't understand why they don't just get a higher resolution screen and a better browser with Flash, and just use the site instead of all of these iPhone webpages and aggregated apps.

  • victois

    i think those scores are right on. and thats coming from a proud android user, viva la hero!!!

  • jkill

    “In the past Microsoft used to enjoy a huge advantage with a really large number of form factors, but I believe this is about to change (already is actually) with many manufacturers abandoning the ship, seeking for opportunities with Google’s promising OS.”

    You must be joking. Google OS got nothing on Windows 7. Google's OS is geared for netbooks not for normal laptops and PCs. Plus, does it matter how many “form factors” a system has? iPhone still kicks ass – better interface, speed, apps, and usability. It doesn't matter how many different Palm OS phones are out there – because they ALL SUCK. What you are talking about is a horizontal production system, the very reason why Windows OS has sucked for so many years. In fact, vertical development system, like APPLE, is much better for users especially when they are also price competitive. And oh, please don't compare $600 shit books by Dell to Apple Macbook and say Apple overcharge. People who've been using PCs for more than 10 years, like myself, are flocking to Apple because of the crap infested systems of PCs that we had to take for years. I switched to Apple despite the inconveniences, and it has been the best “technical” decision I've ever made.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zoasterboy Josh Davidson

    He's talking about Android vs. WinMo…. not Windows 7 vs Chrome OS.

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    Wow. First, let's try to keep discussions PG here. If you can't write without four-letter words, you're at the wrong place.

    Now, on to other comments.

    iPhone still kicks ass – better interface, speed, apps, and usability. It doesn't matter how many different Palm OS phones are out there – because they ALL SUCK.

    Thanks for that incisive analysis. Have you used the Pre? What makes you say they suck? Palm is as much about usability as Apple is, you know.

    And oh, please don't compare $600 [note]books by Dell to Apple Macbook and say Apple overcharge.

    Why not? If you can get comparable performance and features for less, that's a fair claim. And there are plenty of decent Windows laptops by companies other than Dell for well under $1000.

    People who've been using PCs for more than 10 years, like myself, are flocking to Apple because of the crap infested systems of PCs that we had to take for years.

    Really? Well, I've been using PCs for probably 20+ years, and I'm still using them. And I'm not a Mac hater, either — I've never owned one, but I did use one occasionally at work for one job and was an early subscriber to MacWorld and MacUser back when the Mac came out.

    As for people “flocking” to the Mac, Apple wishes, but I think they still have less than 10% of the PC market.

    Steve

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/34BEU6VWT4XLUJUMN3BZ2IZQTI Eric

    what in the HELL is up with all the iPhone bias in all of these blogs its getting really annoying malditos desgraciados creitinos imbeciles fanactIcos de iPhone

  • Sean

    [quote]I'd say that this would be a better 'fight' if it were the iPhone 3GS vs. Moto Droid vs. Touch Pro 2 vs. Pre vs. BB Bold. That way the experience would be using basically the highest rated device from each OS supplier, and limit 3rd party apps to those that are freely downloadable.[/quote]

    I would REALLY like to see that, as I'm a VERY casual user (Don't need Windows integration or heavy duty business/email capabilities) currently trying to decide on a Verizon phone (currently teetering between HTC TP2, Palm Pre, and Moto Droid). I'm also curious on people's take on the Omnia.

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    Gil has worked with lots of those devices. Just because somebody prefers one device over another is not “bias”. Bias means your preference or dislike for a device gets in the way of a fair review.

    And stop the namecalling (even if it wasn't in English, it's not appropriate). I've warned you about this enough. Further instances will get you reported to Sprint (who is providing your IP address).

    Steve

  • http://www.svpocketpc.com Pony99CA

    Gil has worked with lots of those devices. Just because somebody prefers one device over another is not “bias”. Bias means your preference or dislike for a device gets in the way of a fair review.

    And stop the namecalling (even if it wasn't in English, it's not appropriate). I've warned you about this enough. Further instances will get you reported to Sprint (who is providing your IP address).

    Steve

  • wevolve

    iPhone versus Android.
    http://iphone-versus-android.com
    Pick your favorite and see if you're on the winning team!

  • mu

    Very nice review overall, but you forgot one component – multimedia support (i.e. music, video, YouTube, etc) – in which case iPhone wins because they have a full iPod integrated within the device plus it is compatible with many external audio devices and car decks. I've never used a Palm but when I had a WinMo or BlackBerry I rarely listened to music or watched videos on them, simply because the experience ain't great…not to mention I can't use them to play music in my car without using that very inconvenient AUX cable.

  • mu

    Very nice review overall, but you forgot one component – multimedia support (i.e. music, video, YouTube, etc) – in which case iPhone wins because they have a full iPod integrated within the device plus it is compatible with many external audio devices and car decks. I've never used a Palm but when I had a WinMo or BlackBerry I rarely listened to music or watched videos on them, simply because the experience ain't great…not to mention I can't use them to play music in my car without using that very inconvenient AUX cable.

  • morpho4444

    what?.. multimedia support?..
    Blackberry can play AVI natively… on the Iphone you need to convert it to another bullshit format… What a shame.. I just drag it to my microSD memory and thats it. and you … oh wait you have to use itoons and convert it!…. hahah LOL keep converting!

  • morpho4444

    what?.. multimedia support?..
    Blackberry can play AVI natively… on the Iphone you need to convert it to another bullshit format… What a shame.. I just drag it to my microSD memory and thats it. and you … oh wait you have to use itoons and convert it!…. hahah LOL keep converting!

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