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HTC Passion Real, Running Android 2.1 and T-Mobile Bound?

Posted by Zealot on Dec 05, 2009

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mobile_Verizon-HTC-Passion-aka-Dragon A lot of rumors have been coming together this weekend concerning the HTC Passion/Dragon, rumored to be Google’s Android 2.1 flagship phone, similar to the way the Droid premiered Android 2.0. At the time the Droid was announced, there was much noise about the fact that Google has taken to holding the hand of a certain vendor for each Android release, helping them create a phone to best showcase the software, after having felt left down by the hardware side of the original Android phone, HTCs G-1. Google did this handholding thing with Moto (as Motorola themselves admitted with pride) in creating the droid for Android 2.0, and were rumored to be doing that with HTC for the next version of Android.

Soon after, rumors stated that the flagship HTC/Google collaboration was called the Passion or Dragon, and was the phone that Google brass were carrying around and testing. Next we learned that the Passion/Dragon was very much like the HD2 but running Android, and the version it was introducing would be 2.1.

Them it was rumored that the Passion was a figment and never really existed in the first place. Nothing to see here, go buy a Droid.

This weekend the Passion story was resurrected in a big way with a double headed rumor. First of all, Boy Genius reported on a list of HTC Android phones culled from a leaked Android 2.1 build. Included in the long list of code names, amongst such provocative gems as the “Incredible”, the “Espresso” and the “Huangshan”, were lo and behold the Passion, the PassionC (likely indicated a CDMA version) and the Dragon.

On the heels of that, TMOnews released word from a tipster that an Android phone called the Passion would be released on T-Mobile in the middle of January. The tipster also said this was the widely debated “Googlephone”, which is just plain silly since if we ever do see such a phone, the Google-orchestrated hype barrage will be Jobsian in proportion and start months in advance. However, the rumored T-Mobile release could very easily by the HTC Passion running Android 2.1.

Personally I think Google is shooting themselves in the foot releasing new Android versions so continuously, each with a new “must have” phone attached. Each one will inevitably cannibalize the sales of the one before, when they are being released with barely a month between them. The Droid has been enough of a hit where it could easily continue strong sales into the middle of 2010 or beyond…unless of course another Android flagship is launched in the meantime with a more recent  version to become the new hotness.

Windows Mobile has been suffering badly from too much time between updates, while Android may be suffering from not enough time between new versions. Apple’s pace of a new full software version for the iPhone once a year seems sensible…now if only they didn’t always make their versions so dependant on having the newest hardware.

Be that as it may, if you are looking for the hottest Android phone on the market, you may want to hold off on that Droid purchase a couple weeks, and see if the Passion really does appear as rumored.

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By day a department manager and writer for a major network device vendor...by night Zealot stalks the mean magnetic streets, striking fear into the hearts of bandwidth abusers and theme park mascots. Zealot has been involved with mobile devices for more than a decade now, starting off with dumb phones, moving to PDAs and then to smartphones, notebooks and netbooks with the odd PMP thrown in. Most of his mobile time currently is spent on a Treo Pro, Zune HD, Thinkpad T61, HP Mini 311, iPod Touch 3G, iPad 16G or a Hackintoshed Compaq Mini 704. He proudly groks the Geek community and considers himself a Neo Maxi Zune Dweebie (thanks Wil Wheaton!).

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  • Personally I think Google is shooting themselves in the foot releasing new Android versions so continuously, each with a new “must have” phone attached. Each one will inevitably cannibalize the sales of the one before, when they are being released with barely a month between them. The Droid has been enough of a hit where it could easily continue strong sales into the middle of 2010 or beyond…unless of course another Android flagship is launched in the meantime with a more recent version to become the new hotness.

    As others have said, unless you're willing to pay list price or an early termination fee, most new phones won't cannibalize slightly older phones for a while. And by the time they do, another release will have bypassed them. ;)

    Windows Mobile has been suffering badly from too much time between updates, while Android may be suffering from not enough time between new versions. Apple’s pace of a new full software version for the iPhone once a year seems sensible…now if only they didn’t always make their versions so dependant on having the newest hardware.

    I thought most iPhone software releases were backward compatible with existing hardware. Sure, new hardware features won't be supported on older devices, but doesn't the V3.x software run on the 3g (and maybe even the original iPhone)?

    Also, doesn't Apple release interim updates frequently (like point releases, maybe)?

    Steve
  • formigaman
    If you go to www.htcpassion.com, you will clearly see that it's coming to Verizon, not T-mobile. I would not be surprised however, if they don't release two or three of basically the same handset but with different names and slightly different frames. This phone is going to be amazing! I also can't wait to see what is going to be next from Blackberry and iPhone if they wanna keep up! I am a Blackberry user (I currently own the Tour), but I really like the flexibility and personalization of an Android phone. Not to mention the raw power of a 1 Ghz processor!!! Awesome!
  • formigaman
    That's crazy! I wonder why Verizon hasn't taken steps to have their logo removed from the website or HTC for using their name? It really ticks me off to think that T-Mobile might be getting the newest HTC with Android 2.1! Bummer!
  • tmoandroidg1
    did it do the same thing to u when we got the first android device?
    lol, its funny how people now, gets pissed on whoever release the next android phone, relax, chill...

    we got the first android, we haven't been on the fight ever since then, so if ever tmo does get this, we deserved it :)

    you guys got the droid, aren't u guys happy google shared?
  • htcpassion.com site bogus
    ...and if you go to http://htchero.com (a similar site)... they say "At the moment, not much is known about the legendary HTC Hero... it is lurking in the mobile shadows, waiting for the right moment to strike. Keep your eyes on this site - HTCHero.com - because we'll continue to bring you the latest news, rumors and information on what is destined to become one of the most noble and revered phones in the history of mobile technology!"
  • I keep hearing about the website, htcpassion.com, and nobody has done even the simplest sleuthing on it. It was registered with Enom, a discount registrar resold by many other cheap "buy a domain today" fronts. The person who registered it has paid to hide their personal credentials. The page you are viewing is hosted by made2own.com, another discount hosting service.

    This page is not owned by a corporation such as Verizion or HTC.
  • I agree on the bogus label. I rarely even check anymore since most of them end up being bogus.
  • PIN
    A Verizon Rep. (friend of mine) confirmed that a new Android Phone with the 1Ghz processor will be comming out this year. Verizon is scheduled to release 15 more phones before years end.
  • tsz
    Today at my local "V" store they said nothing new on the Droid line till end of Q1.
    They they tried to sell me the Moto Droid
  • dcbs
    Verizon rep confirms the HTC Passion / Dragon is coming:
    I was speaking to a Verizon tech rep yesterday about an issue with my current phone. I mentioned the Dragon / passion and described what I had read about it. She confirmed it is coming to Verizon soon. She would not say when. She has not seen it in person, but has studied it.
  • Will S
    Another thing to remember: The Moto Droid is selling great because of Verizon's advertising campaign ($1,000,000 or greater). I don't think Verizon's primary objective is to sell Droids; they want cell phone subscriptions.

    Whatever the next phone is (no matter how great) it will not sell like the Droid or the iPhone without the advertising. (ATT is just lucky Apple has great advertising!).

    If T-Mobile gets the HTC Passion, they need some kickin advertising.

    I'm wondering - if / how / when - the cell carriers will have promotions that specifically target users who would need to pay an early termination fee to switch. (e.g. offering a rebate of 50-75% of the termination fee the customer paid to switch from a competitor).
  • scott
    i questioned a verizon rep (on phone not in store) about something to entice me to drop my tmo contract, he stated its a law that one cell company can not interfer or "buy out" another cell companies early termination fee
    he suggested if i wanted to switch, i find someone to trade contracts with and suggested i google it or pay the termination fee (he said i know i would just wait til it ran out though, give us a call back then)

    i hope tmo gets this though, ive decided to stick with them instead of paying 50$ more with verizon for the same services im getting with tmo now (aside from poor 3g service in my area)
    contract expires soon and i really want an android phone, would really prefer this instead of a cliq or a g1
  • Seriously? comon now
    nooooo not T-Mobile!! it must go to Verizon!
  • SamuelB
    Everything I have read says this phone will be out mid december and I'm guessing it probably will have multi touch. The multi touch phone htc droid which only supports android os 1.5 is multi touch and the predicted 2.0+ os upgrade for it won't be avalable until the first quarter of 2010 because it's not compatible with the touch screen now. So if the htc passion does have a multi touch screen how will it come out in December. Wouldn't it be more plausible for it to come out early next year?
  • is that picture a leak or a photoshop? I kinda looks like a combo of the droids buttons but the heros body style tweaked a little. plus it looks like its running stock android.
  • As far as I know it is a leak...which means it could very easily be a photoshop.
  • mccjlwind
    As long as each flagship phone is on a different network, then I don't see how it's going to hurt the other all that much. Most people are upgrading their phones before the contract runs out, making it difficulty to switch carriers
  • Kris Mac
    I agree with Will S. From a consumer stand point, I LOVE seeing many options available to choose from. Granted this doesn't help Verizon or T-mobile, etc, but that was never the point. The carriers WILL carry the phone (and fight to get the next flagship phone coming every time). Consumers seeing many many handsets available will likely choose android.
    And the vast majority of consumers don't look into upcoming phones and won't know that passion is coming out. Droid will still sell until then, (and considering Verizons nice coverage) likely well after.
  • Kris Mac
    I agree with Will S. From a consumer stand point, I LOVE seeing many options available to choose from. Granted this doesn't help Verizon or T-mobile, etc, but that was never the point. The carriers WILL carry the phone (and fight to get the next flagship phone coming every time). Consumers seeing many many handsets available will likely choose android.
    And the vast majority of consumers don't look into upcoming phones and won't know that passion is coming out. Droid will still sell until then, (and considering Verizons nice coverage) likely well after.
  • Will S
    I disagree with your statement, "Google is shooting themselves in the foot releasing new Android versions so continuously, each with a new “must have” phone attached. Each one will inevitably cannibalize the sales of the one before."

    I don't believe Google is making money off selling hardware. Their goal is about market share of the Android platform overall (without which, the platform could die). By continuing to improve on the OS and working with multiple vendors, they have a good possibility of both growing market share and vendor support. Currently, each vendor wants to provide a great phone. It is the vendors competing that will ultimately make some excellent phones.
  • JonnyB0
    yeah, that is very put said dude I completely agree, and i would like to add that what Google is doing is simply making their name more heard and therefore keep the title of the Search Engine Giant, and also make sure the consumers know whenever they buy a Google Product(Goggle Chrome OS)that they will get everything the product offers and more. Maybe One day they will have 40% Market share for Mobile OS's and finally beat iPhone. And their next competitor will be Microsoft for Market share for PC OS's, and they might actually have a chance since there are already going to beat their Mobile OS.
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