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pjpeter · 04-25-08, 06:58 PM

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Dear Peter,

Thanks for your fast feedback, we are currently under the analyzing process, will
update you when we have made progress.

Best Regards

henry Field Application Engineer

SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.

MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953

6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949

http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: 'henry'
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Hello Henry,

With the new driver I managed to get the device to 9600 and 4800, at those two settings TomTom would say that it was 'Waiting for valid GPS Signal' and also sometimes say 'No GPS Device.' I was not able to get a fix through the program on either of these settings and the program seemed to be very slow at some points, and normal at others. With 38400 though, I am able to get a signal. The way I connect through 38400 is to very quickly upon starting the program go to the GPS settings and turn it to some incorrect setting, such as 4800 with Spectec SDIO Driver, or Com 3 for instance. Then when the program is running normally I change it back to the correct 38400 baud setting, and the GPS Lock and data become visible in TomTom. Occasionally the program will even start to track my movement. The program is very slow, however, and whenever I try to do anything more, however, such as going through the menus to navigate somewhere the program becomes extremely sluggish and will take 1 or 2 minutes to respond to a keystroke. It also seems to freeze up for 5 minutes sometimes. It doesn't seem to get better until I eject the SDG-810 or do a soft reset of the device.

I tried your suggestion to improve the SD performance, including formatting the mini-sd card to FAT32. I attempted again to change the MicroSD Card Cache, but was unable to do so in MemMaid 2 as I was advised previously. How do you do the change on your rx1950 device? I have changed the firmware on my device to an older version to try to fix the problem, and the SD is faster now with this other version, but it doesn't seem to help much in TomTom when using the SDG-810.

Please see my reply at http://www.aximsite-dot-com-/boards/...-axim-x30.html I am the pjpeter in that post, I sent that out at about the same time I first contacted you last week.

Thanks very much,

Peter

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From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:22 PM
To: Peter
Subject: Fw: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810
Importance: High

Dear Peter,

Here are 2 steps to improve SDG-810 performance:

1. I formated the SD card in FAT32 (it was in FAT16);
2. Then, increased the size of the MicroSD card cache. I mean, the OS reads the data in the card in 16kbytes chunks by default,
and please increased it to 256kbytes.

Please try it, and let me know the result.

Best Regards

henry Field Application Engineer

SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.

MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953

6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949

http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw

----- Original Message -----
From: henry
To: Peter
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Dear Peter,

Please have a try on the new SDG-810 driver by a lower baud rate (like 9600),
and see if the same observations come.

Best Regards

henry Field Application Engineer

SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.

MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953

6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949

http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: 'henry'
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Hello Henry,

One other quick update, I was able to get the TomTom software to eventually update the status when the GPS unit had a lock so that it would display the correct Latitude and Longitude and knew where I was on the map (as it would do before). However, while connected the program was as sluggish as before taking 1 or 2 minutes to respond to any command, and it continues to show 'No GPS Device' rather than 'Connection Lost' or some other message as it should give when the device (the SDG-810) is still in the PDA. Even after exiting the TomTom GPS status screen it continues to act sluggishly, whether the SDG-810 is blinking or not, taking up to 5 minutes or more to respond to a screen tap.

Thanks,
Peter

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From: Peter [mailto:pjpeter-AT-rogers-dot-com-]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:04 AM
To: 'henry'
Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Hello Henry,

Thanks for sending this along to me. Here are the steps I followed:

I installed the sdg810_1204_p.cab file you sent me, expecting that it would ask to replace the SPECTEC GPS Driver already installed, but it did not. So after getting the same response as previously from the applications I uninstalled the old Spectec driver. Then when I reconnected the card I got an 'Unrecognized card' message so I reinstalled the driver. After this I was getting slighly more speedy response from TomTom except when I clicked to go to 'GPS Status' when it would freeze for a minute, and then resume when the screen was entered. But there was no GPS info there and it continues to say 'No GPS device'

I realized that the Aurea SDUART driver from the website was also installed (the standard driver, I had installed it as well as the rx1950 specific one to see if it helped me connect, which it did not). I uninstalled this and once again got the 'Unrecognized card' message on reconnecting my SDG-810 so I reinstalled the new driver you gave me and I was then able to access GPS as before with Mapopolis and GPS Viewer. Once opening TomTom and setting it to the new SpecTec SDIO Driver though it would still would not say anything but 'No GPS device' so I uninstalled the program and did a Soft Reset. Other programs still work, but TomTom won't connect and it still reacts sluggishly in the menus after the GPS is selected (and all other times the program is opened after that point, since it remembers it), even right after a soft reset without opening any other programs. As soon as I eject the SDG-810 from the SD card slot though, the prorgam instantly starts to respond. I haven't been able to get it to find my location with this driver though.

Is this expected behaviour with this test driver? Should I follow some other steps or do a hard reset?

Thanks,
Peter

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From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:14 AM
To: Peter
Subject: Fw: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810
Importance: High

Dear Peter,

We have done some correction upon SDG-810 driver and here I add it into the
attachment for your reference, please have a try upon it on your PDA, It will be
very appreciated if you can be so kindly and update me the test result for the
documentation work at our side.

Best Regards

henry Field Application Engineer

SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.

MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953

6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949

http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw

----- Original Message -----
From: henry
To: Peter
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Dear Peter,

We are now looking into the SDG-810 driver according to the respondsn from customers,
thank you for giving details on what all behaviour you see with Tom Tom. we will update
you the revised driver when we work it out, please never hesitate update me other details should
you find in using SDG-810.

thank you very much & best regards
henry
SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.
MSN contact: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com-

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: 'henry'
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Hello Henry,

Thank you for replying. I have not contacted you previously, but I have read over the SpecTec discussion forums and i have a problem similar to what Russia wrote on the forum, but did not seem to get a reply to there:

http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw/cutef...sp?main_id=129
"Hello.
I alsi have HP 1950 and sdg-810 devices.
Initially it was very slow (in a tom tom searching of a city requre 20-30 secomnd for each letter), and now it almost not connecting to satellites...
How to fix this? "

I had a similar experience with TomTom 5.21 and TomTom 6.75. In both cases the programs worked very fast with the micro-sd and Spectec SDG810 installed in it, but with the GPS not setup. But once I set it to NMEA-38400baud-Com4 "Spectec GPS Driver" the program would almost instantly go very very slowly. I found that if I ejected the SD card things on the screen would refresh and the program would show my current location, but then a few seconds later it would go back to 'No GPS Found' and when I reconnected the card again the program would be just as slow. The status does not refresh often if at all and it often hangs once the driver is selected. It was as if it was getting all the GPS data and couldn't sort through it until it stopped, maybe it was getting it too fast or it was doing the wrong thing with it or something. The pda would get very hot, as though in some sort of infinite loop maybe, or doing processes without being able to accomplish anything. I also tried with Wififofum which is a free program for finding Wifi signals and triangulating them with GPS and it would also crash/go very very slowly with the rx1950 and SDG-810 as soon as I enabled the GPS and set it properly to the SDG810 port.

I found that Mapopolis did work, though it is a very old program which is no longer supported and has maps 2 years out of date.

I am using my Spectec SDG810 with a Kingston 2GB micro-SD card. The driver I am using is modified SpecTec drivers for the rx1950 and a few other PDAs from the website, "HTC Charmer PM200, Qtek S200, HP 5965, HP 1950, HP 2190, Dopod 900, ASUS p535, Treo750, DELL x30, TOSHIBA 1830."

I have tried doing two hard resets and just installing the SDG-810 driver (and general-sdio.cab driver so I can access the micro-sd card) and the TomTom software without any boost in performance.

I tried with GPS Tweak and GPS Finder and confirmed that Com4, 38400 is correct and they do show lots of GPS words when turned on and GPS Finder is able to lock onto Satellites. It's the big programs such as TomTom using the micro-sd memory to access maps which seem to have problems, or which the programs which run off of the card. Maybe it could be something to do with the gps data from the driver overwhelming the data coming from the micro-sd? I'm not sure what else to do, I'm hoping maybe you know amd maybe even you helped someone in the past with the same sort of problem so it would be easy for you.

Thanks very much,
Peter

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From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:54 AM
To: Peter
Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Dear Peter,

Thanks for responding question, I don't seem to had received your email before, would you please re-send your email if any,
or please provide more details regarding the usage problem of SDG-810 on your 1950.

best regards
henry
SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter
To: henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810

Hello,

I've had a lot of problems trying to get the SDG-810 to work sucessfully with the rx1950 using WM5 and TomTom 5 and 6 for about a month now with no luck. I am able to use the GPS but it is very slow and the device crashes often. It does work ok with other software such as Mapopolis, but this is old and does not have new maps. I am willing to help if i can and will test drivers for you if that helps.

Thanks,
Peter

04-25-08, 06:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
pjpeter Aximsite Prospect Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	More: Dear Peter, Thanks for your fast feedback, we are currently under the analyzing process, will update you when we have made progress. Best Regards henry Field Application Engineer SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953 6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949 http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter To: 'henry' Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:36 PM Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Hello Henry, With the new driver I managed to get the device to 9600 and 4800, at those two settings TomTom would say that it was 'Waiting for valid GPS Signal' and also sometimes say 'No GPS Device.' I was not able to get a fix through the program on either of these settings and the program seemed to be very slow at some points, and normal at others. With 38400 though, I am able to get a signal. The way I connect through 38400 is to very quickly upon starting the program go to the GPS settings and turn it to some incorrect setting, such as 4800 with Spectec SDIO Driver, or Com 3 for instance. Then when the program is running normally I change it back to the correct 38400 baud setting, and the GPS Lock and data become visible in TomTom. Occasionally the program will even start to track my movement. The program is very slow, however, and whenever I try to do anything more, however, such as going through the menus to navigate somewhere the program becomes extremely sluggish and will take 1 or 2 minutes to respond to a keystroke. It also seems to freeze up for 5 minutes sometimes. It doesn't seem to get better until I eject the SDG-810 or do a soft reset of the device. I tried your suggestion to improve the SD performance, including formatting the mini-sd card to FAT32. I attempted again to change the MicroSD Card Cache, but was unable to do so in MemMaid 2 as I was advised previously. How do you do the change on your rx1950 device? I have changed the firmware on my device to an older version to try to fix the problem, and the SD is faster now with this other version, but it doesn't seem to help much in TomTom when using the SDG-810. Please see my reply at http://www.aximsite-dot-com-/boards/...-axim-x30.html I am the pjpeter in that post, I sent that out at about the same time I first contacted you last week. Thanks very much, Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:22 PM To: Peter Subject: Fw: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Importance: High Dear Peter, Here are 2 steps to improve SDG-810 performance: 1. I formated the SD card in FAT32 (it was in FAT16); 2. Then, increased the size of the MicroSD card cache. I mean, the OS reads the data in the card in 16kbytes chunks by default, and please increased it to 256kbytes. Please try it, and let me know the result. Best Regards henry Field Application Engineer SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953 6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949 http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw ----- Original Message ----- From: henry To: Peter Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Dear Peter, Please have a try on the new SDG-810 driver by a lower baud rate (like 9600), and see if the same observations come. Best Regards henry Field Application Engineer SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953 6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949 http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter To: 'henry' Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Hello Henry, One other quick update, I was able to get the TomTom software to eventually update the status when the GPS unit had a lock so that it would display the correct Latitude and Longitude and knew where I was on the map (as it would do before). However, while connected the program was as sluggish as before taking 1 or 2 minutes to respond to any command, and it continues to show 'No GPS Device' rather than 'Connection Lost' or some other message as it should give when the device (the SDG-810) is still in the PDA. Even after exiting the TomTom GPS status screen it continues to act sluggishly, whether the SDG-810 is blinking or not, taking up to 5 minutes or more to respond to a screen tap. Thanks, Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter [mailto:pjpeter-AT-rogers-dot-com-] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:04 AM To: 'henry' Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Hello Henry, Thanks for sending this along to me. Here are the steps I followed: I installed the sdg810_1204_p.cab file you sent me, expecting that it would ask to replace the SPECTEC GPS Driver already installed, but it did not. So after getting the same response as previously from the applications I uninstalled the old Spectec driver. Then when I reconnected the card I got an 'Unrecognized card' message so I reinstalled the driver. After this I was getting slighly more speedy response from TomTom except when I clicked to go to 'GPS Status' when it would freeze for a minute, and then resume when the screen was entered. But there was no GPS info there and it continues to say 'No GPS device' I realized that the Aurea SDUART driver from the website was also installed (the standard driver, I had installed it as well as the rx1950 specific one to see if it helped me connect, which it did not). I uninstalled this and once again got the 'Unrecognized card' message on reconnecting my SDG-810 so I reinstalled the new driver you gave me and I was then able to access GPS as before with Mapopolis and GPS Viewer. Once opening TomTom and setting it to the new SpecTec SDIO Driver though it would still would not say anything but 'No GPS device' so I uninstalled the program and did a Soft Reset. Other programs still work, but TomTom won't connect and it still reacts sluggishly in the menus after the GPS is selected (and all other times the program is opened after that point, since it remembers it), even right after a soft reset without opening any other programs. As soon as I eject the SDG-810 from the SD card slot though, the prorgam instantly starts to respond. I haven't been able to get it to find my location with this driver though. Is this expected behaviour with this test driver? Should I follow some other steps or do a hard reset? Thanks, Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:14 AM To: Peter Subject: Fw: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Importance: High Dear Peter, We have done some correction upon SDG-810 driver and here I add it into the attachment for your reference, please have a try upon it on your PDA, It will be very appreciated if you can be so kindly and update me the test result for the documentation work at our side. Best Regards henry Field Application Engineer SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. MSN: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- TEL: +886-2-2753-2953 6F, No. 92, Nan King E. Rd. Sec-5, Taipei, Taiwan FAX: +886-2-2753-2949 http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw ----- Original Message ----- From: henry To: Peter Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Dear Peter, We are now looking into the SDG-810 driver according to the respondsn from customers, thank you for giving details on what all behaviour you see with Tom Tom. we will update you the revised driver when we work it out, please never hesitate update me other details should you find in using SDG-810. thank you very much & best regards henry SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. MSN contact: henry-fae-AT-hotmail-dot-com- ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter To: 'henry' Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: RE: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Hello Henry, Thank you for replying. I have not contacted you previously, but I have read over the SpecTec discussion forums and i have a problem similar to what Russia wrote on the forum, but did not seem to get a reply to there: http://www.spectec-dot-com-.tw/cutef...sp?main_id=129 "Hello. I alsi have HP 1950 and sdg-810 devices. Initially it was very slow (in a tom tom searching of a city requre 20-30 secomnd for each letter), and now it almost not connecting to satellites... How to fix this? " I had a similar experience with TomTom 5.21 and TomTom 6.75. In both cases the programs worked very fast with the micro-sd and Spectec SDG810 installed in it, but with the GPS not setup. But once I set it to NMEA-38400baud-Com4 "Spectec GPS Driver" the program would almost instantly go very very slowly. I found that if I ejected the SD card things on the screen would refresh and the program would show my current location, but then a few seconds later it would go back to 'No GPS Found' and when I reconnected the card again the program would be just as slow. The status does not refresh often if at all and it often hangs once the driver is selected. It was as if it was getting all the GPS data and couldn't sort through it until it stopped, maybe it was getting it too fast or it was doing the wrong thing with it or something. The pda would get very hot, as though in some sort of infinite loop maybe, or doing processes without being able to accomplish anything. I also tried with Wififofum which is a free program for finding Wifi signals and triangulating them with GPS and it would also crash/go very very slowly with the rx1950 and SDG-810 as soon as I enabled the GPS and set it properly to the SDG810 port. I found that Mapopolis did work, though it is a very old program which is no longer supported and has maps 2 years out of date. I am using my Spectec SDG810 with a Kingston 2GB micro-SD card. The driver I am using is modified SpecTec drivers for the rx1950 and a few other PDAs from the website, "HTC Charmer PM200, Qtek S200, HP 5965, HP 1950, HP 2190, Dopod 900, ASUS p535, Treo750, DELL x30, TOSHIBA 1830." I have tried doing two hard resets and just installing the SDG-810 driver (and general-sdio.cab driver so I can access the micro-sd card) and the TomTom software without any boost in performance. I tried with GPS Tweak and GPS Finder and confirmed that Com4, 38400 is correct and they do show lots of GPS words when turned on and GPS Finder is able to lock onto Satellites. It's the big programs such as TomTom using the micro-sd memory to access maps which seem to have problems, or which the programs which run off of the card. Maybe it could be something to do with the gps data from the driver overwhelming the data coming from the micro-sd? I'm not sure what else to do, I'm hoping maybe you know amd maybe even you helped someone in the past with the same sort of problem so it would be easy for you. Thanks very much, Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: henry [mailto:henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:54 AM To: Peter Subject: Re: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Dear Peter, Thanks for responding question, I don't seem to had received your email before, would you please re-send your email if any, or please provide more details regarding the usage problem of SDG-810 on your 1950. best regards henry SPECTEC COMPUTER CO., LTD. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter To: henry-AT-spectec-dot-com-.tw Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: TomTom 5/6 Very Slow on rx1950 with SDG-810 Hello, I've had a lot of problems trying to get the SDG-810 to work sucessfully with the rx1950 using WM5 and TomTom 5 and 6 for about a month now with no luck. I am able to use the GPS but it is very slow and the device crashes often. It does work ok with other software such as Mapopolis, but this is old and does not have new maps. I am willing to help if i can and will test drivers for you if that helps. Thanks, Peter