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Menneisyys · 06-04-09, 07:16 PM

UPDATE:

In the meantime, based on public feedback (see selurus' and yitzy's requests on Wednesday, 3. June 2009, 18:13:35 and 23:30:15, respectively, at Another major breakthrough from me:I've enabled copying from Opera Mini on ALL mobile platforms! - Opera Mini - Opera Community ), I've added the following two front-end pages:

http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/i2.html : if you paste the source page URL to this page, you'll be presented by all blocks in order. This way, you'll see (based on the text already visible in the beginning of each textarea) right away in which block you need to look. selurus reported it caused no slowdown on his handset; your mileage, on other handset models / operating systems may vary. That is, if you don't need this kind of breakup and/or it causes too much slowdown and you're sure you can find a given part of the text faster using the traditional links, use the first version instead. (Feedback is welcome!)

http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/i3.html : this displays UTF-8 pages properly (most oriental languages like Chinese / Japanese; Hebrew etc.). I've tested it with ðàåí àåáîä á÷äéø | ìùëú øàù äîîùìä áúâåáä: ð÷ãí äùìåí òì ñîê äàéðèøñéí ùìðå - ôåìéèé îãéðé - äàøõ (Hebrew) and Romanit ? Wikipedia (Finnish; check out the letter "ž" in word gudžarati after "urdu, hindi, sanskrit ja"). NOTE: it's for UTF-8 source pages ONLY. Do not try to decode e.g. East-European languages using 8859-X with it. I plan to release a version compatible with these traditional, 8-bit encodings as well when I have the time so that charset setting becomes automatic.

As you can see, these front-ends 1. offer an alternative view (displaying the content of the entire page in multiple text areas, keeping in mind the text area editing limits) and 2. allow for copying from UTF-8-encoded pages.

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Also in the Opera Mini Community forum, there's a nice tip posted by Yeswap: use "bookmarklets" to speed up invoking the converter. To do this, do the following:
1. from Opera Mini, go to Opera Mini Bookmarklets
2. click Tools or scroll down to Tools
3. click Copy Page Text
4. (seemingly) the same page reloads; NOW bookmark it as a standard bookmark (Menu / Tools / Add Bookmark or #7 if you have hardware buttons). However, don't save the bookmark yet - just open it for editing!
5. remove "Opera Mini Bookmarklets" from the URL so that it becomes javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&blo cknr=0'
6. now, you can already save the edited bookmark.
7. you can quickly invoke the new bookmark: when you're on a Web page you'd like to copy to the contents to an editable text area (so that you can, later, copy text from), just go to your bookmarks (Menu / Bookmarks or, if you have hardware keys, #2) and click the just-added "Copy Page Text" entry. You'll be immediately taken to the target page - that is, no manual URL pasting is necessary any more! As you can see, this has really made all this very simple.

Note that you can safely change "om.jsp" to either "om2.jsp" or "om3.jsp" in the URL you bookmark (so that it becomes javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om2.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&block nr=0' and javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om3.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&block nr=0', respectively), should you want to have a direct link to the two new, alternative pages (display all the pages and use UTF-8) I've just added.

Also note that, strictly, you don't have to go to Opera Mini Bookmarklets to add the bookmarklets. You can do the same by adding a new bookmark with the above contents (e.g., javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om2.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&bl ocknr=0' ). Also, you can name your bookmark anything - not strictly Copy Page Text.

06-04-09, 07:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Menneisyys Contributing Reviewer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,575 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	UPDATE: In the meantime, based on public feedback (see selurus' and yitzy's requests on Wednesday, 3. June 2009, 18:13:35 and 23:30:15, respectively, at Another major breakthrough from me:I've enabled copying from Opera Mini on ALL mobile platforms! - Opera Mini - Opera Community ), I've added the following two front-end pages: http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/i2.html : if you paste the source page URL to this page, you'll be presented by all blocks in order. This way, you'll see (based on the text already visible in the beginning of each textarea) right away in which block you need to look. selurus reported it caused no slowdown on his handset; your mileage, on other handset models / operating systems may vary. That is, if you don't need this kind of breakup and/or it causes too much slowdown and you're sure you can find a given part of the text faster using the traditional links, use the first version instead. (Feedback is welcome!) http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/i3.html : this displays UTF-8 pages properly (most oriental languages like Chinese / Japanese; Hebrew etc.). I've tested it with ðàåí àåáîä á÷äéø \| ìùëú øàù äîîùìä áúâåáä: ð÷ãí äùìåí òì ñîê äàéðèøñéí ùìðå - ôåìéèé îãéðé - äàøõ (Hebrew) and Romanit ? Wikipedia (Finnish; check out the letter "ž" in word gudžarati after "urdu, hindi, sanskrit ja"). NOTE: it's for UTF-8 source pages ONLY. Do not try to decode e.g. East-European languages using 8859-X with it. I plan to release a version compatible with these traditional, 8-bit encodings as well when I have the time so that charset setting becomes automatic. As you can see, these front-ends 1. offer an alternative view (displaying the content of the entire page in multiple text areas, keeping in mind the text area editing limits) and 2. allow for copying from UTF-8-encoded pages. ------------------------------------------ Also in the Opera Mini Community forum, there's a nice tip posted by Yeswap: use "bookmarklets" to speed up invoking the converter. To do this, do the following: 1. from Opera Mini, go to Opera Mini Bookmarklets 2. click Tools or scroll down to Tools 3. click Copy Page Text 4. (seemingly) the same page reloads; NOW bookmark it as a standard bookmark (Menu / Tools / Add Bookmark or #7 if you have hardware buttons). However, don't save the bookmark yet - just open it for editing! 5. remove "Opera Mini Bookmarklets" from the URL so that it becomes javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&blo cknr=0' 6. now, you can already save the edited bookmark. 7. you can quickly invoke the new bookmark: when you're on a Web page you'd like to copy to the contents to an editable text area (so that you can, later, copy text from), just go to your bookmarks (Menu / Bookmarks or, if you have hardware keys, #2) and click the just-added "Copy Page Text" entry. You'll be immediately taken to the target page - that is, no manual URL pasting is necessary any more! As you can see, this has really made all this very simple. Note that you can safely change "om.jsp" to either "om2.jsp" or "om3.jsp" in the URL you bookmark (so that it becomes javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om2.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&block nr=0' and javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om3.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&block nr=0', respectively), should you want to have a direct link to the two new, alternative pages (display all the pages and use UTF-8) I've just added. Also note that, strictly, you don't have to go to Opera Mini Bookmarklets to add the bookmarklets. You can do the same by adding a new bookmark with the above contents (e.g., javascript:location.href='http://menneisyys.s156.eatj.com/om2.jsp?q='+encodeURIComponent(location.href)+'&bl ocknr=0' ). Also, you can name your bookmark anything - not strictly Copy Page Text. __________________ MS MVP- Mobile Devices.