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Originally posted by Jwilker
So he's not the god of love but the god of I told you so, ha ha suffer. I could reveal myself to you and instantly have a faithful but I'd rather you suffer mwa ha ha ha?
I get it right?
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No, you get it very wrong. To tell the truth, since I've answered this before I was tempted to ignore it, but since you're attacking the intentions of God, I find myself compelled to answer for the sake of those new to this thread.
It has nothing to do with him being vindictive. It has nothing to do with enjoying seeing us suffer. It does have to do with extreme arrogance, haughtiness, conceit and a total lack of humility on the part of mankind as a whole.
It's not at all like a child who grabs some cookies. It's more like an idiot teenager who tells a loving father to go to and stuff it.
We raise a child. We do the best we can. We teach laws, morals, principles. He becomes a teenager. He falls in with the wrong crowd. He's haughty. He thinks he knows everything. He thinks he's bulletproof. He cusses us out daily and tells us where to go and endangers the other members of the household. He tells us he doesn't have to follow our rules (despite the fact that we're paying the bills and own the house) and causes problems every day. He tells us, his parents who have raised him, he doesn't need us, doesn't love us, doesn't want us. Finally he decides to rebel and leave (or he is kicked out of the house for being too divisive).
What, we're supposed to bail him out of the inevitable trouble he's getting himself into? That's going to help him learn what it means to be responsible for his own actions? That's going to teach him humility and cool his rebelliousness.
No. He reaps what he sows. As long as he continues to exhibit that attitude, he has no right to expect his parents to have anything to do with him. They didn't disown him-- he disowned them. And if he calls and says, "Dad, I got drunk and they threw me in jail. Come and bail me out,"... the dad will likely let this little rebellious twit STAY in jail.
Now, if years later, the boy starts to wise up, if he starts to clean up his life and he calls his father and says, "Dad, I was wrong. I'm sorry for the way I acted. Can we set things right between us?" then... if he's truly repentant, he may be accepted back into the family. But it won't be the father who's expected to conform to the boy's twisted views. It will be the boy who will be required to conform to the right views of the father.
Mankind in general has told God, the Father to take a hike. God, like Jeep pointed out, said, "OK, you're on your own. Give me a call if your attitude changes." But man's attitude hasn't changed. And to expect God to appear before your disbelieving attitude and say, "Hey, I'm here, what hoop do you want me to jump through" when he's already given plenty of evidence and plenty of people to point out that evidence, is unrealistic.
It's not surprising that you don't understand the viewpoints of God. You don't believe the Bible and you're the rebellious teenager. You don't understand the views of the Father. Maybe someday you will, but right now, you think you're right. Those of us who have already been there, done that, learned differently know better, but we can't tell you anything, because, well, you know how teenagers are.
Now, that's not a personal insult. It's just an illustration, applied to our current situation. It may help explain things. I hope so.