I've tried a few from
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities...managers.shtml but haven't fallen in love yet. You have my sympathy on the wisbar issues... there's a lot of fluff that's quite pretty but it adds too many quirks. I've actually gone back to just the non-cascading world and useing MagicButton to handle my tasks. As a software developer I should probably get off my butt and delve into the world of menuing systems but, hey, that beer over there looks quite tasty right now :) Good luck in your hunt!