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Originally Posted by netsyd
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I assume this in on a Wm2003se device? The best I can see is about 31-32 MB on a WM5 device immediately after a hard reset.
Running with 17MB is pretty low I agree, and likely has a lot to do with the stuff in the background as you mentioned, but I think running on 32-35MB free on a WM5 device is nearly impossible right now.
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No, with WM5 you can get (and keep) 32-35MB if you're not running more than 4-5 Today Plugins, assuming 64MB of RAM, which is standard on the x51's, as well as the HP hx2000 series... and pretty much every other non-upgraded WM5 devices I can think of, according to reviews. Upgraded WM2003SE devices are where this problem seems to come into play, and especially with the x50v machines as Dell buggered up the installation images. Either they're loading a LOT of unnecessary junk in the background, or else the x50v doesn't physically have the 64MB of RAM claimed by Dell. Given the way it's crashing on x50 machines, I'm betting that they've got a lot of unnecessary services running in the background causing conflicts that bring the machine to a virtual halt after a few hours of use.
Most of the problems with the x51's have not been with WM5 specifically, so much as the BT stack and the various other things that Dell didn't bother tweaking when they started selling the x51's. Otherwise, they TEND to be stable... outside of the vanishing CF slot, the vanishing SD slot, the occasional ActiveSync-driven quick-battery-drain, and so on. Well, at least half of the x51 users here don't seem to have the 'world ending' issues that were mentioned above. I'm starting to wonder if these all have the same lot numbers...
Also see if ClearType is enabled - if it is, turn it off to save about 500-800K of RAM. Also ensure that ActiveSync is turned off - it takes about 1-2MB of RAM for me.
EDIT: Correction: The Treo 700w and the HP rx1950 only have 32MB of RAM, which means that they usually run with 11-12MB of RAM free on average. Otherwise, most machines with WM5 I'm aware of have 64MB.. and pretty much every review I've seen states that they'll start with 30+ MB of RAM free, something which I can attest to personally.