Seven Reasons Why the New iPhone Sucks

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Seven Reasons Why the New iPhone Sucks

Look before you leap before buying the new iPhone. This is the iPhone that all of us have been waiting for. It promised to address the deficiencies of the first generation iPhone, but does it really?

[stevenator65]

Great read.

[spunker88]

This makes a lot of good points.

Wm phones can do all 7 of those things if you get the right one.
Axims can almost do all of them, and they are getting old.

I could have used this a few weeks ago when asked why wm ppcs/phones are better than the iphone. I knew a few off the top of my head, but not all 7.

[paulcb]

As a long time X51v owner/user, I have to agree that WM devices can do a lot more that the iPhone, especially for those of us that like to tweak them. Not so much for the general public though. Also, the display on the iPhone and the Touch is far superior to anything I've seen on any other mobile device that's near that size. In full disclosure though, I'm seriously considering purchasing the iPhone unless the Omnia comes to AT&T soon with 3G. I was really considering the Tilt but the smaller/uglier screen, device thickness and bad video have kept me away from it. Plus, I really don't need a keyboard, tilt or not.

[jdigitL]

i wholehartedly disagree and ill comment on each "misunderstanding"

1. the iphone is no more expensive to own than any windows mobile phone. in fact in some cases, it may be cheaper. my iphone cost hundreds of dollars less than the htc tytn II i purchased when it came out. it was also less expensive than the hp phones, and the eten i had a while back. and when i initially purchased the first iphone, my unlimited data plan went down $15. how is that more expensive?

2. the iphone has a beautiful and FAST version of google maps installed from the factory. a version of google maps that windows mobile will never be able to reproduce, no matter how many hours the devs spend trying to make the wm interface like that of the apple. the new firmware allows for your current location to be centered on the map. eventually the iphone will have a true gps app, im sure. but for now im not complaining. maps on the iphone is amazing, and you must try it out. integration with other apps, contacts and the ui is just amazing.

3. you CAN tether your iphone, or you can turn your iphone into a hotspot with apps available through the app store. see netshare

4. no cut and paste no cut and paste. this is not a reason to want to lynch the iphoneiacs and their devices. cut and paste wil be here before you know it.

5.the camera for the iphone is great. this is no canon slr. its a phone for god sakes. you have the ability to take a relatively high res shot (with one hand) and fire it out to your flickr account or an email all in seconds. try doing that without a stylus and in less than a minute on a wm device.

6.ok, no stereo bluetooth. big deal. i dont use bluetooth headsets, nor do i use bluetooth headphones. when i do use the iphone for music i have a nice set of earbuds. call me old fashioned.

7.theres no flash for wm yet either. browsers are all racing to get native flash, but have yet to provide anything but youtube videos. and getting flash to work on a wm device requires a few conversations with someone like Werner Ruotsalainen or the guys over at xda devs. anyone who is not a geek who spends hours tinkering will know how to do this, nor will they want to spend the time to get it to work and only sort of.

im sure flash will come to mobile devices eventually, but this is a moot point and in my opinion doesnt take from the iphones far superiority.

so theres my counter points.

just so you guys know. ive been using pdas and smartphones/pocket pcs since the days of the newton and green screened palms. ive been involved in the pocket pc community for some time, and i love gadgets and devices. i dont believe its healthy to get religious about brands or devices. so the point of my post was to clarify that propaganda like that of the linked "blog" is just a waste of space on the internet.

go out and check out an iphone. if your used to the soft resets and the sluggish performance of windows mobile, youll be amazed by the stability, expandability, style and everything else about the iphone.

just so everyone knows, i will be getting a touch pro when it comes out, but ill probably always have the iphone in my pocket

jd

[Cybrid]

Bought the wife a 32Gb Touch and personally carry the Axim + HTC Touch.
Apple can keep their pretty crap.

[psionandy]

Some very good points... and some not so good ones there.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

i wholehartedly disagree and ill comment on each "misunderstanding"

1. the iphone is no more expensive to own than any windows mobile phone. in fact in some cases, it may be cheaper. my iphone cost hundreds of dollars less than the htc tytn II i purchased when it came out. it was also less expensive than the hp phones, and the eten i had a while back. and when i initially purchased the first iphone, my unlimited data plan went down $15. how is that more expensive?

It does depend on current market conditions... but at the moment in the UK the numbers work out about the same for an iPhone and an HTC Diamond/Samsung Omnia.

Blackberries can be had for a lot less, but the iPhone = lots more money myth is well and truely busted over here.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

2. the iphone has a beautiful and FAST version of google maps installed from the factory. a version of google maps that windows mobile will never be able to reproduce, no matter how many hours the devs spend trying to make the wm interface like that of the apple. the new firmware allows for your current location to be centered on the map. eventually the iphone will have a true gps app, im sure. but for now im not complaining. maps on the iphone is amazing, and you must try it out. integration with other apps, contacts and the ui is just amazing.

No... this one isn't quite as true.... I did have to download google maps from google, but it's as fast as the iphone and certainly as nice. And works great with true GPS

Originally Posted by jdigitL

3. you CAN tether your iphone, or you can turn your iphone into a hotspot with apps available through the app store. see netshare

B

Been up, down, is it back now? well anyway it's certainly possible and do-able.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

4. no cut and paste no cut and paste. this is not a reason to want to lynch the iphoneiacs and their devices. cut and paste wil be here before you know it

I think it's scheduled for the iPhone 4G It's probably the reason why there aren't any great wordprocessing apps on the iphone. That and the lack of BT keyboard support.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

5.the camera for the iphone is great. this is no canon slr. its a phone for god sakes. you have the ability to take a relatively high res shot (with one hand) and fire it out to your flickr account or an email all in seconds. try doing that without a stylus and in less than a minute on a wm device.

er... I can do it onehanded and I do. so that ones a tie...

Originally Posted by jdigitL

6.ok, no stereo bluetooth. big deal. i dont use bluetooth headsets, nor do i use bluetooth headphones. when i do use the iphone for music i have a nice set of earbuds. call me old fashioned.

You're old fashioned Wires are so 20th Century

Stereo earbuds are great. I have a Jabra that connects via bluetooth. I can plug any headphones i like into it. My phone lives in my pocket and I can make calls, change volume, forward/back without picking up my phone. It's such a user friendly 'apple-ish' feature I'm amazed they don't do it. I certainly wouldn't buy a nokia/SE/Samsung/WM phone that wouldn't do this.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

7.theres no flash for wm yet either. browsers are all racing to get native flash, but have yet to provide anything but youtube videos. and getting flash to work on a wm device requires a few conversations with someone like Werner Ruotsalainen or the guys over at xda devs. anyone who is not a geek who spends hours tinkering will know how to do this, nor will they want to spend the time to get it to work and only sort of.

im sure flash will come to mobile devices eventually, but this is a moot point and in my opinion doesnt take from the iphones far superiority..[/quote]

I was with you on that one, right until you said the word 'superiority'.. Substitute it for 'advantages' and you have a valid point (there are advantages to symbian phones, and windows mobile phones as well)


so theres my counter points.

Originally Posted by jdigitL

dont believe its healthy to get religious about brands or devices. so the point of my post was to clarify that propaganda like that of the linked "blog" is just a waste of space on the internet.

go out and check out an iphone. if your used to the soft resets and the sluggish performance of windows mobile, youll be amazed by the stability, expandability, style and everything else about the iphone.

just so everyone knows, i will be getting a touch pro when it comes out, but ill probably always have the iphone in my pocket

jd

Its about getting the right tool for the job for the person... Sure check out the iPhone. It's not the world dominating super phone killer that some people claim it to be... it's not the devil incarnate either. All platforms have problems and strengths. iPhone is no exception.

The Samsung Omnia looks like it would appeal to people who want an iPhone without those 7 problems though.

[Julie]

I'm all for a healthy debate and comparison of mobile devices, but I have a problem with anything that is titled with the word "suck" in it. Most articles like that throw out a bunch of poorly researched and documented "factoids" that are easily disputed by others.

Neither the iPhone or Windows Mobile devices 'suck.' Both have their positive attributes and both have their deficiencies. Furthermore, one person's definition of a perfect device might not even close to addressing another person's requirements.

I don't have an iPhone, have never really seen one except as a passing glance, and it was pretty easy for me to pick apart the poorly researched points in that blog article...in all honesty I am weary with all the oneupmanship going on between the advocates of both devices. I own several windows mobile devices and love my gadgets..I am neutral about the iPhone and will remain neutral unless and until I have an opportunity to put one through it paces and see for myself what its strengths and weaknesses are. Even then my assessment would be subjective, based on my needs and expectations.

[johnhu_2005]

Yes, Julie is right.

[jdigitL]

Originally Posted by johnhu_2005

Yes, Julie is right.

as usual... what would we do without Julie?

[CodeBubba]

Well said, Julie. There is, indeed, too much of this "my device is great and yours 'sucks'". Good post. (yours)

-CB

[TomH123]

You're reaching a bit on a couple of your counter points.



1. the iphone is no more expensive to own than any windows mobile phone. in fact in some cases, it may be cheaper. my iphone cost hundreds of dollars less than the htc tytn II i purchased when it came out. it was also less expensive than the hp phones, and the eten i had a while back. and when i initially purchased the first iphone, my unlimited data plan went down $15. how is that more expensive?


The Tilt only costs $200 so I'm curious how many hundreds less you paid. Not sure what data plan you were using before but the iPhone uses the same data plan that the Tilt is supposed to use at $30/mon (I'm getting away with the $20 plan on my Tilt). So on the data plan it's a wash.


2. the iphone has a beautiful and FAST version of google maps installed from the factory. a version of google maps that windows mobile will never be able to reproduce, no matter how many hours the devs spend trying to make the wm interface like that of the apple. the new firmware allows for your current location to be centered on the map. eventually the iphone will have a true gps app, im sure. but for now im not complaining. maps on the iphone is amazing, and you must try it out. integration with other apps, contacts and the ui is just amazing.

Google maps seems pretty fast on my Tilt but I'll conceed that point since I haven't seen what "faster: might look like. As for the new firmware allowing for your current location to be centered on the map, are you just referring to the fact that it finally has a built-in GPS that allows for that? I wouldn't consider that a firmware issue but any GPS enabled phone has that capability and has for quite a while.


4. no cut and paste no cut and paste. this is not a reason to want to lynch the iphoneiacs and their devices. cut and paste wil be here before you know it.

But it is a drawback. iPhoneiacs critisize WM for a lot less.

5.the camera for the iphone is great. this is no canon slr. its a phone for god sakes. you have the ability to take a relatively high res shot (with one hand) and fire it out to your flickr account or an email all in seconds. try doing that without a stylus and in less than a minute on a wm device.

No phone is a Cannon slr so in my opinion they're all pretty much useless. I'd rather not have a camera and pay less.

6.ok, no stereo bluetooth. big deal. i dont use bluetooth headsets, nor do i use bluetooth headphones. when i do use the iphone for music i have a nice set of earbuds. call me old fashioned.

Oh, well... if you don't use Bluetooth then you're right, it's no big deal. Just like the fact that I don't care for the iPhone UI so that's not an important factor either.

[jdigitL]

1. i have an oem htc tytn II NOT an att tilt

2. try it, youll see what im talking about

3 (your 4). your right

4 (your 5). a lot of people use the camera functionality of a phone for business and personal reasons. i think it works great for both. im with you tho, i dont use it at all

5... no bluetooth for me indeed. im sure this pisses someone out there off that spent $$ on bluetooth gear

[psionandy]

Ok, I've now played with the iphone maps, over 3G and I will concede they are very shiny and pretty.

Not faster, not better, not more featured... but they are shinier.

[Frenchy]

I have had many devices too including Blackberry devices (7250 and Pearl) I love the full keyboard of the Axim and later the 7250. I struggled with the Pearl little K9 pad but eventually got used to it. Now the touch keyboard of the iPhone is a great combo of the Axim and the BB 7250. I like it better and so far after only a few days the iPhone is the best Smartphone/PDA I have own so far regardless of the few options and flaws. Remember that they all had flaws that were corrected overtime. Apple was able to minimize them and offer something above many expectations.