Pocket Hack Master and x51v

SiGriffin · 01-13-06, 03:37 AM

Does anyone use Pocket Hack Master with their x51v? I need to squeeze a few more cycles out of DOSBox to make Ultima VII playable!

I downloaded the trial version of PHM, but it says that the x51v is an unknown device and then when I attempt the speed tests, the fastest it has listed is only 624MHz... not very useful. I've read that the x50v can certainly go higher than that.

I'll probably give XCPUScaler a go next.

ataren · 01-13-06, 10:41 PM

I played with PHM for a few days with my x51v (A04, at the time). I had a lot of problems with the battery, memory, and speed displays disappearing and shifting; not it's most important features, but features I wanted to use. I had a few problems uninstalling it completely, too.

I tried XCPUScaler next. It's not without its warts, but it worked better on my x51v, was simpler to use, and was significantly less expensive. When the load is above 55%, I'm pushing it to 663MHz. It'll let you take it to 728MHz, but I'm not in that big a hurry (and chicken).

I've been using XCPUScaler for about a month with no problems. It doesn't have battery/memory displays, but does have power off and soft reset icons for the Today screen (which I like a lot). I'm using vBar for the battery/memory displays and task switching.

SiGriffin · 01-15-06, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the post. I'll download xcpuscaler next time I'm on my desktop.

darkdestroyer · 01-15-06, 05:43 PM

I've taken mine up to 728Mhz....ahhh it sure is fine (Nothing ever happened to it.)

Xcilion · 01-15-06, 06:07 PM

Hmmz, i wouldn't spend a dime on XCPUSCALAR if i where you. I've heard at various sites that it only 'really' overclocks when the device is connected to external power. At first i didn't belief this, but the developers then CONFIRMED this!
What a waste of money it was for me then (i bought XCPUScaler, and after that the more reliable PHM).
I'd say stick with PHM and contact the developer regarding this. His support is excellent :).

ataren · 01-16-06, 03:21 PM

Contrary to my experience, so far. Please post a link to this confirmation. I'd really interested in seeing it.

karmalized · 01-19-06, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by ataren

I played with PHM for a few days with my x51v (A04, at the time). I had a lot of problems with the battery, memory, and speed displays disappearing and shifting; not it's most important features, but features I wanted to use. I had a few problems uninstalling it completely, too.

I tried XCPUScaler next. It's not without its warts, but it worked better on my x51v, was simpler to use, and was significantly less expensive. When the load is above 55%, I'm pushing it to 663MHz. It'll let you take it to 728MHz, but I'm not in that big a hurry (and chicken).

I've been using XCPUScaler for about a month with no problems. It doesn't have battery/memory displays, but does have power off and soft reset icons for the Today screen (which I like a lot). I'm using vBar for the battery/memory displays and task switching.

hey there ataren,

I just bought XCPUSCALAR for my x51v, and basically nothing works. I am on the new A06 rom, and am wondering if you can have it work upon startup? When I try it, it freezes my ax.

When I set it to auto-scale, it sticks at 624 even though I can watch a taskmanager program and see my CPU go below %10.

I really would like to know how to get this to work with the x51v. I would like to have it scale down my CPU. Not too interested in anything over 624.

ataren · 01-22-06, 02:51 AM

First of all, make sure you've got version 2.93 (the latest, as of this writing). I've attached screen caps of the Speed and Advanced settings screens that work for me.
The basic idea is to minimize the CPU clock when the device is idle (to extend battery life), but kick it into higher speeds as the load increases. So, I've got it set low only for CPU loads below 5%, otherwise it will be very sluggish whenever you first start anything, which is probably what you're experiencing.

You didn't mention what task manager you are using, but it's probably showing you CPU load, not speed; so when it says 10%, it is not an indication of the CPU speed.

To keep it running at startup and soft reset, go into the File menu and check "Auto Start on Soft Reset" and also "Minimize on Start".

Xcilion · 01-22-06, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by ataren

Contrary to my experience, so far. Please post a link to this confirmation. I'd really interested in seeing it.

You want proof?
Check it out here!

Same experience with me. When using PHM Betaplayer and other applications which can show processor speed, show the speed i configured with PHM. With XCPUscalar, nothing changes. No performance, no indication in apps, no nothing. Pure waste of money!

I know it's a long thread but it's full of proof that XCPUscalar fakes.

This is what Immiersoft (XCPUScalar makers) says about the fake overclock:
"Because of the builtin speed stepping functionality that is built into these family of PDA's when XCPUScalar is set to 520MHz, the builtin speed utility usually resets it back to 416MHz when its on battery power. Unfortunately there is no interface to disable this that the manufacturer provides. So to get true 520MHz overclocking for these family of PDA's with XCPUScalar please attach AC power to your PDA and you will get true 520MHZ overclocking."

I'm repeating myself. It's pure junk and the developers 'agree'.

karmalized · 01-22-06, 12:19 PM

Basically, the last few days, I have been playing with xcpuscalar and PHM, and I just can't get xcpuscalar to do anything. PHM is actually working, but just takes a while to get the hang of it.

With Xcpuscalar, it only works on battery. Ok that is nice, but I want the program to work off of the CPU not the batter.
If I set it to auto-start after a reset, it totally locks up my device upon boot. So auto-start is out of the question.
The only way I can get it to auto-scale is to start the program after boot, and only within the CPU cycles 104 MHZ to 624 MHZ. If I try to set it above 628, it locks up requiring a reset.

So in my experience xcpuscalar is completely worthless as on my axim x51v it just doesn't work. I am trying to work on getting a refund before it is too late. I will wait for anton tomov to get a WM5 version working.

P.S. The current version of PHM works, but just looks really bad on WM5.

ataren · 01-22-06, 09:15 PM

Now I understand; it's overclocking that supposedly doesn't work on battery (with XCPUScaler). It does seem to properly down-clock based on the selected load settings, which is mostly what I was looking for to reduce battery drain. I haven't really tried pushing it much over 624MHz and doubt the difference between 624MHz and 663MHz (my max setting) would be noticeable. I also haven't experienced the severe problems Jay is reporting. May be an interaction with other utilities.

You've really got my attention, though, so I've just gotten a hold of Spb Benchmark and I'm going to check it out. The benchmarks at the link you provided were from a different device and an older version of XCPUScaler. For now, Immier will be innocent until proven guilty, but if he's faking the overclock display on battery, I'm really going to be ticked off and will definitely seek a refund. I really don't care so much about overclocking, but I hate being lied to. Thanks for the info.

karmalized · 01-23-06, 12:24 PM

Hey there,

I just returned XCPUSCALAR after working all weekend to get it do to ANY function it advertises, but failed. I am waiting to see if Pocket Hack Master will come out with a WM5 supported app soon.

Xcilion · 01-23-06, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by ataren

You've really got my attention, though, so I've just gotten a hold of Spb Benchmark and I'm going to check it out. The benchmarks at the link you provided were from a different device and an older version of XCPUScaler. For now, Immier will be innocent until proven guilty, but if he's faking the overclock display on battery, I'm really going to be ticked off and will definitely seek a refund. I really don't care so much about overclocking, but I hate being lied to. Thanks for the info.

Old version or not, Immier is still guilty of lying to its customers. On their website it stated it was fully compatible with the HTC Magician (aka. Imate Jam). Faking?! Not acceptable where i come from, especially when they are charging for it.

ataren · 01-23-06, 08:24 PM

Well, the fact is that XCPUScaler works exactly as it is supposed to. Attached are the results of the benchmarks I ran today, both externally powered and on battery. The clock speed was controlled by XCPUScaler alone and the benchmark shows that even under battery power, the performance tracked exactly with the settings, even into overclock conditions.

You may not like it, or it may not work for you for whatever reason, but you cannot go around saying that XCPUScaler does nothing and Immier is faking the numbers. He clearly is not. There are so many possible combinations of applications, OSs, and devices, it is impossible to make them all work together all of the time. That's why there are evals. PHM didn't work well with my particular combination, but I'm not taking it personally. You shouldn't, either.

SiGriffin · 01-24-06, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Xcilion

I'd say stick with PHM and contact the developer regarding this. His support is excellent :).

I raised a ticket on his website a week ago and still have not had a reply, despite me updating it asking for one... so much for customer service.