sbabolat

Back with the results .... it works!

On both case: with a pair of ethernet powerline bridge (Linksys PLEBR10) and over Wifi (yep totally wifi. tested with the DLink gaming adapter in 802.11g).

the trick on that one was to avoid the Mac address of the adapter (to reach directly the NIC)-I was scared of that being the case, and I still do not know if that would work with all of the ethernet/wifi adapter- and passing through 2 router (main one and a wifi one).


Let me know if you want the specs.

Zaniax

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Let me know if you want the specs

Sure - do let's have it here, or you may PM me if you prefer

sbabolat

Here it goes.


I will not go with the specs of the MB and the NIC - plenty of sites will give you those ones.
I went into the power management of my card and ask to be awaken only for magic packets. ditto for the MB (depends on the MB .. ).

I am far away from the main router - and also far away from my second router.
here is more or less the plan:

Wan ---> cable modem ---> Linksys BEFSX41 (with 3 desktop attached) - called R1 ---> Linksys WRT54G (wifi) (with some wifi laptops attached and my desktop) - called R2

I first used a pair of linksys PLEBR10 (Ethernet bridge over the powerline) attached to R1.
Works great - my concern was about the mac address of those pair - but the R1 only sees my NIC MAC address - so no worries.
The only thing is that I lost some speed. they state 10 Mbs, but really got 2-3 at the end.
I had wifi over a usb adapter at the same time, but my computer was only taking the Ethernet as a primary connection (meaning I had to disable the Ethernet once connected - a pain).

Maybe with a faster (they make 200Mbps) it will be better ? But they are expensive (runs at 150 each).

So i thought about a wifi over the Ethernet will may do the trick ....

I grab one of the Belkin gaming adapter and tried. My concern was more about the MAC address of the Belkin being shown on the R1 or R2, instead of my NIC one.

I can not promise it will work the same way with another adapetr like that one (from Dlink or Linksys) as I only have tried with the Bel;kin.
I set it up as an ad-hoc mode, and it picked up the NIC MAC :)

Advantage of this: faster (it is a G network), no "collision and lost packets over the powerline, and it is always on (it has its own ac adapater - or even in USB powered, if you have a self powered usb hub)

Now the tricky part. I had 2 router and a dynamic address.

For the dynamis IP - I use dyndns.org (as on their site they said the update of teh ip works with teh BEFSX41.

For the port "mappage" - that was a pain .....

I found this site: Port Forwarding Behind two routers - Tech Support Guy Forums

And voila.

R1: 192.168.0.1 and DHCP at xxx.xxx.xxx.100 up to .127
(I use Liam post - Wake On LAN remotely via your broadband connection - with a LinkSys WRT54G - even if not necessary as my Ethernet adapter is always on and always picking up the address, so it is more or less a "fix" or assigned one)

I also use this great site:
Online IP Subnet Calculator to calculate the subnet and the range!

R2: plug the cat5 into one of the LAN port, and put "static ip" and disabled the DHCP server (I put a wpa key and a router password before!)
192.168.0.2 in both router address and Ip address.

I use the same subnet mask for both R1 and R2
255.255.255.128 (see Liam post about the linksys, this is why I used the .128 ending!)

So now, all of my computers can be seen under the R1, not R2. port are forwarded under R1 and that is it (I still open it on R2, as I did not knew if it would work).

My desktop is waking up through the wifi - fancy that.

Good set up if you are far away from the router, or just have a wifi one, and don't want to move the computer from one room to another.

I am using the service of www.logmein.com
they have a free service, and at least I do not bother with the windows remote desktop (and the security to set up ....). Plus they map the drives, file transfer ... I will go for their pro version.
I just turn off my computer as if I was in fron of it

Other useful resources:
Depicus

and its 2 freeware:
Depicus to monitor the packets (rather than turning off the computer and test!)
Depicus to be used to wake the computer up.


If you have a question - ask away (or reply in this post, I get emails).

Now I would like to try with the Dlink and Linksys (the same kind of adapters as the Belkin), just to check which obne is working and which is not).

Sebastien

PS: to reply from the first post - yep you can turn on this computer from an Axim device. Check Depicus website for its PPC wol utility.

sbabolat

Originally Posted by Zaniax

Sure - do let's have it here, or you may PM me if you prefer

I posted my reply this morning (PST time) and it is still not up ?
Was it because it is too long ?

S.

Julie

Originally Posted by sbabolat

I posted my reply this morning (PST time) and it is still not up ? Was it because it is too long ? S.

I just approved your earlier post. The reason the post was held for moderation is because you have a low thread count and your post included links. There is some intelligence in the forum software that holds posts from users with low thread counts and links for moderation as a way to filter out spam posts (and believe me, lots of spam gets posted here that never sees the light of day).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

julie

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Zaniax

Appreciated, Julie - :)

Zaniax

Wow, what a setup, sbabolat :)

I only got one router (R2) with two PC's and my VoIP phone plus my ax, of course.

Thanks for the information although I may have missed some fine points - but I'll try again with the 'limited' mask :)

.

sbabolat

Originally Posted by Zaniax

Wow, what a setup, sbabolat :) I only got one router (R2) with two PC's and my VoIP phone plus my ax, of course. Thanks for the information although I may have missed some fine points - but I'll try again with the 'limited' mask :) .

If you only have 1 router, it should be flawless!

The idea behind limitating the subnet, is that with the classic subnet (255.255.255.0) is that you can not forward in the linksys (WRT54G or others from linksys) to send the packets to all pcs (ie linksys does not allow you to put 192.168.x.254).

hence Liam trick: put a subnet ending in .128, and have a port open for 192.168.x.127!

Packets will be sent to all pc - the MAC address will know which computer to target (and the fact that you configured your card for that)

I have 2 router as it is not my place - and that was the easiest way to get Wifi everywhere without pulling cables.

Test the set up with the Depicus wol packets monitor - works well.

As far as wol over wifi, and as I said, I know that with the Belkin wifi/ethernet adapter it works great.
Don't know about the others.

I got mine on ebay, for 42 $.

S.