CorePlayer (worth it?) How about another media player?

garnold · 11-13-07, 10:19 AM

I'm looking for a new media player for my x51v. I have started to use PocketMusic 5.0 and it seems pretty cool. Now I found this one called CorePlayer which seems extremely functional. This one has no trial ware so I don't want to just buy it for the heck of it. Anyone have this one or could recommend another?

11-13-07, 10:35 AM

PocketMusic and CorePlayer are two different animals. PocketMusic is a MUSIC ONLY player--it doesn't do video. CorePlayer, IMHO, is the best all-around multimedia player; it's H.264 (mpeg4) video support is unmatched. It's a pretty good audio player, too, but doesn't have some features in PocketMusic like skins and streaming.

You should also look into CorePlayer's free predecessor TCPMP (great if you don't care about H.264), and free music-only players like MortPlayer, GSPlayer, and WinVibe. The latter two support streaming. I personally use a combination of MortPlayer for podcasts and CorePlayer for everything else.

dgoldring · 11-13-07, 11:42 AM

Check out COnduit's Pocket Player. It is the best all around media player.

Doug

Menneisyys · 11-13-07, 12:14 PM

Also, stay tuned as I'll soon publish my brand new Multimedia Bible :)

garnold · 11-13-07, 12:28 PM

Pocket Player looks really nice. I'm an album art junky so that looks cool. What's going to be in the Multimedia Bible Menneisyys?

betaboy · 11-13-07, 12:45 PM

We have also just added You Tube support for CorePlayer Mobile, see: CorePlayer Mobile to add YouTube Support

Also this update includes our advance RTP/RTSP and streaming module. Also to go head to head with other media player in a later 1.2.x release we will support an 'AUDIO MODE' skin... so that when you play any audio file the UI will adjust to a new audio friendly interface.

betaboy · 11-13-07, 12:52 PM

dgoldring... I admire some of the things that CPP does but for alot of us here its easy to write 'bling' software... the key is to write code in a manner that is the least resources intensive as possible (as well as making the 'core' non- OS specific). This is why we have our own micro sized ANSI C language we call "Core-C". It takes writing small fast code to a new level and why the CorePlayer platform and the embedded decoders work as fast as they do.

mphayvanh · 11-13-07, 04:15 PM

Mortplayer is hands down the best Music Player out there, especially with skin support and freeware. For video, try TCPMP. Best video software and with YouTube support as well.

I purchased Coreplayer because I wanted to support the developers and for the use of TCPMP for years. However, I've been so disappointed with the software and find myself using TCPMP more and more. The worst part, the skins document has been out for sometime and I don't see anyone posting new skins. It's probaly too hard for even skinners to follow or the software is being bought but not used (like myself).

garnold · 11-13-07, 04:36 PM

I just took a look at Mortplayer and I can't believe it is free? I have to check their site and see if they take donations if I deside to use it. Their vista like skin is very sweet. I still have to try some others yet but this is looking rather nice.

spunker88 · 11-13-07, 08:18 PM

Tcpmp is the abandoned freeware version of coreplayer. It plays many formats, and with a plugin from mobytube.com it can play youtube, google video, etc. Mobytube makes tcpmp is a must. And if u like it since its from the makers of coreplayer, and its abandoned get coreplayer one the bugs are worked out. Which sounds like soon, with integrated youtube support in their product.

spunker88 · 11-13-07, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by betaboy

dgoldring... I admire some of the things that CPP does but for alot of us here its easy to write 'bling' software... the key is to write code in a manner that is the least resources intensive as possible (as well as making the 'core' non- OS specific). This is why we have our own micro sized ANSI C language we call "Core-C". It takes writing small fast code to a new level and why the CorePlayer platform and the embedded decoders work as fast as they do.

Definetly a lesson for all software users to go by. This is why i like tcpmp and coreplayer. Also, most open source programs seem to be written the same.

I have used tcpmp (windows version) to turn older pcs that froze or skipped in wmp, into multimedia machines thanks to tcpmp. Its light on resources (you wont believe how old a pc is and it still works on it) and it acutually plays nice.

betaboy · 11-13-07, 08:37 PM

We learned alot when writing TCPMP... while ppl think CorePlayer is the same thing... it really isn't... but the concepts on what it was vs what CP is, holds true... next year this will be more evident when our open source BetaPlayer is released.

betaboy · 11-13-07, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by dgoldring

Check out COnduit's Pocket Player. It is the best all around media player.

Doug

Originally Posted by mphayvanh

Mortplayer is hands down the best Music Player out there, especially with skin support and freeware. For video, try TCPMP. Best video software and with YouTube support as well.

I purchased Coreplayer because I wanted to support the developers and for the use of TCPMP for years. However, I've been so disappointed with the software and find myself using TCPMP more and more. The worst part, the skins document has been out for sometime and I don't see anyone posting new skins. It's probaly too hard for even skinners to follow or the software is being bought but not used (like myself).

Well you will not see skins as its NOT enabled on the user interface yet... this does not mean you can't write them now, its just that the entire UI as it stands now will be changing when we release CorePlayer with CoreUI 2.0 our SVG interface.

On updates and fixes.... as we approach 1.5 we will have the ability to PUSH updates in realtime as they become available. This should eliminate the issues of perceptive time between release, At the moment we are hundreds of builds ahead from what is publically available and likely it will be at least 200+ more with then next few weeks before we launch 1.2.

11-14-07, 12:09 AM

I use Coreplayer and Mortplayer together. Unless the player can play 320kbps MP3 files @ under 208MHz on the Ax, don't even talk to me. Just don't make me carry more extra batteries for your music player that is more fitted to play on the cradle..

Ragart · 11-14-07, 12:18 AM

My big, cow-sized beef with Coreplayer at the moment is that it just won't play music well on my TyTN. I skip very badly upon switching orientations or after a phone call. I've played with all the settings I could get my hands on, but to no avail. I've listed it as a bug on their forums and their official bug tracker but have received no response after about 1.5 months.

CC will release posts like the one above, and the ones on their own forums. And they will say they've answered questions -- but in my eyes the information can be quite

scattered. I think that CC feels they've been updating the community although they are busy with the testing of their Symbian platform, their codec, their desktop platforms, etc.

etc.

That's a lot of launches, a lot of diff development. I'm no developer, but I am one of their customers. And I just have no idea when I'll see any of this new, cool stuff that applies to me.

Coreplayer 1.0 for Windows Mobile was released last September, I think. This last summer around July saw the release of 1.1. I was extremely impressed with the amount of feeback and care that CC showed the community after the release. We were talking and they listened to feature requests and bugs. They released a 1.1.1 soon after. But then came the time to test

the Symbian beta and I've since left the CC forums (occasional check) for lack of any real new information.

I think CC and the community would get along a lot better if there was a central location for information useful to the community. I have to say it stung when Betaboy posted an iPhone Coreplayer ad in

the Windows Mobile section of the CC forums. I mean, it's his place -- he can do what he wants. But as a customer, I bought Coreplayer to get a cool, evolving media player and have heard all these promises -- but most of what I see heads in other directions. I feel that in the past few months having a conversation with Corecodec has been like sending a letter in the mail and getting a banner ad as a reply. Everything is huge, broad, sweeping, and I miss the days of this past summer where 1.1.1 came out about a week after 1.1 did.

In the meantime I'm going to buy Pocket Player 3.5 -- it's not as fast as CC, nor does it have the ridiculous number of great codecs, but it has a nice finger-friendly interface, great album art support, and it plays my music consistently without chopping up.

I look forward to Coreplayer 1.2 and the bug fixes, but it'd be fantastic if we could have some real, down-to-earth updates on the Windows Mobile situation.