It is perfectly OK for different people to like and dislike different things. It is called individuality. It is useful to have the reasons for those preferences described, though. After all, not everyone has tried all the alternatives and is capable of making a fully informed decision.
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I need my Tilt to run fast and smooth, so that my office productivity doesn't suffer, and so far, I don't see a problem with slowness as others have reported.
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I think Pocket Informant will remain the premier PIM application in 2008!
That's the point, what is good for a phone application is not necessarily good for a pda application. Hopefully PI will recognize this and provide an interface that works well for both.
Well, v8.01 is already out. The two biggest problems I had with original release seem to be fixed now - i.e. the Classic (toolbar) menu is back, and the time selection dropdown is now enabled. I sort of miss the old style dialogs for time selection and item editing. The older dialogs were more compact & easier to use & navigate (for me, at least) but that's not too important. Speedwise v8 is exactly the same as v7 - yes I did time it. 10 sec to open PI Agenda in a single day view with 2 meetings and 8 tasks.
I guess now I have 2 weeks to play with it & see if the new features justify the upgrade.
Hmm ... OK, now maybe I'll give it a look. I guess I can always re-install 2007 if I don't like it.
<edit> Boy that was quick. I installed it - started playing with it. Crashed twice (with nasty shut-down message) in 3 uses. Think I'll stay with 2007 awhile.
The speed is not an issue for me. I was using Microsoft outlook with Business Contact Manager, and it literally took one minute thirty seconds to open. I dreaded opening it when I needed a quick phone number. Waiting 2-5 seconds, heck, even 10 seconds, is a pleasure.
Then I'd be thinking of using something else. No features are worth waiting that long.
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I found a year or so ago that PocketBreeze solves most of my day-to-day usage issues. I'd switch to POL before having to wait 10 sec every time I need to look up some info or add a meeting. In a real life situation, with a dozen people waiting for you, that's just too long.
So far I haven't made up my mind, yet. I think I'll stick with 2007 for the time being. Unlike the last release this one does have some real new features, unfortunately they don't seem too useful for me. Most of these new features are in one-hand navigation enhancements, that I don't use. The events view is a nice touch but not enough to justify an upgrade, the same can easily be done with categories & custom views in PI2007. The journal improvements would make me jump with joy 3 years ago but I am not using Journal anymore, it never synced well and it's really not the right way to store lots of information, at least for me. I don't care much for Franklin Covey related enhancements and if I did I'd use ListPro or similar to capture my goals and such, this sort of stuff really doesn't belong in PIM. Besides, you can't sync it anyway without buying FC's expensive and buggy add-on to Outlook.
The problem is, as any good developer they are faced with a dilemma, how do you jam all those great features in a product in 2005 yet sell another version in 2007 and yet another in 2008 ? Where do you take PI - do you make it best suited for a quick one hand navigation on a phone-based device, do you make it into a strictly 1PIM, do you make it into a database / PIM (sort of jack of all trades app), etc etc. This really depends on what the majority of users want. I can only speak for myself.
I would rather have no added features and some significant speed improvement, or foolproof synchronization with Outlook, potentially bypassing AS. As it stands now, PI's a bit too slow on startup for me to use it as my main scheduling application, and AS / Journal sync are just too unreliable to use PI / Outlook combo as my main information gathering / high level planning tool (and the features are somewhat lacking, try to quickly navigate through several dozen meeting notes in PI). So, ever since I switched to WM5 and ran into startup speed issues, PI was relegated to (1) providing templating capabilities to PocketBreeze, (2) maintaining a global task list (with high level project-based issue planning done primarily in ListPro), and (3) looking up monthly schedule. For all of that, PI2008 adds no value compared to 2007. Of course, YMMV.
I did try Agenda Fusion, it has same speed issues (actually seems slower on my machine than PI), and doesn't have its features (of course I may be too used to PI-specific stuff).
I'd say, for me an improvement in startup speed to 4 sec or better would be the main thing worth an upgrade. All other features are already in PI2007. Some feature improvements in Templates (e.g. saving a template with predefined links) would be nice but hardly essential. For now I think I'd stick with 2007.
Again, all of this is my personal preference. YMMV.
At this point I just want the thing to work, that's it. Though I'm a developer I am not a "sophisticated" user - I don't have 3 businesses I'm trying to track, sales meetings to attend and a bunch of other stuff. Even basic Pocket Outlook is *actually* enough for my needs but the additional features of the calendar and the ability for it to handle rich-text in the notes section of the task list, etc. is really what I need. I only upgraded to PI2007 because my dear old Ax (WM2003SE) died and PI5 was better suited for 2003SE.
I've spent a lot of time fiddling with software over the years - I'm getting to the point now where I just want it to work so, at least for now, I'm staying put.
The current (at this point in time) FTF for PocketInformant is HERE.
I find the ability to use templates and to have additional options for recurring tasks and appointments above and beyond the base PIM functions makes PocketInformant very worthwhile for me.
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WebIS should take a long hard look at themselves and ask if they should have released PI8 at this time.
I have been using it for 3 days and it is nothing short of a joke. The issues that people are experiencing should have been ironed out weeks, if not months, ago.
All that has come from WebIS over the last few days and nights has been them fobbing off every failure of PI as "someone else's" problem because, and I quote "we haven't been seeing that". Well their customers are seeing "that" and the customer is (nearly) always correct. A phrase that WebIS would do well to take note of.
The amount of people suffering serious problems with PI8 would be enough to trigger a product recall in any other form of retail but not in this sadly. It doesn't take a genius to look at these problems and realise that the reason they are happening is because people have been installing PI8 on their devices. That is the one common denominator.
If you haven't already done so, and are considering upgrading to PI8, then I would strongly advise you to check out the WebIS forums before making your minds up.
Anyway over.
non
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I have the latest build but that is not the point I am trying to make. I am just giving my thoughts on what has been, undeniably, a tainted launch and a very poor start to the life of a software package that has been delayed and delayed so that it was just right, when it is plainly anything but just right.
A paying customer deserves better, much, much better IMHO. And of course it is only my opinion.
non
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To be fair to WebIS, I did not face the problems that many here brought out. Maybe I was fortunate. I do use PI heavily everyday. It is absolutely the essential software for me and my buddies.
Hnadango did WebIS a disfavour by jumping the guna dn released early with a corrupted file. This caused many unhappiness. I took my time and got mine during the official release. Now with 8.01, it is even better.
WebIS should take a long hard look at themselves and ask if they should have released PI8 at this time.
I have been using it for 3 days and it is nothing short of a joke. The issues that people are experiencing should have been ironed out weeks, if not months, ago.
All that has come from WebIS over the last few days and nights has been them fobbing off every failure of PI as "someone else's" problem because, and I quote "we haven't been seeing that". Well their customers are seeing "that" and the customer is (nearly) always correct. A phrase that WebIS would do well to take note of.
The amount of people suffering serious problems with PI8 would be enough to trigger a product recall in any other form of retail but not in this sadly. It doesn't take a genius to look at these problems and realise that the reason they are happening is because people have been installing PI8 on their devices. That is the one common denominator.
If you haven't already done so, and are considering upgrading to PI8, then I would strongly advise you to check out the WebIS forums before making your minds up.
Anyway over.
non
Originally Posted by nonentity
I have the latest build but that is not the point I am trying to make. I am just giving my thoughts on what has been, undeniably, a tainted launch and a very poor start to the life of a software package that has been delayed and delayed so that it was just right, when it is plainly anything but just right.
A paying customer deserves better, much, much better IMHO. And of course it is only my opinion.
non
Your My PDA shows you use Agenda Fusion as your PIM, correct?
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