Nintendo 64 For Pocket Pc

[geek630]

I have a question, why can they make great emulators for the pocke pc like, nes,snes,ps1,gb,gba, and all those things but not make a nintendo 64 emulator for the pocket pc i dont get it they made ps1 available so why cant they make n64 available for pocket pcs? can someone tell me why?

[awdark]

Would you like to program it?

The other thing is the complexity behind it. We obviously know we cant emulate PS2 on the pocket pc because it needs too much power. The N64 is a 64 bit system which is double the PSX or GBA. And if you have played GBA or PSX on the ppc recently you will recall that it runs at about half the normal speed ~15fps instead of the 30fps.

IMO, all the ppc is good for is emulating SNES and below. It wont even do GBA properly. I think my next PPC will be a tiny PC instead...

[geek630]

no i dont want to program it all i know in programing is java but thanks anyways

[Drahcir]

I'm not much of a programmer, so I couldn't do it but I can't see why a Axim x51v couldn't run a N64 emulator. The biggest problem would be the controls, but speed shouldn't be much of an issue if programmed correctly.

I've ran Zelda 64 on a 533Mhz, 64MB desktop PC with an onboard GPU, so I'll be very surpised if it couldn't run on an Axim.

[MSAgent]

It's not even possible to run SEGA Genesis, why would we be enable to run Nintendo64, a far more complex system?

[puppyfriend]

What? I've been running SEGA Genesis on my Pocket PCs since my original 200Mhz iPaq. Even on that, it was pretty much real time.

It's not even possible to run SEGA Genesis, why would we be enable to run Nintendo64, a far more complex system?

[nosatalian]

A 612Mhz StrongARM machine like the Dell x50v is NO WHERE near the performance of an equivalently clocked Pentium II/III. You can't compare across vastly different architectures with just clock speed. The 612Mhz XScale is probably about equivalent to a Pentium I 233Mhz.

[MSAgent]

What? I've been running SEGA Genesis on my Pocket PCs since my original 200Mhz iPaq. Even on that, it was pretty much real time.

Sorry I mean at acceptable framerates.

Currently you need to turn off the sound or suffer horrible framerates and you can't play it fullscreen or it will choke, plus many games have serious graphical issues. If you tell me about an emulator that runs Sonic 1-3 pretty much flawless at acceptable framerate with some sound in sync then please let me know. A cheap GP2x will run it far better.

Yeah PPCs are far less powerfull than any desktop processor at the same speed.

[Swim100flyy]

Heres the thing, Ive been here for over a year, and learned a few things. The PPC processor is like a garden hose. It can process simple objects/tasks one at a time, at a high speed, but limited quantity. A computer CPU is like a watertower pipe. It can handle many apps at the same time, and can process many different programs at a relatively fast speed. Do I believe a N64 port is possible, Yes. However I do not believe that we will ever see one because we lack programmers, and the Pocket PC market is slowing down.

[Sgt_X51v]

Give it time my friends! I remeber just a little while ago pda's where only little calenders and such. Then when I researched them again I was blown away at the head way made...so I bought one

I think that we will see many more psp's and pda's that combine the best of both worlds.

Well, I am off to bed.

[da1writer]

I talked about this b4... but on different grounds:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...&highlight=n64

[IM0001]

What really pisses me off and is kinda sad at the same time is how small the PPC market really is and how few programers actually code, can code, or will code for our ppc's (Not saying there are none but there are small numbers) while a friend showed me his Sony PSP and the emulating power it had. I know its screen isnt near as sweet but SNES ran soo stinking smooth and fast on it I was amazed. Even Sega Genisis (Sonic) ran smooth as silk and looked great. (the openGL version of SNES looks the same (Excellent) but it runs at least 1/2 the speed of the PSP) I just wish we had such a large level of programers and interest to make the PPC the coolest gadget ever. Its sad when a dev disapears and the few good programs break because of an update and its such an easy fix to fix. (OpenGL SNES is amazing but WM5 broke it with it having that stupid Error box. Can noone remove this to at least see if it will still work?)

[d0pefish]

The PPC is more than capable of running Genesis, SNES, PSX, Amiga, and plenty others at full speed. It's possible.

But in some cases like Genesis and Amiga, it just hasn't been done. That DOES NOT mean it CAN'T be done, it just HASN'T. Genesis (PicoDrive, MorphGear module) has been long since abandoned and not picked up by anyone else, so it's still old, buggy, incomplete and unoptimized code. Who knows, maybe someone will pick one of these emulators up one day and finish it off.

The Amiga, as another example (PocketUAE) is nearly feature-complete but just needs some hardcore optimization.. maybe a bit of assembly in there - which I *THINK* and *HOPE* is in the pipeline. It had a nice new update recently - let's just hope it doesn't get abandoned too...

The only reason why PSP might have more full speed emulators is that it is a relatively cheap device compared to the PPC, and one hell of a lot more popular. It has a wider audience, both to users and developers alike.

It's just a shame that the Pocket PC gets less attention, because in terms of its sheer versatility and its wide range of features in general, it's a superior device.

[IM0001]

I was thinking 2 things. Contact the devs of thoes perfict emu's for the PSP and see if they would give it a try to make one for the PPC. If they agree we have almost all the info he might need to make one so would some people be up for this?
Another thing I have been wanting is an updated, optomized flash plugin. We really should start an e-mail flood of request so the flash team knows that the PPC wants updates, not them damn Cellphones which still cant do crap.

[Tejekion]

I agree with the positive comments about feasibility of N64 on Pocket PCs. If you guys remember back in the day(Circa 1999...heh) People were emulating N64 on a Pentium 233MHZ Penitum one with a Voodoo 3 Card at near 30fps. I have fond memories of N64 emulation on my GF2 MX at around 25 to 30FPS myself on a K62 300MHZ. Faster of course with my V3 2K though.

Just to cut this short, as I am a noob, my point is, if a GF2 MX can run a N64 emulator well at 300MHZ, surely a Pocket PC at 400MHZ or better should be able to pull at least 20FPS.

And on the note of a Sega Genesis emulator, I used to get 15FPS on my Audiovox Thera PDA Phone. I'm sure to get at least 30FPS on my 400MHZ Audiovox XV6600. Gotta check the GPU on it(Embedded graphics or whatever it is.)