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Old 06-21-05, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GBA / DS Emulator Attn: Da1writer
Hey, Da1writer, could you inform us when the new GBA/DS Emulator is coming Out? How is Marat's work coming? Im leaving for vacation next Tuesday, and am wondering if it will be done by then...
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Old 06-21-05, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would also like to hear some news about this i have found a lot of nintendo ds roms and if this comes out i can leave mine at home also i heard that it might be given with the gba module if you have bought the gba module already are you entitled to the upgrades
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Old 06-21-05, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well... originally,I too was hoping that Marat was going to release his new modules sometime this month. With Marat being on a business trip and all, tying up some deals, he's lucky enough he is able to do a little bit of porting of his updated modules.
Will we see it come out this month... cross your fingers but most likely, we'll see it in July ...
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Originally Posted by da1writer
Well... originally,I too was hoping that Marat was going to release his new modules sometime this month. With Marat being on a business trip and all, tying up some deals, he's lucky enough he is able to do a little bit of porting of his updated modules.
Will we see it come out this month... cross your fingers but most likely, we'll see it in July ...
Thats good to hear i will look forward to this release greatly
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Old 06-27-05, 05:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ooh, me too I guess. DS though? Wow, that's cool and all, but if there aren't even any DS emulators on the computer, then this thing would ... beat a computer emulator, that's for sure. Or would it only be able to play demos?


Even so, DS just seemed... i dunno, a bit out of reach. If this works, I'm gonna hurry straight to the purchase station, heheh....

But seriously, DS? Unless it used PXA270 instructions+WMMX+2700G+the new DirectX9 driver for the GPU.... it would probably not work well on the X50v... I know stuff like the "Megaman Battle Network" series was unplayable on the 2.3.0.2 demo even with FS 5, sound off, overclock to 702mhz with 240mhz bus.
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Old 06-27-05, 05:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by gabextremev200
Ooh, me too I guess. DS though? Wow, that's cool and all, but if there aren't even any DS emulators on the computer, then this thing would ... beat a computer emulator, that's for sure. Or would it only be able to play demos?


Even so, DS just seemed... i dunno, a bit out of reach. If this works, I'm gonna hurry straight to the purchase station, heheh....

But seriously, DS? Unless it used PXA270 instructions+WMMX+2700G+the new DirectX9 driver for the GPU.... it would probably not work well on the X50v... I know stuff like the "Megaman Battle Network" series was unplayable on the 2.3.0.2 demo even with FS 5, sound off, overclock to 702mhz with 240mhz bus.
Why it wouldn't work ? There is a Playstation Emulator for Pocket PC, and Playstation still look better than Nintendo DS.

But I must say, I would prefer a good, fast GBA module than a GBA/DS module that run badly.
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Wouldn't it be weird to try a play a 2 screen ds game on one screen?
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Old 06-27-05, 06:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I never thought of that looking at a split on the hardware is okay but a virtual split might be starnge we will just have to wait and see
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Originally Posted by Vric
Why it wouldn't work ? There is a Playstation Emulator for Pocket PC, and Playstation still look better than Nintendo DS.

But I must say, I would prefer a good, fast GBA module than a GBA/DS module that run badly.
Ah yes, you do raise some good points. However, I feel it necessary to counter a few of them so as to correct any misunderstandings people may harbor.

Firstly, the Nintendo DS is a relatively new machine, and as such, it hasn't been emulated to any reasonable extent on the desktop platform as of yet. This being said, there are a vast multitude of playstation emulators in existence due primarily to the fact that the Playstation has existed far longer than the DS.

The Playstation is also notably less complex than the DS (as far as my sources lead me to believe), for it cannot attain the performance level of the Nintendo 64, nor the processing power such performance entails. The DS, however, has roughly the same performance capabilities as the N64.

The Playstation emulator which you've mentioned has been in development for longer than the actual DS has even existed, and it still does not emulate many games to full speed (or it may not even function at all on certain PPCs, primarily the X50v). Therefore, it is safe to conclude that the proposed DS emulator (theoretically, the very first working DS emulator in the world) would be nearly incapable of working at all on a mobile device, much less attain any sort of playable speed at this early stage of development.

If, however, in the unlikely scenario that such a software is actually developed--one which, remember, is emulating a brand new, previously unemulated device which is noticeably more sophisticated than the Playstation, and in such an infinitesimal amount of time, yet still achieve "working" status--is nearly inconceivable to me, especially since most new GBA games such as the MMBN series and Pokemon Emerald don't run past 60% speed on the relatively far less complex GBA module.

[EDIT]The only hope I would see (personally) would be the implementation of the sorely needed MMX instruction optimizations, full support for all of the WM2003SE OS opcalls, full PXA270 optimization, and (of course) inclusion of some much needed graphics accelerator support. [/EDIT]

If such software is actually developed soon, it would classify (above all else) as one of the most ingenious and noteworthy software creations of the 21st century, and that's no joke.

All I can say is, good luck guys, and keep trying to make this nearly unfathomable dream a reality. Who knows? It just might work.
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Originally Posted by gabextremev200
Ah yes, you do raise some good points. However, I feel it necessary to counter a few of them so as to correct any misunderstandings people may harbor.

Firstly, the Nintendo DS is a relatively new machine, and as such, it hasn't been emulated to any reasonable extent on the desktop platform as of yet. This being said, there are a vast multitude of playstation emulators in existence due primarily to the fact that the Playstation has existed far longer than the DS.

The Playstation is also notably less complex than the DS (as far as my sources lead me to believe), for it cannot attain the performance level of the Nintendo 64, nor the processing power such performance entails. The DS, however, has roughly the same performance capabilities as the N64.

The Playstation emulator which you've mentioned has been in development for longer than the actual DS has even existed, and it still does not emulate many games to full speed (or it may not even function at all on certain PPCs, primarily the X50v). Therefore, it is safe to conclude that the proposed DS emulator (theoretically, the very first working DS emulator in the world) would be nearly incapable of working at all on a mobile device, much less attain any sort of playable speed at this early stage of development.

If, however, in the unlikely scenario that such a software is actually developed--one which, remember, is emulating a brand new, previously unemulated device which is noticeably more sophisticated than the Playstation, and in such an infinitesimal amount of time, yet still achieve "working" status--is nearly inconceivable to me, especially since most new GBA games such as the MMBN series and Pokemon Emerald don't run past 60% speed on the relatively far less complex GBA module.

[EDIT]The only hope I would see (personally) would be the implementation of the sorely needed MMX instruction optimizations, full support for all of the WM2003SE OS opcalls, full PXA270 optimization, and (of course) inclusion of some much needed graphics accelerator support. [/EDIT]

If such software is actually developed soon, it would classify (above all else) as one of the most ingenious and noteworthy software creations of the 21st century, and that's no joke.

All I can say is, good luck guys, and keep trying to make this nearly unfathomable dream a reality. Who knows? It just might work.
Well not to burn everyone hopes to the ground of this ds emulator but with our possible closing down of the main Morphear site, so has a certain tie with our most devoted developer. It seems that an agreement was to be made between Marat and ourselves but the agreement had somewhat been cued to nothing. Marat will be cutting ties with us at Morphgear soon and things look pretty dreary at the moment. There is a faint light though, of which i cannot tell anyone right now of what it is but it may save Morphgear entirely ! As for the DS emulator happening on the pocket pc... remember the n64 emu that was trying to be emulated on the pocket pc, yeah I know that you remember... Put the ds emulator for pocket pc out of your mind just like the n64 emu... sorry. This thread can now be closed, as the project has now ceased...
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Old 07-06-05, 05:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by da1writer
Well not to burn everyone hopes to the ground of this ds emulator but with our possible closing down of the main Morphear site, so has a certain tie with our most devoted developer. It seems that an agreement was to be made between Marat and ourselves but the agreement had somewhat been cued to nothing. Marat will be cutting ties with us at Morphgear soon and things look pretty dreary at the moment. There is a faint light though, of which i cannot tell anyone right now of what it is but it may save Morphgear entirely ! As for the DS emulator happening on the pocket pc... remember the n64 emu that was trying to be emulated on the pocket pc, yeah I know that you remember... Put the ds emulator for pocket pc out of your mind just like the n64 emu... sorry. This thread can now be closed, as the project has now ceased...
That is very sad news
I didnt know marat was leaving
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This stinks...I was telling everybody that My PDA would be able to emulate DS.....dang...
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Old 07-07-05, 01:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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is he going to still code for pocketpc but not for morphgear?
if not is he going to release the current source?
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