Review: Ocn6 - Page 5

joekee · 05-12-07, 01:18 AM

Source: http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/for...spx?f=5&m=5747

Known Changes:
1) New Skin introduced.

2) Contact importing feature is turned off by default.

3) One way traffic flow is enabled by default.

4) Currently your real GPS position is not display on the map. Instead it is position as a green arrow onto the closest street.

Real GPS position is now available as a small dot on the map. Usefull if you parked your car in a big parking lot and it gives you a sense of direction / heading you should proceed to the closest street.

5) etc...

solara · 05-14-07, 11:51 AM

So I've read that the US maps do not have the speed limit data for the program to display.

Without the speed limit data for each street, how does the program determine ETA times for a trip then? Is that why the maps give extremely inaccurate ETA times compared to iGuidance?

joekee · 05-14-07, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by solara

So I've read that the US maps do not have the speed limit data for the program to display.

Without the speed limit data for each street, how does the program determine ETA times for a trip then? Is that why the maps give extremely inaccurate ETA times compared to iGuidance?

Solara, may I get an exact point A and point B address for the "extremely inaccurate ETA" that you have experienced?

As far as I am concerned, this is the first time I am hearing this issue.

solara · 05-15-07, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by joekee

Solara, may I get an exact point A and point B address for the "extremely inaccurate ETA" that you have experienced?

As far as I am concerned, this is the first time I am hearing this issue.

Sorry, but I can't remember the instances. I've tried checking the routes for some of my frequently used destinations but those are fine (mostly freeway driving). If I can remember, I'll post back, but I suspect the problem routes may involve smaller roads or expressways.

So apparently, TeleAtlas left out the speed limit data in their maps. If they don't use that type of data to calculate ETA, then what do they use?! It'd be very interesting to know how they do the calculation.

joekee · 05-15-07, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by solara

Sorry, but I can't remember the instances. I've tried checking the routes for some of my frequently used destinations but those are fine (mostly freeway driving). If I can remember, I'll post back, but I suspect the problem routes may involve smaller roads or expressways.

So apparently, TeleAtlas left out the speed limit data in their maps. If they don't use that type of data to calculate ETA, then what do they use?! It'd be very interesting to know how they do the calculation.

Thanks for your post. Ok. I am interested to find out from you once you recall the problematic route.

For example, each road has attributes such as Road Class/Type and many other attributes. So, one way to prefer or avoid a specific given road is to compare all available / possible route class that connect to your destination.

05-15-07, 02:25 AM

if you want europe and north america do you have to carry two cards? also, any discount for OCN5 users? also, do you know of a gps software for ppc that covers central europe too (e.g., albania, macedonia, poland, croatia, etc.)? thanks!

JakeRich · 05-15-07, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by solara

Sorry, but I can't remember the instances. I've tried checking the routes for some of my frequently used destinations but those are fine (mostly freeway driving). If I can remember, I'll post back, but I suspect the problem routes may involve smaller roads or expressways.

So apparently, TeleAtlas left out the speed limit data in their maps. If they don't use that type of data to calculate ETA, then what do they use?! It'd be very interesting to know how they do the calculation.

Solara, I just completed a long trip with OCN6 and I didn't see large errors. OCN6 missed the estimate of a 6.5 hour journey by 10 minutes. It was pessimistic, which means I arrived 10 minutes before it thought I would. Overall, I see that as pretty accurate.

joekee · 05-15-07, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by heybhouse

if you want europe and north america do you have to carry two cards? also, any discount for OCN5 users? also, do you know of a gps software for ppc that covers central europe too (e.g., albania, macedonia, poland, croatia, etc.)? thanks!

Yes, you may get discounted price from OCN6 Upgrade page here:
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/item.aspx?itemid=5010

Yes, you will need to carry 2 cards; one for each region.

For Central Europe, you should check with iGO resellers that sells iGO Eastern Europe package: http://www.i-go.com/en/

mandersonle · 06-04-07, 05:28 PM

I have been very happy with the new OCN6. I have mine set to "economical" for routing type. In the past with OCN5 testing on known routes the options were either quickest or shortest. Often neither would select the route I know to be best. I have tested a few of these problematic routes on OCN6 "economical" and the routing has been right on.

I have yet to enter a POI and have it not be in the database. This includes state parks and a small drive-in type restaurant in rural northern MN. The restaurant was listed but the gps location was off. Anyone know how to report this so that it can be fixed.

I haven't done a lot of traveling in new areas since I installed OCN6. The routes I have done have been very accurate including the ETA. I really like the fact that I can actually check the route before heading out. With OCN5 it would calculate the route and all I could do was start driving. If I didn't like the planned route while in progress I would go my own way. The program would then either plan a new route or try to get me to u-turn. I would never know if the new route was simply taking me back to the original route or if it calculated something new. With OCN6 the route is listed turn by turn so I can quickly review it and make changes if I decide to.
Mike

lenrev · 06-05-07, 09:37 AM

Hmmm, I'll have to try this. I have noted that OCN6 tends to select routes that I know are less efficient. I will start my way, for example, and OCN6 will incessantly recalculate routes to get me back on their original route rather than determine an alternative. This recalculation is also hard on battery life. A 1-hour trip yesterday literally sucked a fresh Axim battery down to shut-down. Half way through the trip I realized I could touch a point along the basic route I wanted to take and force OCN6 off of its original route.

I have also found it often will take me through routes that get me there but require many turns on residential streets when there are much more direct arterial streets available.

Since I usually use the quickest route setting I will try economy instead.

mandersonle · 06-05-07, 10:03 AM

I noticed in OCN5 if I selected "short" it would often take me through many residential areas. It was literally selecting the shortest route between my starting point and where I wanted to go. "Fast" would calculate routes keeping me on the freeway as much as possible.

With my OCN6 when I saw the "Economical" setting I selected that right away and never tried the short or fast setting. I am driving a truck and often when using the program I have a fifth wheel on back so I have my vehicle set to "Truck". I don't know if that makes much difference or not. For the "Method" selection I have the slider 3/4 of the way down toward "Optimal"

Since you can preview route I would check that before heading out. If the route doesn't make sense add a stop that will force the program to route through a certain point.

solara · 06-05-07, 12:39 PM

You can also try adding the 'Easy' routing option. The files to be edited are in the Data.zip file.

From a post at pdamill.com forums:(http://my.pdamill.com/viewtopic.php?...=easy+routing)

Quote:

Apparently in addition to the Route Types Shortest, Fastest and Economic, there is another type called Easy.

This is not normally available but by editing the three user interface files, menus_320_240.ui, menus_240_320.ui and menus_240_240.ui you can activate this option.

In each file locate the line beginning with:

<SLIDER btn_config1 var=vRouteType value="Fastest|FAST|Shortest|SHORT|Economic|ECO" .......................>

and insert Easy|SIMPLE| in the required position in the list e.g.

<SLIDER btn_config1 var=vRouteType value="Easy|SIMPLE|Fastest|FAST|Shortest|SHORT|Eco nomic|ECO" .......................>

You can insert it anywhere in the list providing you retain the correct order and syntax of '|' symbols.

This routing option, whilst still not ideal, does use less Minor and more Major Roads in it's calculations.

So iGO, you know it can be done, so please can we have a similar option which completely avoids minor roads unless absolutely neccessary.

Regards

Roger

josephatt · 06-07-07, 04:02 PM

Joekee,

I purchased OCN5 last year and had some issues with the software and now I see that OCN6 is available.

I have put in a purchase to OCN site and they are telling me that they don't accept payment via a non-US issued credit card (Canada).

I was able to purchase it last year with the same credit card.

Is this a new policy? Do Canadians need to get a US issued credit card to proceed with the purchase?

thanks.

Joseph

07-28-07, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by solara

You can also try adding the 'Easy' routing option. The files to be edited are in the Data.zip file.

From a post at pdamill.com forums:(My PDAmill :: Log in

awesome, i'm gonna try that out (i hate it when it takes me through small streets)

joekee · 07-29-07, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by solara

You can also try adding the 'Easy' routing option. The files to be edited are in the Data.zip file.

From a post at pdamill.com forums:(My PDAmill :: Log in

Solara: Thanks for your post. For OCN6, the file name is supposed to be:
route_settings_240_240.ui

or the full patch is: \Data\igo_se1\240_240\ui\route_settings_240_240.ui

and of course, you will need to also modify all other 2 resolution's ui files.