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Old 05-08-07, 05:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cool iGO

I can see that not many people are using iGo since I couldn't find many post regarding iGo.
is iGo lot worse than TomTom and iGuidance if you're using it in North America?

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Originally Posted by JentheBird View Post
I can see that not many people are using iGo since I couldn't find many post regarding iGo.
is iGo lot worse than TomTom and iGuidance if you're using it in North America?

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ocn - mio - igo = basically [99.9%] the same stuff.

The newest IGO comes with 12.5 million POI's. 1.73GB in size

TeleAtlas maps [2007 version]

IMO, very comparible to iGuidance.

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Jenthebird,

Mr. Jake and Lawrence (lawman) are reviewing OCN6 at the moment and the review should be available shortly.

Here are some resources that you may want to check out:

1) Our opinion on OCN6 vs. iGuidance 3 here:

http://discussion.buygpsnow.com/foru...read.aspx#4264

2) Two reviews posted by editors and Microsoft MVP are published under Review section of OnCourse Navigator.com:
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/reviews.aspx

3) Feedback from one of the OCN6 users: http://discussion.buygpsnow.com/forums/thread/4246.aspx


Anyone else have any experience on iG3, TomTom and OCN6, please feel free to share with us here.

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Old 05-08-07, 09:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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-OCN6/IGO does not need to be installed, but is tied to a specific SD card. If that card gets lost, you're SOL. If that card gets corrupted, they will replace it within a period of time - after that, you're SOL.

-OCN6/IGO/TomTom use TeleAtlas maps. iGuidance uses NavTeq maps. For major cities of the US, they are similar. From my readings, TeleAtlas might have more area coverage, but that data is less accurate. TeleAtlas goes for quantity, whereas NavTeq goes for quality.

-OCN6/IGO/TomTom does not tell you which side of the road your destination is on (not program-specific but because they all use TeleAtlas maps), and does not tell you which freeway direction to take. iGuidance does both.

-OCN6/IGO has a better 3D map, nicer GUI, and smoother tracking of position - though that is artificial /extrapolated since the GPS satellite updates once every second. I think OCN6/IGO has a better user interface than TomTom personally with regards to on-screen buttons to do things. OCN6/IGO might have a better 3D map as well. But TomTom is still pretty good.

-OCN6/IGO/Tomtom has a bigger POI database than iGuidance and can do red light camera warnings. You can delete/add to the red light camera database as well with OCN6/IGO - not sure about TomTom.

Haven't tried OCN6, but have tried IGO 2006 Plus, and their routing algorithm is strange and sometimes quite bizarre. I prefer iGuidance's routing algorithm personally.

Overall, for me, I'd use iGuidance for most things. OCN6/IGO would be good for POI lookups with their 12.5million POI version. From my readings, TomTom might have around 6million POI in their database.
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Originally Posted by solara View Post
-OCN6/IGO/TomTom use TeleAtlas maps. iGuidance uses NavTeq maps. For major cities of the US, they are similar. From my readings, TeleAtlas might have more area coverage, but that data is less accurate. TeleAtlas goes for quantity, whereas NavTeq goes for quality.
Solara, excellent points you have made here. Thanks.

The debate on which maps system is better; Navteq or TeleAtlas, is not easy. I would say no map system is perfect.

I also would like to add that GPS review.net did a study on NAVTEQ vs. TeleAtlas and his conclusion is TeleAtlas is better than NAVTEQ.

It is an interesting article and I hope you have the time to read it.

http://discussion.buygpsnow.com/forums/thread/3788.aspx
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His testing method can only determine whether a map source has a certain address or not. It does not gauge the ACCURACY. So his study supports my theory that TeleAtlas has more breath/quantity. The study does not address accuracy/quality since that enthails actually driving to the location and determing whether it's where it's supposed to be.

TeleAtlas relies on government and other sources for their maps. They do less roadwork mapping compared to NavTeq.

In any case, with regards to GPS mapping software, it's a given that it won't be 100% or uptodate. In my case, I prefer NavTeq maps since they contain info as to which side of the street the destinatino is on, as well as the freeway info.
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FWIW, my limited experience with OCN6 has shown more than adequate accuracy for travel navigation. I, too, was surprised by its routing at times. I've not figured out what preferences / order, e.g. interstate, state route, county highway, etc., it uses as it is not consistent. It consistently tries to route me to the south when I want to leave my subdivision going to a local village to the north. As soon as I turn north it recalculates a usable route.

I have had issues with the mini-SD (3meg. POI) version and am awaiting a replacement from OCN. They have worked with me in trying to figure out the problem so I can't complain about their service, yet.

With my Axim X51v the last SD would often freeze during start-up and often fail to properly load some maps. Those maps are random, though some seem to fail more often than others.

If the load issue is resolved, I will give OCN6 a hearty thumbs up. Even with the load issues, I am impressed when it actually works.
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Thank you so much

Thank you so much for all those replies.

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Some other points: iGuidance takes about 8 secs to load, roughly the same for TomTom 6. iGO 2006 Plus takes about 15 secs to load.

Also, iGuidance is superfast when it comes to creating a route - often only a few seconds. Both TomTom and OCN6/iGO can take more than 10 secs easily on a trip that takes iGuidance a few secs to route.

OCN6/iGO should press TeleAtlas to put info in that database that indicates which side of the street the destination is on, as well as freeway direction and number. If they incorporated this into their software, OCN6/iGO would corner the market. Oh, and they really really have to fix their routing algorithm and routing speed as well.
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Originally Posted by solara View Post
Some other points: iGuidance takes about 8 secs to load, roughly the same for TomTom 6. iGO 2006 Plus takes about 15 secs to load.

Also, iGuidance is superfast when it comes to creating a route - often only a few seconds. Both TomTom and OCN6/iGO can take more than 10 secs easily on a trip that takes iGuidance a few secs to route.

OCN6/iGO should press TeleAtlas to put info in that database that indicates which side of the street the destination is on, as well as freeway direction and number. If they incorporated this into their software, OCN6/iGO would corner the market. Oh, and they really really have to fix their routing algorithm and routing speed as well.
May I know what device you were using iGO 2006 plus on?

I timed OCN6 and TomTom 6 on Axim x51v and they both get about 9 sec average vs. iGuidance about 5 secs.

I am also interested to re-confirm your route calculation speed on iGuidance vs. OCN6/TomTom. May I get your sample for both point A and B?
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I simply like Iguidance for the voice warnings on which side to turn or merge on....I usually have mortplayer running at the same time and I can switch through my playlist and I would still know where to turn but with iGO it wont voice prompt me anything...
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I simply like Iguidance for the voice warnings on which side to turn or merge on....I usually have mortplayer running at the same time and I can switch through my playlist and I would still know where to turn but with iGO it wont voice prompt me anything...
phistyle, on the Advanced settings menu is a button for Startup & Minimized. Tap that button. On the next screen is a pair of options for "While Minimized." Activate them. That should give you navigation when you are playing mortplayer.
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May I know what device you were using iGO 2006 plus on?

I timed OCN6 and TomTom 6 on Axim x51v and they both get about 9 sec average vs. iGuidance about 5 secs.

I am also interested to re-confirm your route calculation speed on iGuidance vs. OCN6/TomTom. May I get your sample for both point A and B?
I also use it on an x51v. I'll have to check my numbers again - but your numbers agree with mine relatively so the absolute number is irrevalent really. Could be differences in card speed etc etc. As for routing time, the difference is just so obvious that you can choose any 100 mile trip and it will show up.
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eh i mean the voice prompts...iGO is still running in the background but it doesnt give as many voice prompts as iguidance...
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I used both iGuidance 3.02 and iGo 2006 Plus w/ 2007 maps...

I think iGuidance is more accurate then iGo. I typically use iGo for several reasons.
1. iGo's maps are separated. iGuidance's maps have to be generated. keeping them separated means you can load states individually and don't need a computer to copy over a new map.
2. iGo has awesome 3D. You can spin, swivel, zoom, and change angle on the fly and i love it. It also has smoother graphics because the software "assumes" direction and speed and compensates for 1second GPS signals. iGuidance has different views which are mostly top down, "birds eye view", and 1 3D.
3. I love the airplane mode on iGo, which a icon on the map where is zooms way out and is North Up so you can quickly see direction your going.

For iGuidance
1. Voice Navigation is more accurate. iGo will sometimes say "Stay Right", "Stay Right", "Stay Right", "Stay Right", "Turn Left here!" when your on a highway-like road. Its bad because you get used to hearing "Stay Right" Stay Rija" "Stay Rrrr" Stay.....", "Stay..." "Stay...", and next thing you know your wondering how you passed your exit 10 miles back. It doesn't happen often but really sucks. I normally turn off the voice prompts at that point and just keep watch on the screen for distance.
2. If I had to trust my life on a GPS, I would choose iGuidance. Its more crude but I don't think I've ever been steered wrong.
3. I've noticed that iGuidance has a "local" route verse iGo's option of just turning off highway routes. I find that both software give different routes. I typically tend to believe iguidance over iGo. I take a back road home from work and iGO keeps trying to take me down other roads. Even iGuidance will freak out occasionally and tell me to detour off my road.

Regardless you'll always end up at the same place and typically you won't have your GPS on when your in a known area. I normally never have to turn off highway routes.
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