GPS on AT&T Tilt - Page 3

ylabluver · 11-14-07, 02:21 PM

OK, I'm completely ignorant. I just ordered my new Tilt and will be getting it in about 5 days. Do I have to pay a monthly service fee to use my GPS and have turn-by-turn directions? Thanks.

**radimus** · 11-14-07, 02:27 PM

only if you want to use the service provided by the carrier.

There are free internet based apps, like google and MS Live that will provide mapping and turned based, but not with voice directions

There are installable programs... about $80-$120 that do voice directions as well

cmonk · 11-14-07, 10:43 PM

i cannot get the gps to work without connecting to the internet and support at at&t state that a data connection is needed for the gps to work . can anyone tell me how to get my att tilt to work without internet or data connection

11-15-07, 02:55 AM

All you need a data/internet connection for is quick gps. This will only help your gps software aquire satellite positions quicker. You do not need a data connection to use the GPS. I tested this with the Data turned off and Google worked great. I tend to like WLS a little better though. Be sure to have your thirty day trial of AT&T TeleNav Turned off. They charge 5.99 for ten trips a month and 9.99 for unlimited use. My TeleNav software was removed with the Bloatware fix... I also verified that I do not have TeleNav turned on with a CS person.

I'm hoping to get TomTom6 Soon and will be testing on TiltSite.com!

cmonk · 11-15-07, 08:27 PM

OK, so now i'm confused. i have google maps loaded on my tilt and wifi and the phone turned off and when i try to run google maps i get error message 183 that states this program requires a data connection. can anyone lead me through astep by step process to run the gps without a data connection. thanks

11-15-07, 11:11 PM

There really isn't a process. I installed google maps to my main memory. I did run quick gps over the data and updated it. I then turned off my data connection and fired up google and it aquired satellites no problem and I was off and running. You actually don't need to run quick gps, it just makes aquiring satellites faster. You may want to uninstall and reinstall google and try again..

CaptKen · 11-30-07, 06:31 PM

I use 3 programs and they all find the built in GPS receiver just fine, which is on Com port 4.
TomTom 6 is great. Mapopolis works, too, and my Maritime program, Ozi Explorer works fine, too. TomTom in my opinion is way more useful than TeleNav, and doesn't require 10 bucks a month. Tom Tom also cover Canada and Hawaii where I don't think TeleNav does. All in all, Tilt does fine with its built in GPS The screen is not as robust as my Axim, but way better than a Palm. One of the nicest things about the Tilt is that at night, the display shows, but not an annoying keypad that is brightly lit up (like the Palm) which rendered it nearly useless at night. Built in GPS is a great feature.

adretzios · 12-01-07, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by cmonk

OK, so now i'm confused. i have google maps loaded on my tilt and wifi and the phone turned off and when i try to run google maps i get error message 183 that states this program requires a data connection. can anyone lead me through astep by step process to run the gps without a data connection. thanks

You cannot use Google Maps and Microsoft Live Search without a data connection because they are not just GPS programs. They provide continuous information on traffic, shopping etc to the user. It is possible that other GPS programs (like Tom-Tom) may work without a connection but I doubt it. Anyway, why would anybody buy this phone without data connection? Without it, it is just useless. Any other cheap phone will do for voice.

CaptKen · 12-01-07, 12:47 PM

Tom Tom does not need a data connection unless you use its traffic updates or some other features that need a connection. For mapping and directions, and its normal functions, the built in GPS works fine, and no data connection is needed. While Tom Tom needs to be purchased, there is no monthly charge like TeleNav. It covers the US and Canada, including Alaska and Hawaii and takes about 1GB on the memory card.

Mad Chad · 12-01-07, 08:25 PM

Yes. $10/mo. I pay for the services and think it works great.
MC

sougandh · 12-22-07, 04:54 AM

Hi, I am a newbie and i would like to connect the tilt to pocket streets. How should i go about it.

when i click on the 'external gps' icon in the system settings, i can see 3 pages..
1) Programs - GPS program port - set to COM4
2) hardware - GPS hardware port - port set to (none) and Baud rate - 4800
3) Access - Manage GPS automatically - box checked.

When i try to set the hardware port to some port (say like COM1 or COM0... ) when i close the page and re enter the gps settings, the hardware port is automatically set to (none). Why is that so?

When i try to connect to the MS Streets and Trips 2007 by clicking configure GPS, i get a message like:

The communications port is available but no signal is being received. make sure the GPS device is turned on and connected to the correct port

I dont know how to go forward from this moment.

Can some one let me know whats going on here.. or is there something basic that i am missing here..

thanks

ckole · 12-23-07, 01:47 PM

So I consider myself a bit of a guru when it comes to GPS applications. I use Google Maps, Microsoft Live Search, RunGPS (A great fitness GPS application, Run.GPS) and TomTom. I am using the Taster Version of TomTom and it is really idiot proof and works very well. If I was to purchase an application this would be the one. For example, last night I changed directions from one contact to another in about 20 seconds. The application reprogrammed the new route almost instantly while I was driving. Google Maps and Live Search are a great start. Both work well without a GPS if you know generally where you are going. I.E. you are in your home town and just need to narrow down the last mile/km to get to someones home or business. When I head back to Europe I plan on buying the full version of TomTom. I have found it to be very accurate and very easy to you.

The new version of Live Search with Speak ability is very good. You simply say a business name, for example, and the system tries to figure out what you said. I have said things like Espos and Nellos (2 favorite local restaurants) and Live Search found it no problem. This is very helpful when driving, recommend using at stop light. The speak option saves time.

Google Maps new find me feature without GPS, when it work is helpful. This is still in beta so it can be hit and miss.

For fitness. There are a number of applications for fitness gurus. I have tried a bunch of them and I have found RunGps to be the best. There are a few which are similar. You can use RunGps while doing any exercise that is outdoors and use it while driving. There are too many features to list. Best thing to do is go to their web site. Run.GPS or visit the portal site where folks upload exercises they have done. Run.GPS Community Server - Worldwide Training This is one of the many applications which takes advantage of the Google Earth API. You can download other peoples tracks/paths right into your own phone and use them. Maybe a friend has found a great hiking trail. Now you can know where to go without getting lost. We have uploading fun things like a walk on the beach in Honduras and a hike in Switzerland.

In the end you get what you pay for. If you are a casual GPS user then I think Google Maps or LiveSearch are fine. If you travel often to strange cities and need some thing that is quick and easy with turn by turn directions I would get TomTom. Go to XDA developers and look for the taster version. You can download it along with one free map which should cover your metropolitan area. This will give you plenty of opportunity to see if you would wish to purchase the full version.

Ok I am out of breath typing all of this stuff. Lastly if you want a good contact management add-on that also has a neat where am I GPS feature look at Finger Friendly Friends. Finger-Friendly Friends

I hope this helps a few folks. Remember that Google and LiveSearch do not store maps so that is why you need a data connection when using them.

- Chris

12-26-07, 12:14 PM

Mapopolis is a "decent" GPS program that also does NOT require a data connection

srf506 · 01-11-08, 11:12 AM

Has anyone tried iGidance on it yet? That's what I currently run on my Sprint HTC6700 w/BT GPS receiver. I'd like to use the same program since I've got all my maps and everything on mini-SDs. I pick up my AT&T Tilt tonight. Can't wait to try it out. Heard its a great improvement over the 6700. So we'll see.

aparichitudu · 01-11-08, 03:12 PM

Yes. I do use iGuidance 4 on my Tilt it works Great. I was using iGuidance and TomTom on my Axim 51v both maps loaded on a 4GB SD card. I just copied the iGuidance maps on to a microSD card and installed the program on the Tilt. iGuidance has an option (Tools-> GPS Options-> Auto Detect) to detect the GPS automatically and will set to use it. That is great! The COM port it is using on my Tilt is COM4 (4800 though some times it shows 9600).

I also used an external BT receiver (just to test the connectivity) and works great as well.

I'm planning to get a 6GB microSD and transfer both iGuidance and TomTom maps to it so that I can use either program maps.
When I'm home (using WiFi), I used Google Maps, WLS and Yahoo! Go maps to see if the GPS is being recognized and all recognize GPS very well.

I love the GPS feature of this phone since I don't need to carry my Axim for GPS purposes.