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Old 01-21-09, 11:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an Att Fuze without a data connection (so i use wi-fi). I have installed Garmin Mobile XT. The only problem I am currently having is that I can't seem to be able to get a GPS fix. I have updated the quick GPS software that expires, but I go outside and teh thing just keeps on searching. No luck. Thanks
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Old 01-22-09, 09:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, this is a known issue. Most people believe it will take a new radio from HTC to totally solve the issue. I recommend you go to Raphael - xda-developers. There are quite a few threads that claim to help or solve this issue. I looked for the thread that got my GPS working, but could not find it. One thing I have found is it will take some time to get a lock after a soft reset or power cycle. Once you get that first fix, it will normally get a lock much quicker after that. Also be sure to download the satelite data.
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Old 01-24-09, 04:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do i need to have a data connection to have the gps working?
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No, you do not need a data connection unless you are using a program like Google Maps.
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what is a soft reset and how do i do it? how did u get urs to work?
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Originally Posted by Delldjgurl View Post
what is a soft reset and how do i do it? how did u get urs to work?
A soft reset could be thought of as the Windows Mobile equivalent of restarting your PC. For the FUZE, the reset button is here:



Logical, eh? When I first got my Fuze I thought that button was a headset indicator light or some such. Normally reset buttons are not marked, and are more recessed. Programs like SPB Pocket Plus or SBSH iLauncher, or the free PsShutXP allow users to soft reset from within Windows Mobile so you don't have to hunt for the hardware equivalent. However, if the OS gets locked, it's nice to know where that button is!
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Old 01-26-09, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by breley View Post
A soft reset could be thought of as the Windows Mobile equivalent of restarting your PC. For the FUZE, the reset button is here:



Logical, eh? When I first got my Fuze I thought that button was a headset indicator light or some such.
that is exactly what I thought also...
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Old 01-26-09, 11:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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the soft reset didn't work. here's what happens though. when i go to garmin, i turn it on and it says scanning bluetooth, if u skip that to go to the whereto screen, you see a bluetooth symbol with a magnifying glass instead of reception bars. it seems like the fuze isnt recognizing that i have a gps receiver built in. what do i do now?
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Old 01-27-09, 11:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I would again think that you must tell Garmin app what com port and at
what baud rate your internal gps is operating at in order for the app to
find it.There are are a number of free apps to find that info or read your
fones operating manual.Better still if anyone here has the same fone they
might volunteer that info.

Here's a great start to find your answers,some say Com 0 works for some
apps:

HTC fuze GPS - HTC

Here's another article about the Fuze and gps.

The HTC Fuze has an internal GPS with aGPS (location positions are aided by cell tower triangulation). The phone has HTC's usual QuickGPS which downloads satellite data weekly to speed positioning, and there's an aGPS applet that turns on/off aGPS (we can't think of a reason to turn this off since it really speeds up location fixes and doesn't use data). The PDA phone comes with an icon that leads you to the full download of AT&T Navigator, formerly named TeleNav. Even if you don't intend to use TeleNav, download and run it once (it will run in free trial mode for 3 days). This sets up the GPS for use and is your path to success for using other GPS programs such as Google Maps, Garmin XT Mobile or other navigation applications.



For those who are interested in AT&T Navigator, it's an excellent mapping and navigation application with spoken turn-by-turn directions. TeleNav's maps are accurate, routing is logical and expedient and maps download quickly over 3G and decently fast over EDGE. Navigator does require a data plan since maps and POIs are downloaded over the data connection, and the service itself costs $9.99/month or $99/year. While some folks hate paying monthly fees, the good part is that TeleNav is constantly updating their map and routing data, so it's always up to date. Likewise you need not use a PC sync or special microSD card to have the maps you need. Of course, if you travel to the far reaches of never-never-land where even GSM and EDGE aren't available, Navigator won't work.

The Fuze, like the GSM Diamond, isn't the best at getting a cold fix (in layman's terms, that means finding your location after the phone has been rebooted). Most phones with aGPS can get a fix in less than 30 seconds indoors near a window these days, but the Fuze had to be outdoors and then it took more than a minute to get a 3D fix. Subsequent warm starts were much faster (10 seconds), so this is an issue only after rebooting the phone. Once it found itself in the world, the GPS managed to keep up with us when driving, and didn't experience much lag

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yet again....

agps = off
external GPS = com4/none-4800/windows managed
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TomTom walks you through a set after the install. I asks what type of gps you will be using for TomTom BT GPS, TomTom wired, other BT, or other NMEA GPS. For the Tilt or Fuse you would select other NMEA GPS & then the next step is to select the baud rate. The final step is select the com port.

My TomTom settings are other NMEA GPS, 4800, Com 4. Not sure if this helps any.

At least AT&T doesn't lock the GPS like Verizon Wireless. Where your only option is to use the VZ navigator at $10 a month.
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Radimus, those are the exact settings that I have for the Gps. it keeps saying searching for bluetooth but never tries a signal. I then decided to see if my gps chip was faulty, so I installed the free trial of att navigator. I used wifi since I dont have a data plan, and I was able to get a fix. So I guess that means the GPS chip is ok. Quick GPS is up to date. I jsut dont know what to do. I went outside. I left it on for 10 mintues and still nothing. It keeps saying searching bluetooth. tried soft reset too.
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I tried this program called gps test to test out my gps. i have a couple of green bars. it says currently (im in the top floor of my house but not directly at a window) my fix is 3D and the hoop is 2.40 and the gps is running. tried running this software in the background with garmin but no luck. I think the problm is the garmin software. but 3d means im locked onto 3 satellites right?
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garmin xt
tools
settings
system
remote gps
disable
select com4: com4 (press enable)
(gps info)
done
done
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garmin xt
tools
settings
system
remote gps
disable
select com4: com4 (press enable)
(gps info)
done
done
done
Ok, there is no settings under tools, but there is a settings option next ot tools. i clicked remote gps and disabled it. now it says connection allowed to garmin gps device only. after this is where I have the problem. So then if I hit GPS info, I get an image of a compas rose. Up top it says GPS is off. There is also another thing that says new location, but I don't see anyplace to put in a com port.
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