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Old 01-09-07, 08:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WiFi problems on 1950

Hi all,

I recently obtained an HP iPAQ 1950 and initially, I could connect to my wireless LAN (with a Dell router) without any problem. But the Dell router fell one time too much on the floor and broke down, so I replaced it by a US Robotics router. :)

My desktop is happy with it, as opposed to the 1950. It connects without problems, gets an ip address and nameserver addresses and so on via DHCP, but when trying to access the internet, although sometimes it works well for a few minutes, more often than not it concludes after half a minute that the requested page can not be found. :rolling:

I tried changing security settings, disabling DHCP, standing only several nanometers in front of the router and doing funny dances naked on the kitchen table, but nothing seems to help.

Any solutions anyone?
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Old 01-09-07, 01:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is the Desktop connecting wirelessly as well, or is it hard-wired to the router?

Please disable WEP and any other encryption for now while we trouble-shoot the issue further...
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Old 01-10-07, 07:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The desktop is connected wireless, all security and encryption settings are off.
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Old 01-10-07, 11:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by FrankT
My desktop is happy with it, as opposed to the 1950. It connects without problems...
And I presume "It" in this case is your 1950? What is the model of the new USRobotics Router? Is your Desktop using "B" or "G" when it's able to connect?
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"It" indeed refers to my 1950.

It's a US Robotics 5461A Router in "G"...
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Old 01-10-07, 03:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Heya hyedipin!

Oh boy, it's going to be a long day. I must be real slow today. It took me a while to figure out what you were getting at! (But then, scarry films have never interested me!).

FrankT,
Please make sure your USRobotics router is set to provide both "B" and "G" services (sometimes called "multimode"). I believe the 1950 is a "B" device, and if your Desktop was a "G" capable and your Router configured to provide only "G" services, then your desktop would work but not your 1950...
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Hey D. No problem, I tend to think everyone has to like what I like, and it must be good, and of course it is not true. It is just my own utopia.

I had a lot of problems with B/G routers in the past, remember any B that is connected with dominantly G network, it will bring it down to its knees and limit the bandwidth. That's why I always keep all my B/G routers set up at B just to avoid that. I don't do any heavy-network stuff on my laptops or handhelds, so it is just fine for me. If I need the bandwidth, ie transferring files from one to other, I just flip it on from the config.
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remember any B that is connected with dominantly G network, it will bring it down to its knees and limit the bandwidth.
I've certainly heard about this problem in anecdotal fashion, but I have never seen it in action. Fortunately (unfortunately?) every router I have tried out that had Multimode works just fine in that setting. I can run a couple of "G" based laptops and be downloading files, and connect my iPAQ h5555 ("B" natively) and the "G" connections are not affected...

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That's why I always keep all my B/G routers set up at B just to avoid that. I don't do any heavy-network stuff on my laptops or handhelds, so it is just fine for me. If I need the bandwidth, ie transferring files from one to other, I just flip it on from the config.
I can see the wisdom in that, however, if I was preset to "B" only, I'd be more inclined to use a SD card & USB reader to sneakernet the files...
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Also I remember reading somewhere power save function reducing the WLAN bandwidth to extend battery life? Have you ever heard of that?
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The power-save functions that I have heard of were in relation to the amount of power that you set the device's transmit and receive to, but I doubt this is the case in this situation. If you bumped-up the power, you could sit further away from the AP (access point) and still reliably pull-in a good WiFi signal.
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Well, although I was sceptical about the b- or g-mode solving the problem (because (1) it seems strange to me that it will work for some minutes in g-mode if it needs b, and (2) on my previous router the problem never occured), I first thought that putting the router's mode on "automatic" solved the problem.:o

However, after some minutes the problem returned and the iPAQ was again no longer able to locate webpages. It seems that internet addresses can not be located, although nameservers are in place. Strange thing is that sometimes everything works for some minutes.
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Could this be a firewall issue? Try turning off your firewall and see if that makes a difference.

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Old 01-15-07, 12:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am also planning a updated review of Socket Communications "WiFi Companion". This program has some wonderful built-in utilities for testing connections (ping, tracert, etc). This might assist you further in isolating this trouble. I believe they still offer a free trial (3days?), it's a must have in my toolbox...
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