(in)compatible software ipaq 210 211 214

04-29-08, 07:23 AM

It seemed to me a while back that it would be worthwhile to create and maintain a list of programs that have difficulties with our "beloved" 210/11/14? I started this thread on a different forum discussing our monster machine and after consultation, got permission to copy and hopefully maintain the list here, too. Some of the names and references of thanks are to the other forum.

As far as I am aware:

Will soon add quirks from the OS (though that is a bigger project) and bundled applications/programs
Windows Mobile 6.0 Classic

Bluetooth compatibility difficulties reported with a combination SPB titles and/or Skype. (thanks bigvoice and DrAT)

Doesn't Work

Card Export II - per company report ticket answer (thanks Yildi)

Chinese Monster version 6 (version 5.3 works)

WiFiFoFum - not set up to play nicely with our marvell chip. (thanks David Hettel)

SPB Backup - the actual application works and is not reported to "crash" the system, but rather using the backups to restore system has been reported to cause "Unrecognized Card in Socket 1" error

(resco backup has been reported as working well however do not "restore" from backup made from completely different device - has led one poster on aximsite to damage which mandated him to replace his unit. see sprite 6.2 below)

TomTom 6 (other than 6.03 - which does work.)

acbPowerMeter

SKSchema from SKSoftware

MiniStumbler: Does not see Wi-Fi card of the 211 so the program will not function.

Works Partially

Omega One Battery Pack Pro - report that the power store information doesn't update after a period.

Sprite Backup 6.2 - strong password encryption/decryption scrambles password when restoring, at least between devices. A work-around exists to not restore security settings: (don't restore the following files: "\Pocket PC\System Data\File System\Windows\System\Default.mky" AND "\Pocket PC\System Data\File System\Windows\System\System.mky") - thanks franktl

Worms World Party - game works well, but the mapping to hardware buttons has been reported if you hexedit config file (WWPSave.dat) - (thanks rush214)

Fleximail (thanks DrAT) Since there is only one post claiming it working to some level, and the company still claims that it isn't compatible with the 210 211 214 and DRat has posted some serious and potentially very problematic limitations, I hesitate to move it here, but will for the meanwhile. More experiences with fleximail as it is?)

native PIM with Outlook 2003/7 in Vista and XP with a lot of info (Pocket Informant 8 has been reported as working well)

coreplayer 1.2.*

PIE with Chinese OS - significant slowdown surfing Chinese language sites reported (at least once)

Unclear Functioning

Real VGA - suspicion that it awakens "Unrecognized Card in Socket 1" error. Not clear if it is the real suspect. Though other reports that it works well.

WordNetCE Dictionary (works but the text is very big)

Messaging - has reports of deleted mail items while using Gmail POP - though it may work with gmail IMAP

Being Examined Further - i.e. not sure but at least a report was made

Macromedia Flash 7 bothering SPB Plus Repeating Alarms function

Fully Functional

Adobe Flash - for windows mobile.

AE Button Plus 2.6 - Allows you to bind up to 4 different actions (of more than 40) to almost any hardware button including volume slider, SoftKey buttons and even green/red phone buttons.

Agile Messenger: Agile Mobile - MSN, ICQ, AOL, AIM, XMPP, IMPS, Google Talk & Yahoo! Messenger for your mobile phone

AIM for Pocket PC: This is the hacked version that DOES work on our Win Mobile 5 and 6 units, simply install and use it. Follow the link, click on "FILE" below the first paragraph to download AIM. Note: You'll have to do a quick free sign-up of that forum, in order to download the file. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ked+pocket+AIM

Avantgo

Battery Monitor
Bejeweled 2 - our first game on the list! :)
Better Measure - Simple and robust unit converter that allows the user to customize the layout to suit their needs.
Boingo Mobile - global Wi-Fi service for mobile handsets

Calligrapher
Cash Organizer Premium 2008
Chronos Alarm Clock
CityTime
Clearview Viewer
Conversions In Hand: Burr Oak Software

DateCalcCE: Allows you to quickly calculate the number of days, or weeks and days, between two dates. DateCalcCE

Due Date Reminder: keeps track of all due dates and also keeps you reminding you of the desired Dues to be paid. http://www.freewareppc.com/database/...reminder.shtml

Ectaco French-English Distionary (quite an old version)
Easy Sync
eWallet - reported versions 4.1 and 6.0
Ephemeris
Epocrates
Expense Plus
FitalyVGA
Flash Format - formatting utility. Defragment, format and repair internal and external (SD or CF) cards. Flash Format | Verify, repair, format and autorun compact flash, sd and mini sd storage cards on Windows Mobile / Pocket PC, Smartphone and Windows CE devices
Foxit Reader
Fpsece - Playstation Emulator
Franklin Covey Plan Plus v5.0 for Outlook.
Gotomypc - remote access software
Google Map

GoogHelper for Windows Mobile PPC - search Google without first opening up any browser window and then click on a list of results and automatically open a browser then. GoogHelper for Windows Mobile Pocket PC - Snappy utility that helps you quickly launch various Internet searches.

HaaliReader - ebook reader PRC/PDB (plain text and XML - not HTML or LIT)

HanDBase v4
HandySwitcher: HandySwitcher - DinarSoft
HiCalc: Where you find quality products for your PDA

Isilo
iSS Financial Calculator: http://www.implicitsoftware.com/mobi...ncialcalc.html

IM+ 4.56 - messaging solution that allows users to exchange instant messages within the most popular IM systems MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, ICQ, Google Talk and Jabber

Lexisgoo English Dictionary: Where you find quality products for your PDA

ListPro

Live Search For Windows Mobile: web search software. Live Search for mobile

Magic Button - Transcreative
Mdict
MemMaid 1.72, 2.2
MicroOLAP - CHM file reader
MobiPocket
Mortplayer
MS Pocket Reader
MS Pocket Streets
My Sport Training (quite an old version: 3.98)
NewsBreak - news feed reader (RSS plus more)

Omnisolve - Advanced forms-based financial problem solver combined with a built-in finance calculator.

Opera 8.65
Pad, The by Visualit
pcAnywhere
PeekPocket
PHM Regedit
Pocket 15SE calculator (by Lygea)
Pocket Artist
Pocket Bible NIV Version by Laridian: Laridian Bible Software for Windows Mobile

Sodoku - mastersoft, resco

PocketBreeze
PocketDict dictionary (1.2)
Pocket e-Sword - Bible reader
Pocket Earth: Informap Technology Center, Inc®

PocketInformant v7, v8
Pocket Mechanic
Pocket Mindmap
Pocket Painter
PocketPlayer: Conduits > Products > Pocket Player: MP3, WMA, Video and Podcast Player For Your Pocket PC or Smartphone!
Pocket RAR
Pocket Snapshot
Pocket Spark: Allows playback of Macromedia Flash files on your Pocket PC. Conduits > Products
Pocket Tweak
Pocket Wikipedia
PocketXPDF
PhatNotes 5.2
PhatPad (old version: 2.2) and version 4.4

Qmail: it supports POP3, IMAP4, NNTP & RSS protocols. Follow the instructions because this installation is a little different; simply copy the files to the Pocket PC. This email client works very well and fast PocketPCFreeware : QMAIL 3.0.4

QuickMenu
RC Mod: Pocket PC color scheme customization program
Repligo viewer
Resco Photo Viewer (6.01)
Resco Explorer 2007
Resco Audio (4.0)
Resco Today Plugin
Resco Keyboard Pro
Sanford Guide to antimicrobial treatment 2007
SBSH PocketWeather
SBSH Ilauncher
SecureW2 - An Open Source framework that adds EAP

Sentry 2020: Sentry CE - file encryption for Pocket PC

ScreenOff: turns off the screen after mapping it to a hard button. http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities...pocketpc.shtml

SKMenu
SKTools
Skype
Skyscape Medical programs
SimCity 2000
Soccer Addict
SoftMaker 2008/TextMaker: SoftMaker : Homepage
Sokoban , Pocket, Resco
Space Time 3 - graphing calculator of 2-d, 3-d and 4-d freeware
Spb Finance
Spb Full screen keyboard
Spb Insight
Spb Mobile Shell - though has been noted to slow down the 210
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb Time
SPB Traveller 1.6
Sprite Backup 6
Stowaway BT Keyboard driver
TCPMP
Tiny ebook reader
Today Agenda
Tome Raider 3
Total Commander

TRPPC - helping you to implement David Allen's time management method: Getting Things Done (GTD).

Tweaks2K2 .NET: http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/stat...50224182009983

uBook Reader

Virtual Earth Mobile: Another program like Google Maps, with image downloads and all. Via Virtual Earth

VS Painter

vxutil (not tested extensively) - set of utilities that lets you access Internet functions. You will be able to perform Finger, Get HTML, Info, IP Subnet Calculator, Lookup, Password Generator, Ping, Quote, Time Server, Trace Route, and Whois queries

Warfare Incorporated

wkTask 1173c - Applications close or minimize with a tap or tap and hold. I can also suspend the device with a vertical swipe of the stylus

WiFi Profiles

wm5Storage 1.8 - utility to export the flash memory card inside Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PCs as a usual USB Mass Storage device effectively turning your Pocket PC into flash reader and USB sticks. ActiveSync is not required and will be disconnected if it is installed.

WMDA - winmobile download accelerator

WOW HD sound program

Foreign Language Associated:

CE-Star 2.8r3 - Chinese/Japanese language addon for English version of Windows Mobile

雅黑 - A Chinese Font so the system looks better

梅花输入法 5.0 - A Chinese input method

Chinese addon

anything else that I am missing?

Another note - I am not associated with any software company in any form or fashion. If you feel that the information here is incorrect or presented in a misleading fashion, please inform me and I will make the necessary adjustments. I do not mean to take credit for testing the programs above but rather to collect the reports from various sources and experiences of real people, so inherently can be not up to date or incorrect at the time of reading. All efforts will be made to adjust the data appropriately.

Theemed · 04-29-08, 07:36 AM

Cool work :) I have to report that I never encountered any kind of problems with Real VGA up until now (apart from unavoidable visualization glitches in apps that don't support high resolutions), and I am at 128dpi resolution all the time.
And BTW, I discovered looking through your list that now there's an update to HanDBase, I've been with 3.5 for a lot of time now ;)

04-29-08, 07:54 AM

Theemed - do you have a CF card in place while you use the Real VGA? Feel free to add any other programs which are missing from my list that you have had experience with

FrinkTL · 04-29-08, 08:40 AM

VERY nice (and pretty complete) list! I would make the following additions:

Programs with Issues:
Sprite Backup 6.2: strong password encryption/decryption scrambles password when restoring, at least between devices. A work-around exists to not restore security settings: (don't restore the following files: "\Pocket PC\System Data\File System\Windows\System\Default.mky" AND "\Pocket PC\System Data\File System\Windows\System\System.mky")

Programs That Work without Issue:

TranCreative Magic Button
Pocket Informant 2007 (v. 7.x)
MortPlayer (Media player)
MemMaid 1.72

gjw · 04-29-08, 10:40 AM

What problems have you seen with Card Export and CorePlayer?
I'm using both.

And you list Pocket Plus as fully compatible but the backlight slider does not work on the 210.

04-29-08, 10:49 AM

Coreplayer works just fine for me. I think some folks are having issue that it is not optimized for the Ipaq 21x series yet. So for me, it works fine, but possibly could work better once the optimizations are done.

Card Export runs for me, but it does not fully function. My PC can see the drives but can't access them. Softick support says they are still working on it. So it appears to work successfully for some folks and not for others.

aedmunds7 · 04-29-08, 11:56 AM

Thank you, thank you for this Excellent list; lets continue to let it grow. Also I have no problems with FlexMail 2007 at all on my HP IPAQ 211. Been using over 3 months.

04-29-08, 02:49 PM

in regards to card export II, the answer came from the company itself that it isn't (fully) supported, yet. It is good to hear that others have had different experieinces. Please elaborate.

In regards to flexmail, again the company noted the difficulties, and I think that primarily it was focused on POP3 accounts. Those who downloaded either just the headers or just 1k bits from the mails on IMAP accts seem to be doing ok with it.

Coreplayer is in the area of not fully functioning, which fits in my opinion as not being optimized for the 210.

I had not heard that of pocketplus. I will indicate it (tomorrow) with an update.

Thanks again everyone for contributing

04-29-08, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by gjw

What problems have you seen with Card Export and CorePlayer?
I'm using both.

When I activate CardExport, my PC becomes very slow and it cannot see the content of the cards (they just appear as empty). I have contacted the company and they have confirmed the incompatibility (see my post above).

WM5Storage works as it has been told by someone else and it has more functionality than CardExport.

Note: I tried CE only with the 8GB SDHC Transcend card I have and I have upgraded to the last version before testing.

Murat

04-29-08, 06:26 PM

I have total commander, works 100%
Pocket Player, works 100%
Chinese addon on my sig, works 100%
Monster Chinese 5.3, works 100% (DO NOT use 6.0, will cause major problem and requires factory reset)
Pocket Tweak, works 60% (I don't use much though)
PHM Regedit, works 100%
slingplayer, works 100% (free with 211, use WM5 version)

Theemed · 04-29-08, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Ceril

Theemed - do you have a CF card in place while you use the Real VGA? Feel free to add any other programs which are missing from my list that you have had experience with

Alas, I always have a CF inserted... and about the list, well, nothing major to add comes to mind, unless you want to include the old version of handbase, 3.5, and TodayAgenda (if that wasn't included already).

Oh BTW the correct name of the app is "TCPMP", not TCMP :)

04-30-08, 07:03 AM

Theemed - I'll have to try the Real VGA myself. It sounds cool. I was a bit afraid in the meanwhile because of the CF card problem which was reported.

Mingkee - thanks for the list. Any other Chinese language programs that you have verified would be great, if you have any others to add. Since my computer doesn't have the Chinese character set installed - it looks like just empty boxes for me, but I would cut/paste your word in Chinese Characters, and for those who can read it, would be able to do so.

Also, what is "chinese addon"? Is that the title of the program or is that a description?

Thanks goes to you all for your reports so as to make the list relevant to others

portchop · 05-01-08, 07:28 PM

PocketNES

- like many programs can't use buttons 2 and 3
- while using RealVGA in 96 or 128 the area where you can tap "B"
and "A" is not in the graphiti area but higher
- you can't push 2 buttons at the same time (like holding "B" to run
and push "A" to jump in mario, you'll have to release "B" before
pressing "A")
- sound isn't that good (somekind of echo or vibrato added or
something) but I think it's like that for pocketnes on any device.
- It doesn't save settings so you'll have to remap start and select
to calender and messaging after each time you completely exit. It
will also look stupidly in "ALL FOLDERS!!!!!" for roms instead of letting
you select the folder,
- like many other program you can only access first level directories.
This is someting I just cannot believe. You can load \nes\ff1e.nes
but not \roms\nes\ff1e.nes

Theemed · 05-04-08, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by portchop

PocketNES

- while using RealVGA in 96 or 128 the area where you can tap "B"
and "A" is not in the graphiti area but higher

Real VGA seems to create problems independently from the device, to such apps. I have the same issues with pocketsnes recompile by n0p, and fpsece, as the touchscreen areas associated to the buttons are wrong... still usable with some training in pocketsnes in landscape mode... but totally dead in fpsece.

dbacchus · 05-13-08, 05:37 PM

Can anyone confirm that Resco Backup works FINE (as long as you are restroring backups made from the same device, obviously)?

Since I already spent enough time installing programs, etc., I hesitate to try Resco, even though it should work fine... Any thoughts/experience to share?