It is my understanding that the HP 210/211 has wm6 from the factory, and because it runs wm6, does this mean that the HP 210/211 supports SDHC? If this is true, i am quite confused, because on the HP website, and on the HP 210/211 box, it says it supports SDIO, not SHDC. The Dell x50/x51 says the same thing, (supports SDIO) but it is not wm6, so it does not support SDHC, but since the HP 210/211 does have wm6, it should supports SDHC from the factory correct?
I have both a 16GB card and a 32GB card, both cards work, but neither gets anywhere near their rated speed. I suspect that is why HP does not claim it as an SDHC slot. Because it's only partially a SDHC slot.
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Pocket PCs are not designed to use the speed of high speed cards. Unless you are planning to use your card in a camera (which does utilize the high speed cards), stick with a lower speed card.
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Yeah, David, I never thought about that before, that SDHC cards have a faster transfer rate than standard SD cards, but you are right. So this backs-up the common idea that all the x50/x51 PDAs would need a firmwear update, but unfortinatly all the drivers there are for the wm5 axim's curently only go up to 4gb.
So, yes, the transfer/readign/writing rate would be slower, but i would trade my 4gb patriot SD card for a slow 32gb SDHC card any day.
Julie: I agree that the HP 210/211 specs says that it supports SDIO. It gets confusing because the Dell Axim x50/x51 also say that they support SDIO, there for I don't know the difference between a regular SD slot and a SDIO slot.
(Secure Digital I/O Card) A version of the SD Memory Card that adds Input/Output While an SD card is a memory card that simply stores files, an SDIO card can be complete hardware accessory. Examples of SDIO cards include Wi-Fi and Bluetooth adapters, GPS receivers, TV tuners, cameras, RFID readers, and fingerprint readers.
A device with an SDIO card slot can also accept standard SD memory cards, but not necessarily vice-versa. A device must specifically be "SDIO-capable" in order to be compatible with SDIO cards.
SDIO is NOT SDHC. Nor is a SDIO (high capacity) the same as a SDHC slot, this bit of deception and confusion and illusion permits HP to confuse the public as to just what they really are buying. If that slot was a real SDHC slot then a SDHC class 6 memory card would need to operate far faster than it does. HP has from the very first played very loose with just what kind of slots it's iPAQs have.
Thanks for the explanation, but I already knew the difference between SDIO and SDHC cards! Did you even read what I copied from the HP specifications and highlighted in red? Do you see what's in parenthesis next to it? Doesn't "high capacity" mean the card is also an SDHC card?
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Thanks for the explanation, but I already knew the difference between SDIO and SDHC cards! Did you even read what I copied from the HP specifications and highlighted in red? Do you see what's in parenthesis next to it? Doesn't "high capacity" mean the card is also an SDHC card?
Julie you are a Microsoft MVP, and yes I did read what you wrote, how about you? Did you even read what I wrote? As a Microsoft MVP we are not here to add to the general confusion. What you wrote can create the illusion that the two hundred series actually has a SDHC slot, it doesn't. And as I stated above no "high capacity" as HP chooses to use it does not mean SDHC! You will not find a SDHC logo on the iPAQ 200 series and there is a reason for that. Kingston has this on their site;
For added reliability and durability, our solid-state SDHC memory cards are built of nonvolatile memory components and have no moving parts that could wear out or break. All cards are 100-percent tested and are backed by a lifetime warranty† and 24/7 live technical support.
Features/benefits
Capacity* — 4GB, 8GB, 16GB**, 32GB**
Dimensions — 0.94" x 1.26" x 0.08" (24mm X 32mm X 2.1mm)
Weight — 0.09 ozs (2.5 g)
High-Speed Class Rating — Class 2: 2 MB/sec minimum data transfer rate Class 4: 4 MB/sec minimum data transfer rate Class 6: 6 MB/sec minimum data transfer rate
The iPAQ two hundred series can't meet that minimum data transfer rate. That is why there is no SDHC logo on the iPAQ. An SDHC slot has to be capable of transferring data at a rate above 6 MB/sec.
Just one of the reasons video is so poor on the two hundred series.
The original poster asked if the IPAQ supports SDHC cards. The answer is "YES". SDHC cards can be used with this IPAQ. That has been confirmed by many different users and I think the notation in the Quick Specs confirms that.
The speed issue seems to be a different matter to me, but I guess that depends on one's perspective. It is not my intention to confuse the issue with my answer and I apologize if I offended you by my answer.
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So basically, it is a marketing deal. SDIO does not mean that it will work with a SDHC card. SDIO, to a person who knows just SD and SDHC would only ba able to work with SD.
The sdhc thing is a driver issue, not a hardware issue. As long as the device has a newer os on it, like wm6, it will support sdhc. People have put the unofficial wm6 roms on their x50vs and x51vs and get full sdhc support.
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The sdhc thing is a driver issue, not a hardware issue. As long as the device has a newer os on it, like wm6, it will support sdhc. People have put the unofficial wm6 roms on their x50vs and x51vs and get full sdhc support.
They have also put WM6 on the 4700 and it does not support SDHC even with WM6 loaded, the Dell just happens to have the correct hardware.
So basically, it is a marketing deal. SDIO does not mean that it will work with a SDHC card. SDIO, to a person who knows just SD and SDHC would only ba able to work with SD.
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SDIO means the slot has input/output capabilities, it may work with a GPS, a Wi-Fi adapter, a barcode reader, etc. It by itself means nothing as far as the ability to read cards over 2 GB in size.
Back when HP released the first iPAQ h3800 They played games as well. That was when there was a lot of hype about what all one could do with an SD slot. But it turned out the SD slot in the 3800 series was not a real SD slot either back then. SD slots have 9 pins and I believe that the h3800 only had four connected. And before long HP had the h3900 which had a better SD slot. Then there was the 5400 which had a slot for a phone SIM card, and for a time hype about it's potential to be a phone, but again it wasn't a real SIM slot. All of these almost slots are great for selling iPAQs, and HP doesn't actually have to deliver a real working product. Kind of just like the so called docking stations for the two hundred series. The two hundred was suppose to have multiple docking stations, but so far we don't even have one.
I'm bumping this thread because I have a related problem. I have beenusing a Transcend 16 GB SDHC card (as well as a Transcend 32 GB CF card in my 211 since the first week I got it--whenever that was because it feels like at least a year--is that possible? (in any case, it was among the first HP 211s to go on sale.) After about a year(?) of heavy use, the SDHC has disappeared from the iPAQ.
This week, the 211 stopped seeing the SDHC card. For a couple of days it saw neither card, then I removed the cards, did a clean reset, and the 211 now sees and works with the CF card. However, it's still 16 GB SDHC-blind. I stuck the 16 GB card into a PC-based card reader and there is every single file and program that should be there. I.e. the card is fine.
This happened to me several times on my Axzim x51v, but I attributed those times to the fact that I was using an 8 GB SDHC card in a gadget that's not supposed to read SDHC cards.
After a couple of instances of SDHC-blindness on the Axim, I figured out how to make the Axim see the card. But whate4ver I did then, I've forgotten now. My guess is that if I transferred all the datas on the old sdhc card to a new one of the same size, the 211 would see it again. But I don't want to buy another 16 GB SDHC card. And since it works fine in my PC card reader, it's not broken.
Anyone have any ideas how to solve this problem? I'd be very grateful for some help.
I figured it out. I hope. I decided that I needed to wake up the card. (Don't try to find any real live logic here.) So, I noticed that I had a new folder on the SDHC card: [tilde]recycled. Never showed up there before. So, using the reader on my PC, I deleted the contents of the recycled folder. When I plugged the card backinto the 211, there is was--alive and well. Man, I hope this stays put for a little while. If not...
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Class 4: 4 MB/sec minimum data transfer rate
They played games as well. That was when there was a lot of hype about what all one could do with an SD slot. But it turned out the SD slot in the 3800 series was not a real SD slot either back then. SD slots have 9 pins and I believe that the h3800 only had four connected. And before long HP had the h3900 which had a better SD slot. Then there was the 5400 which had a slot for a phone SIM card, and for a time hype about it's potential to be a phone, but again it wasn't a real SIM slot. 
All of these almost slots are great for selling iPAQs, and HP doesn't actually have to deliver a real working product. Kind of just like the so called docking stations for the two hundred series. The two hundred was suppose to have multiple docking stations, but so far we don't even have one.
