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Old 08-30-04, 05:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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h6340 processor difference question
Can anyone tell me what is difference between

Texas Instruments OMAP 1510 (168 MHz)

processor built in h6340, and processor

Intel PXA270 (624MHz) built in h4700 model of Ipaq.

I'm asking this because price for this two product is almost same, with almost the same features, but with difference in processor

Some technology difference? Which one is better?

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Old 08-30-04, 06:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The main difference is that the 6340 is a essentially smartphone and the 4700 is a PDA. The OMPA processor is sufficient for communicatiopns functions while extending battary life. The heavy multimedia and graphics apps of the 4700 require a more powerful chip.

I am a bit surprised you say the two devices are similar. In fact, their features are entirely different with the exception of price. It is like saying that an apple and a roast chicken are similar since you saw them both in the same grocery store.

If you are seriously considering purchasing one of these models you may want to do your research again before you waste your money on a device you don't know the capabilities of.

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Old 08-30-04, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Apples & Chickens?
Originally Posted by RobertS
I am a bit surprised you say the two devices are similar. In fact, their features are entirely different with the exception of price. It is like saying that an apple and a roast chicken are similar since you saw them both in the same grocery store.
While they certainly have many different features, I wouldn't call them apples and chickens -- more like chickens and ducks. They from the same general family (HP iPAQs), both Pocket PCs and so on.

The biggest difference, as you said, is that one is a phone, while the other is strictly a PDA -- but that PDA is a powerful one with VGA, two expansion slots, Windows Mobile 2003 SE and the aforementioned 624 MHz processor.

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Either way, I like apples, chickens, and ducks. But it seems like a better comparison to simply say that the h6315 is slower, has a camera, and has a cell phone. The HX4705 is faster, no camera, no cell phone, additional expansion slot. I hardly see how comparing chickens and ducks will help in this matter.
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Old 08-30-04, 06:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Either way, I like apples, chickens, and ducks. But it seems like a better comparison to simply say that the h6315 is slower, has a camera, and has a cell phone. The HX4705 is faster, no camera, no cell phone, additional expansion slot. I hardly see how comparing chickens and ducks will help in this matter.
I think the point Robert was making was that the devices weren't as similar as Dragicevic said. There's a lot more than a processor difference, which was certainly worth pointing out.

However, except for the camera (and I'm not sure the model Dragicevic asked about -- the 6340, not the 6315 -- will have one), I did mention everything you did. In fact, I also added two minor details you left out -- VGA and Windows Mobile 2003 SE -- as things the 4705 has that aren't in the 6300 series.

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The VGA screen is, in my opinion a major deal and the WM 2003 SE is only a major deal if you have a VGA screen. I just thought that I'd state my opinion that people shouldn't be so overworked about wanting WM2003 SE when you look at the advantages. Who knows (I totally doubt it), but HP may release updates for older ipaq's in the future. However, I doubt they will release them for like the 3800 series or 3900 series because they are so old. I have the 3800 and I have not even purchased WM 2003 because I don't see why I need it.
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I forgot to say that the H6315 has the camera and the other model (which I haven't seen, I'm sure doesn't have the camera). For proof, just go to eCost at http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/...=464827#scroll
and look at the camera specs (h6315 only).
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Originally Posted by benn600
I forgot to say that the H6315 has the camera and the other model (which I haven't seen, I'm sure doesn't have the camera). For proof, just go to eCost at http://www.ecost.com/ecost/ecsplash/...=464827#scroll
and look at the camera specs (h6315 only).
I know the 6315 has a camera; at pocketnow, we did one of the first reviews of it.

The point was that telling Dragicevic that the 6315 has a camera is kind of irrelevant when he asked about the 6340. From what I've read, the 6340 is a European version of the 6315 and the camera will be optional, but I don't know how they'll handle the option (different model numbers, like 6340 and 6350, or something else).

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Old 09-13-04, 08:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Question still not answered
I certainly agree that the two models are far from being similar...

dragicevic main concern was not a feature comparison of hte two devices. Rather he wanted to know what the differences are between Texas Instruments OMAP 1510 and Intel PXA270.

So far, this thread has taught that

a) the Texas is better power saving thus slower

I'm eager to learn more differences myself as I want to make a decision whether to buy the hx4700 or the h6340. I'm well aware that it's not the same thing, however, along with a Bluetooth cell phone, the hx4700 might (at least) match the h6340 at hte inconvenience of a second device. However, it provides more computing power, bigger display...

So, what are other differences between teh two processors and what does the difference of the processor mean in reality?
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Originally Posted by gregtheswiss
dragicevic main concern was not a feature comparison of hte two devices. Rather he wanted to know what the differences are between Texas Instruments OMAP 1510 and Intel PXA270.

So far, this thread has taught that

a) the Texas is better power saving thus slower

I'm eager to learn more differences myself as I want to make a decision whether to buy the hx4700 or the h6340.
I believe that the TI OMAP was designed as a microprocessor to support converged PDA/phone devices. I think it's a dual-core processor with an ARM-compatible processor and a Digital Signal Processor (DSP) to handle phone and multimedia tasks.

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