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Old 12-08-04, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about Betaplayer performance on 4700
I'm looking at getting one of the new VGA pdas. One of the big things I want from it is to be able to play video well. I've looked a lot into betaplayer, but I have a couple questions that I wasn't able to find answers for online yet.

First, on the betaplayer website, it has some performance listings. It has the first page, which shows test up to the XG video sample. Then it has the Hi performance page. I was wondering if anyone has tried some of the videos on the hi performance page and could give some feedback as to how it performs. The point being that I have a lot of videos that probably come in at the 2Mbps mark. The x50v does great on these, but that seems to be due to the intel graphics chip in there. Could someone try some of these sample videos and say what they get for performance numbers?

Second, I've heard and read about the differences between the CF SD and Microdrives for speed and cpu use. I had heard that SD uses less cpu than the CF because there was specific hardware for transfering the data, whereas CF had to be done using the processor. But, is this also true for microdrives? I would expect so, but I can't really know since I don't have an hx4700 to try on.

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Old 12-09-04, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The hx4700 plays the videos at beta player's website wonderfully.

Microdrives use more battery life when they have to spin-up to cache data. Betaplayer has a "microdrive setting" that makes the cache larger to help improve battery life.
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Old 12-09-04, 07:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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DIVX files suffer from a fading in and out with a green tint; its better to encode films as MPEGS...the picture is excellent; even DIVX files are good
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Old 12-09-04, 07:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tinker2000
DIVX files suffer from a fading in and out with a green tint; its better to encode films as MPEGS...the picture is excellent; even DIVX files are good
I don't seem to suffer from this
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Old 12-09-04, 07:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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BetaPlayer is working wonderfully for me. I used Pocket-DVD Studio to copy music videos, and movies etc for use on my PPC. Quality and performance have been excellent, even when I use full screen, landscape mode files.

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Old 12-09-04, 11:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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would someone mind trying the vga1500 or vga2000 and 29fps video samples at

http://blogs.shintak.info/articles/969.aspx

those are the ones that don't have any stats and that i'm worried about. I appreciate all of you telling me that the videos there work fine, i'm just not sure if you meant the videos on the benchmark summary page or on the hi performance page.

Thanks, I hope to have this narrowed down soon!
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Old 12-10-04, 10:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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for the vga1500 i get:

average speed : 139.30%
video frames : 3400

bench time : 1:41.801
bench frame rate : 33.40
bench sample rate : 61379
dench data rate : 2.3 Mbit/s

original time : 2:21.808
original frame rate : 23.98
original sample rate : 44100
original data rate : 1.6 Mbit/s

for vga2000 i get :

average speed : 129.23
video frames : 3400

bench time : 1:49.734
bench frame rate : 30.98
bench sample rate : 56942
dench data rate : 2.7 Mbit/s

original time : 2:21.808
original frame rate : 23.98
original sample rate : 44100
original data rate : 2.1 Mbit/s

hope this is helpful...

oh, and both clips were run from a CF microdrive...
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Old 12-10-04, 12:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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BetaPlayer and Pocket DVD is wonderful on my HX4700. It's the best I found for DVD and movie playing. It's lightning fast for translation, rock stable and self explaning. Yes, there is sometimes a little short green tint blure but overall the quality is excellent.
DVD2PPC is a nightmare, it crashes and the author is an arrogant barve.

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Old 12-10-04, 06:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow that's great. That sounds like it can handle that level of video perfectly.

Thanks for checking those.

Would you mind also checking the 29fps version of the vga2000? It's the link that says 29fps directly under the word vga2000. It's kind of hard to see.
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Old 12-10-04, 07:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tinker2000
DIVX files suffer from a fading in and out with a green tint; its better to encode films as MPEGS...the picture is excellent; even DIVX files are good
hmmmm ive never ever had this green tint problem ppl are talking about......
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Old 12-10-04, 10:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jinXiong
hmmmm ive never ever had this green tint problem ppl are talking about......
I have with an ATI card in my desktop (ATI x800xt), so I know well what he's referring to. I don't use my 4700 for video so I can't sat if it suffers the same problem.
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Old 12-10-04, 10:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For some reason when I use the Divx encoding option on Pocket DVD Studio I also get a green tint that fades in and out on movies. This does not happen when I use the Xvid option. If it has something to do with the Ati chip than only the 4700 would have this problem as far as Ipaqs are concerned.
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Old 12-13-04, 09:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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for the vga2000 29fps i get:

average speed : 115.85%
video frames : 4251

bench time : 2.02.432
bench frame rate : 34.72
bench sample rate : 51009
dench data rate : 2.4 Mbit/s

original time : 2:21.808
original frame rate : 29.97
original sample rate : 44100
original data rate : 2.1 Mbit/s
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Old 12-14-04, 04:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Just for the record, I get similar benchmark results with both files. 141% with the 1500kB file, 131% with the 2k
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Old 12-14-04, 06:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Buggy ATI Graphics Chip
From What I;ve heard there is a bug in the ATI graphics chip that causes momentary greenish flicker (green screen) in movies encoded with Divx. Not a big deal, but noticeable. I don't think that it's fixable either because my big CPU has an ATI All-In-Wonder card and has the same problem. Nvidia new chip however doesn't have that problem.
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