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Old 12-27-04, 08:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4700 impressions & questions
I have had it for two weeks now and am hooked. Few annoyances all related to Windows...

Why the hell can't I install a program without my host computer? I have been on vacation for a week and have found tons of cool software but it won't let me install anything without my computer back at home. Even when I find a CAB file I can't use it because POS PIE won't let me download it. It just tries to load it as html code.

Which brings me to observation two... why does PIE suck so bad? Microsoft has been making browsers for a decade. I can't even save a picture on a website.

Observation 3... why does Windows SE suck so bad? I would rather run Windows 95. Why don't you coders design a W95 emulator instead of another Nintendo emulator? Of course it won't do me anygood. I can't install anything until I get home.

Observation 4... My Nokia came with a 300 page textbook of a manual. My 4700 came with a fold out brochure. Why is that? And why does my Nokia predictive text work better then this stylus pecking crap? I would rather type on the cell phone then do what I am doing now. And don't dare say get a keyboard. If I wanted to lug all that around I would get a laptop.

Ok that's enough for now. I do love the 4700.

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For your CAB download problems you have to blame the site maintainers who don't send the correct mime types for CAB files. They tell your PIE it's text/plain instead of application/octed-stream, so PIE just shows plain text instead of saving the CAB for installation.
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late observation...

Does Microwave (sic, blame the suggest) have any way to patch/upgrade this OS? Or do they believe this thing is LOL secure?

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Old 12-27-04, 09:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I doubt that you read your Nokia 300 page manual. On the CD-ROM you will notice a comprehensive guide for your 4700. But then, in this forum you will get much better and up-to-date information, anyway.
Whats wrong with Windows SE?
At least the 4700 comes with a metal body (except this lousy plastic cover)and not cheap plastic crap like the Nokia phones, which will break after a year of usage.
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Yes I read the 300pp manual. No, I do not approve of Cd-rom manuals. They are no replacement for hard copy. I agree, the 4700 is a well designed superb unit and much better put together then any Nokia. So why can't it come with a real manual?

What's wrong with SE? Is that a joke?

late late observation... why is usb support on these things so hard?

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Why did you buy the 4700 then?
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The touchpad is much worse than a missing manual.
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Originally Posted by aroundlsu
I have had it for two weeks now and am hooked. Few annoyances all related to Windows...

Why the hell can't I install a program without my host computer? I have been on vacation for a week and have found tons of cool software but it won't let me install anything without my computer back at home. Even when I find a CAB file I can't use it because POS PIE won't let me download it. It just tries to load it as html code.

Which brings me to observation two... why does PIE suck so bad? Microsoft has been making browsers for a decade. I can't even save a picture on a website.

Observation 3... why does Windows SE suck so bad? I would rather run Windows 95. Why don't you coders design a W95 emulator instead of another Nintendo emulator? Of course it won't do me anygood. I can't install anything until I get home.

Observation 4... My Nokia came with a 300 page textbook of a manual. My 4700 came with a fold out brochure. Why is that? And why does my Nokia predictive text work better then this stylus pecking crap? I would rather type on the cell phone then do what I am doing now. And don't dare say get a keyboard. If I wanted to lug all that around I would get a laptop.

Ok that's enough for now. I do love the 4700.

-teddy
Well for the first issue, there is a painstaking way to get around it, which is what I used when I was away from my computer...Use remote desktop to download the file on your computer, then run the setup for the file and keep saying next, at the end it will say "program will be installed when you next sync PDA", and it will store the cab file under program files/active sync directory. Then you just send the cab file from your desktop to your PDA, through your preferred method..I used usually either ftp or vpn, but you can just email it to yourself even.

In any event, I suggest everyone try out terminal service client (remote desktop) as it can be extremely handy, and convenient.

Next, I agree PIE is a POS. Doesn't even resize images in VGA so unless you go to SE_VGA mode webpages look basically the same as they did in QVGA. Someone needs to make a new browser that fixes this. I don't want fancy tabs or 10 windows open, I just want a browser that works.

Finally, I don't really have any problems with SE, you just have to make sure the programs you install are vga friendly, especially on the today screen...Most of it is trial and error, but if you can get a stable set of programs installed, then you will have a stable OS.
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