Raiderhp4700

As I promised I would outline these steps a little clearer and a bit more precise. THEY WORK ! knowing how we have to scrounge for ever single meg on the 4700, a gain of 4 to 6 should be very much appreciated by
by all who had little left, or just want to start clean with more.
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Boot Memory Increase steps. 4700
1. Hard Reset
2. Delete Unused Pics in My PICTURES folder ( I left canoe in)
3. Delete Help Folder (or move it to ipaq store folder, your choice)
4. Move Icons from "Start" Folder (this step might depend on what you use, I don't use blootooth so moving it is no big deal. I have noticed that Blootooth does not start up after moving its icon (to the fonts folder, but you can always move it back if needed and do soft reset) but that doesn't bother me, along with the others ive moved, which are dbmirror,poutlook,cwtimeout and tasks. I have experienced no probs doing this but I don't do outlook on it either..so if you do..that one might have to stay.. its simple..if you move one and something doesn't work..just put it back.
5. Reinstalled any and all programs into IPAQ FILE STORE,
6. Went thru and moved or deleted any thing from windows that wasn't needed
( usually after hard reset..just whacking the help folder is all that's needed)
NOW DO A SOFT RESET
NOW DO A MEMORY SLIDER ADUSTMENT TO THE LEFT
I GET 42 MB AVAILABLE FOR RUNNING PROGRAMS.
NOW AFTER INSTALLING A LOT OF PGMS, THIS WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN TO 40..

your particular unit may show a little more or less.. but you will see good gains. good luck

swhoutx035

Originally Posted by Raiderhp4700

As I promised I would outline these steps a little clearer and a bit more precise. THEY WORK ! knowing how we have to scrounge for ever single meg on the 4700, a gain of 4 to 6 should be very much appreciated by by all who had little left, or just want to start clean with more. -------------------- Boot Memory Increase steps. 4700 1. Hard Reset 2. Delete Unused Pics in My PICTURES folder ( I left canoe in) 3. Delete Help Folder (or move it to ipaq store folder, your choice) 4. Move Icons from "Start" Folder (this step might depend on what you use, I don't use blootooth so moving it is no big deal. I have noticed that Blootooth does not start up after moving its icon (to the fonts folder, but you can always move it back if needed and do soft reset) but that doesn't bother me, along with the others ive moved, which are dbmirror,poutlook,cwtimeout and tasks. I have experienced no probs doing this but I don't do outlook on it either..so if you do..that one might have to stay.. its simple..if you move one and something doesn't work..just put it back. 5. Reinstalled any and all programs into IPAQ FILE STORE, 6. Went thru and moved or deleted any thing from windows that wasn't needed ( usually after hard reset..just whacking the help folder is all that's needed) NOW DO A SOFT RESET NOW DO A MEMORY SLIDER ADUSTMENT TO THE LEFT I GET 42 MB AVAILABLE FOR RUNNING PROGRAMS. NOW AFTER INSTALLING A LOT OF PGMS, THIS WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN TO 40.. your particular unit may show a little more or less.. but you will see good gains. good luck

Hi raiderhp4700. Thanks for the instructions.

LJ50

If you move the help files, will any programs linking to them update? Seems a waste of Main Memory to me, so I'd like to move them to the File Store, but would be wary that clikcing on the elp files (which I rarely do though) would cause a crash.

Raiderhp4700

would moving help files prevent pgms from updating..?? No. HELP FILES ARE NOT..associated with applications..they simply display information about the application and display links to the app or areas of it.

LJ50

Sorry raiderhp, what I mean is, once you have moved them what is left to link the blue "?" symbol to the correct place for the file?

i.e. If I click on the blue question mark whilst I am , say, looking at wireless settings does it "know" where the appropriate file is regardless of where it is?

Compusmurf

So, raider, you really haven't done anything that the rest of us haven't done already.

Try this...

If you don't use the "screensaver" delete it completely. It only slows down your machine.
Also, the BT phone crap, delete.
Also, use memmaid and move a bunch of dlls to your file store.
Also, use SK, Memmaid or Tweaks2k and move IE temp, cookies, avantgo and mail attachments to storage card.
With SK you can rearrange other bootup items and other Tweaks.
Use Tweaks2K and turn off animation, etc...

Dude, I was hoping you were going to give us some cool revealation....

Raiderhp4700

compusmurfed... i think your confusing 2...thats..TWO..DIFFERENT TOPICS RELATING TO THE SAME THING.. INCREASING MEMORY.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT """REMOVING UNESSASARY THINGS THAT ARE USING UP RAM, EITHER AS A BOOT UP ITEM, OR AS A FILE SOMEPLACE, TO GIVE 4700 USERS A BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM IF THEY CANT AFFORD THE HIGHWAY ROBBERY PRICE OF $200 FOR A $8 CHIP UPGRADE. IM GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED A COUPLE NEW ITEMS TO THE LIST.. PERHAPS IF WE CONTINUE TO DO SO..WE CAN WHITTLE IT DOWN TO 43 OR 44 MGS OF BOOT RAM... THAT IS A HECK OF ALOT BETTER THAT 23 OR 26 OR WORSE....
-----------------
THE SECOND TOPIC ""NOT"" DISCUSSED IN "THIS" THREAD IS AN ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER HOW TO REMAP EITHER EXTERNAL MEMORY TO THE MAIN VIRTUAL MEM POOL, AND/OR FIND A WAY TO SWAP THE TAGS ON USER AND STORAGE MEM..SO THAT THEY REVERSE... AND YOU HAVE 85 MGS OF BOOT RAM AND 40 OF STORAGE..

KEEP YOUR DAY JOB... YOU DONT MAKE A VERY GOOD GUNSLINGER...

gnm616

[quote=Raiderhp4700]As I promised I would outline these steps a little clearer and a bit more precise. THEY WORK ! knowing how we have to scrounge for ever single meg on the 4700, a gain of 4 to 6 should be very much appreciated by
by all who had little left, or just want to start clean with more.
--------------------
Boot Memory Increase steps. 4700
1. Hard Reset
2. Delete Unused Pics in My PICTURES folder ( I left canoe in)
3. Delete Help Folder (or move it to ipaq store folder, your choice)
4. Move Icons from "Start" Folder (this step might depend on what you use, I don't use blootooth so moving it is no big deal. I have noticed that Blootooth does not start up after moving its icon (to the fonts folder, but you can always move it back if needed and do soft reset) but that doesn't bother me, along with the others ive moved, which are dbmirror,poutlook,cwtimeout and tasks. I have experienced no probs doing this but I don't do outlook on it either..so if you do..that one might have to stay.. its simple..if you move one and something doesn't work..just put it back.
5. Reinstalled any and all programs into IPAQ FILE STORE,
6. Went thru and moved or deleted any thing from windows that wasn't needed
( usually after hard reset..just whacking the help folder is all that's needed)
NOW DO A SOFT RESET
NOW DO A MEMORY SLIDER ADUSTMENT TO THE LEFT
I GET 42 MB AVAILABLE FOR RUNNING PROGRAMS.
NOW AFTER INSTALLING A LOT OF PGMS, THIS WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN TO 40..

your particular unit may show a little more or less.. but you will see good gains. good luck[/QUOTE

I was able to end up with 41 MB available, but still have to mess with the slider after soft resets.

Compusmurf

Originally Posted by Raiderhp4700

compusmurfed... i think your confusing 2...thats..TWO..DIFFERENT TOPICS RELATING TO THE SAME THING.. INCREASING MEMORY. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT """REMOVING UNESSASARY THINGS THAT ARE USING UP RAM, EITHER AS A BOOT UP ITEM, OR AS A FILE SOMEPLACE, TO GIVE 4700 USERS A BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM... THE SECOND TOPIC ""NOT"" DISCUSSED IN "THIS" THREAD IS AN ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER HOW TO REMAP EITHER EXTERNAL MEMORY TO THE MAIN VIRTUAL MEM POOL, AND/OR FIND A WAY TO SWAP THE TAGS ON USER AND STORAGE MEM..SO THAT THEY REVERSE... AND YOU HAVE 85 MGS OF BOOT RAM AND 40 OF STORAGE.. ... KEEP YOUR DAY JOB... YOU DONT MAKE A VERY GOOD GUNSLINGER...

First, nothing in what I stated covered your "second topic" on how to remap memory. Maybe you need to go back and reread what I typed. I would have to assume you are responding to THIS posting, from what I put in your OTHER thread....

Everything I listed was relating to the first topic.

What I'm trying to say is that EVERYTHING you said, plus a ton more has been discussed and that you were missing some of the obvious things.

Oh, if you don't use the Print crap, delete it too, also, if you don't use the credant secure store stuff, clean it out of the registry.

I'm assuming you are going for Speed AND memory, right? Or just plain memory?

I've been "tweaking" Ipaqs since the 3630 series came out and have owned 1 of each model line since then. What's that, 1999/2000?

Please explain this line "KEEP YOUR DAY JOB... YOU DONT MAKE A VERY GOOD GUNSLINGER..." Is this your tag line, or directed at me?

Also, suggestion, turn off your caps lock.

pdms

Originally Posted by Raiderhp4700

compusmurfed... i think your confusing 2...thats..TWO..DIFFERENT TOPICS RELATING TO THE SAME THING.. INCREASING MEMORY. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT """REMOVING UNESSASARY THINGS THAT ARE USING UP RAM, EITHER AS A BOOT UP ITEM, OR AS A FILE SOMEPLACE, TO GIVE 4700 USERS A BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM IF THEY CANT AFFORD THE HIGHWAY ROBBERY PRICE OF $200 FOR A $8 CHIP UPGRADE. IM GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED A COUPLE NEW ITEMS TO THE LIST.. PERHAPS IF WE CONTINUE TO DO SO..WE CAN WHITTLE IT DOWN TO 43 OR 44 MGS OF BOOT RAM... THAT IS A HECK OF ALOT BETTER THAT 23 OR 26 OR WORSE.... ----------------- THE SECOND TOPIC ""NOT"" DISCUSSED IN "THIS" THREAD IS AN ATTEMPT TO DISCOVER HOW TO REMAP EITHER EXTERNAL MEMORY TO THE MAIN VIRTUAL MEM POOL, AND/OR FIND A WAY TO SWAP THE TAGS ON USER AND STORAGE MEM..SO THAT THEY REVERSE... AND YOU HAVE 85 MGS OF BOOT RAM AND 40 OF STORAGE.. KEEP YOUR DAY JOB... YOU DONT MAKE A VERY GOOD GUNSLINGER...

Hey Raider, Thanks for the contribution, BTW All CAPS = shouting. Not sure if you meant it.

Raiderhp4700

compusmurfed... heres a clue, it wasnt a tag line...

and it wasnt directed at you either,

it was poking fun at the attituide of your post, since you had it all confused about what i was doing and you were being a bit tense about it...

and the bit about the gunslinger....heheheh... well...hmmmm...i recall a line from an old fairy tale... "if the shoe fits.."

OH..IM SORRY FOR THE CAPS..!!!! SOMETIMES.. I FORGET MY GLASSES FOR THE MOMENT OR TWO I STOP TO USE THE PC..AND I JUST MAKE THE LETTERS BIGGER SO I CAN ACTUALY SEE A BIT BETTER.. im not like alot of you young guys.. im over 40 so I need glasses or i couldnt find my butt at high noon with a flashlight and a mirror ! ha! so if i forget and tyupe caps..please dont think im hollering ! very sorry!

UPDATE ON BOOT MEM INSTRUCTIONS.. simply deleting the help file from windows directory is WORTH 3MB OF USER RAM... goforit ! delete the help file..do a soft reset..you got 3 more megs of program memory.

Compusmurf

Hey, I'm pushing 40 here....

Also, Compusmurf (not ed) That's ok. I wasn't being "rude" with you in my first post. I was really hoping you stumbled on something big, thats all.

My help file directory doesn't have 3mb in it. In fact it has a whole lot less. Oh well. Maybe you are referring to another particular file and not the directory?

As far as being a gunslinger, well, I "sort of" was for 8 years. I still carry, and everyone in my family DOES shoot. My 10yr old is nearing competition level! So, I'm sure that's not the connotation you were trying to imply, but that "shoe" certainly fits....

abb1

Originally Posted by Compusmurf

Hey, I'm pushing 40 here.... As far as being a gunslinger, well, I "sort of" was for 8 years. I still carry, and everyone in my family DOES shoot. My 10yr old is nearing competition level! So, I'm sure that's not the connotation you were trying to imply, but that "shoe" certainly fits....

IPSC / USPSA?

Originally Posted by Compusmurf

My help file directory doesn't have 3mb in it. In fact it has a whole lot less.

Yeah, mine only has 164kb in it, not even worth deleting

Raiderhp4700

i had just sat here and watched it gain 3 mb by deleting the folder. im doing a hard reset now, will delete the folder first thing and check it agian...back in a moment

Raiderhp4700

ok.. i get 3 mb when deleting the folder after a hard reset...not sure why im only one that does.. maby my 4700 is no reporting that files size correctly.. will research it more.