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Old 03-17-05, 01:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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is se_VGA the real deal
i got his program from pocket gear and supposely it suppose to enchance the VGA quality of the screen.

the program is called se_VGA, has anyone used and if so, please tell me what you think.

good to install or no.
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Old 03-17-05, 06:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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well it depends
SE_VGA works great to activate true VGA 480x640. You get enormous amounts of content space, but that is about where the party comes to a halt. Using the extra contentspace in landscape mode you can pretty well load every website looking just the way it does on your desktop, but it is very very small, so it all comes down to the quality of your eyes. There are a few things you can do to prevent eye strain like setting up a bigger font.
Personally I don't want to change back to QVGA, Pocket Breeze can present my entire week's calendar on the today screen without scrolling (about 15 appointments with even more room present). It's all about that extra space. Stuff like AvantGo really profits from it, and since you can easily adjust the font size it should work for most of us.
All this comes with a price, if your eyes don't cut it you can get serious eye strain. And there are still a lot of applications and games being incompatible with the high resolution, the biggest problem I face with it are games using fixed screen coordinates (ScummVM/Arvale and numerous others) you can see the entire screen, but only the upper left quarter of the screen has any actual working coordinates. So if you want to tap on something in the most lower right corner you have to tap the corresponding location somewhere near the middle.
If the developers would have used relative coordinates it wouldn't be a problem but they tend to forget it. I asked PDAMill for help but only suggested a refund. On the other hand some people at SCummVM are looking to correct it.

I hopes this helps, anyway it doesn't harm to try it....
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Old 03-17-05, 08:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It is an excellent application enabling your hx4700 to be displayed in 'True' VGA mode. You have to look at the downsides though. First off, not all programs work in True VGA mode. Second, the font is small, although it can be enlarged by using some third party apps such as Tweaks 2k2, the font still remains small in some apps that make it very difficult to run and read. Here is the bottom line: If all apps would support True VGA mode and they offer to enlarge the text size/ icon size, I wouldn't think twice about running my 4700 in True VGA mode, but until it does, I am sticking with the basic 320x240 screen. I would suggest you to try it out for yourself as the application is free !
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Old 03-17-05, 10:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Maby Some Smart Company Will See The Light And Make A Replacement Cover Door For The 4700 That Is A Screen Magnifier.. Then We Could Use The Nav Pad And See The Screeen In Hi Res..
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Old 03-17-05, 07:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I use ozVGA, which is like seVGA but with more options to make it run smoothly. It took some effort to find apps that work well with this (iLauncher2, Pocketbreeze, Resco explorer, Calligrapher, to name a few) but I can't imagine going back. Highly recommended.
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Old 03-18-05, 12:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I wanted to thank you..for suggesting se_vga.. although im blind as a bat's azz..when it comes to reading little stuff... using my reading glasses..and segva..its an awesome experience on the 4700...and i think im going to leave it that way...AND I COULDNT BELIEVE THE PGM IS FREE ! MOST KEWL ! I havnt done much more than just install it yet...but looking forward to messing with it this evening over pizza and brewski.. yea! agian..thanks !
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Hmmmmm...........looks like the brewskies won...LOL
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I prefer oz_VGA - give it a try at http://207.153.195.134/

I currently run my hx4700 in true VGA mode for 90% of the time - i hate the big clunky feel of the standard mode and only use it for TomTom Navigator, Arvale and AoE II. Hopefully if will finish ARvale soon and TomTom have told me that Navigator 5 will work in full true VGA mode so I only have to keep lobbying the AoE II developer (mdn or something?) before i can stay running in true VGA 100% of the time (or until my eyesight gives up!).
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Although the buttons are a bit small, TomTom 3.07 seems to work fine on my hx4700 in SE_VGA.....

Arvale is indeed a problem, I contacted PDAMill about it, and they just advised me to get a refund, so if you want to be able to play that you have to switch back to QVGA.
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I just bought a iPaq4700 and installed ozVGA.
I found everything is small, but I can fully use the VGA.
Can anyone tell me the easy method to switch from VGA to normal or normal to VGA?
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well, ozVGA is supposed to do that for you - if you set your font sizes right then when you reset to truVGA or qVGA with ozVGA it will resize the fonts and things should look OK on the today screen etc.

The problem comes more with the other programs you use. You set them up to look good in truVGA, and if you boot up in qVGA it looks horrible or fails altogether, and vice-versa.

Things like font sizes are controlled in many individual application by a settings file, like .ini or similar. You can have one .ini file for truVGA , and another for qVGA.

For example, Pocketbreeze and iLauncher, which are awesome programs for truVGA since they are specifically set up to deal with 640x480 if you want them to.


You can set up ozVGA so that it adjusts the registry and gives you different .ini files depending on whether you are booting up in true VGA or qVGA.


I tried fiddling with this and ended up causing problems - due to my ignorance, not any failing of ozVGA. It can be done. But, since I have practically no reason to switch out of truVGA anymore, I haven't bothered trying to make it work. It is possible though, to have ozVGA look after this for you. That's the main reason it is superior to se_VGA.

Good luck
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