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Old 04-01-05, 04:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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uh-oh this isnt good
i was sitting here using the 4700.. had se_vga active in hi-res.. and
decided to switch it to std vga.. it rebooted..and the hp secure tools started...the bar going across was all way across..and the screen went black with the image of the secure tools bare ly visible... its locked up..

THIS COULD BE A SERIOUS SE_VGA BUG...
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Old 04-01-05, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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OK...pulled the battery ... reinserted..rtried.. it booted lit up.. bar ran across screen..locked up screen went back agian.. LOOKS LIKE A MAJOR SE-VGA BUG..
WILL HAVE TO DO A HARD RESET AND RESTORE NOW..
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Old 04-01-05, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ok did a hard reset.. did a restore... all is well...but svga is active agian.. going to try this agian.. if it happens agian..its definatly a se vga bug of MAJOR PROPORTIONS..
if not.. it was just a unlucky fluke...
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Old 04-01-05, 04:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ok.. it went thru the process without any hitch.... SO BE WARNED..SE VGA AND HP SECURE TOOLS TOGETHER MAY CAUSE YOU TO LOOSE YOUR ENTIRE SETUP... IF YOU RUN THEM BOTH... MAKE SURE THAT YOU COVET YOUR BACKUP FILE IN A SAFE PLACE LIKE FILE STORE.... YOUR GOING TO NEED IT SOMEDAY.. I JUST DID...
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Old 04-01-05, 07:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow--an entire forum by one person. You made it sound like the ROM was changed and that your device was ruined. I was relieved to hear that you just had to hard-reset your device, which I consider minor. I backup often and my data files are on memory cards...and I back those up too.
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Old 04-01-05, 08:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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HR is very bad, I don't back up nearly as much as I should.
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Damn Raider...LOL Thanks for the warning...I'll remember to never use HP tools. Hell, I never use SE_VGA anymore anyway...I might as well delete it..

What are the advantages/traits/etc. of HP secure tools? Never used it. Seems you do...I'd like to know more about it.
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I wouldn't mind asking a question about the built-in back-up software either.

I normally use the back-up option on ActiveSync, but the other day I was away from my PC for a couple of days and had entered some pretty important info, so I thought I'd better use the Sprite software to make a back-up to the SD card.

After doing so the 1GB SD card had gone from 890MB free to around 200Mb free.

Any thoughts? I could only find a file of around 5Mb called "backup", nothing else was on there that I didn't expect to see, yet the capacity had vanished.
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Old 04-02-05, 07:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Driftless
What are the advantages/traits/etc. of HP secure tools? Never used it ...I'd like to know more about it.
I use HP Protect Tools to secure my device.

Access to the device can only be gained by typing in the password/PIN at start-up (survives a hard restore) so basically the device is useless to anyone other than me, without knowing the password.

It can also be used to encrypt folders on the device so information stored on SD/CF cards can be secured so that even if they are removed from the device the data is still secure.

It can also be configured to close running applications and lock the device after a set period of time. I have mine set for 3 minutes, which means that 3 minutes after I power off the HP Protect Tools will stop any running applications, lock the device and encrypt the selected folders.

You need to have the device set to shut down after a pre-determined period of activity as this action wakes the device up and displays the login screen.
Once you get used to the device coming back on again after you have powered off then it is a great way of keeping it secure.

Sequence:
1) Power on
2) Enter password at login screen
3) Un-encrypts folders
4) Use device
5) Power off
6) Pre-set time period (i.e. 3 minutes)
7) HP Protect Tools powers device on, locks the device and displays login screen, stops running applications and encrypts folders,
8) Device powers off after pre-set period of inactivity (you need to set this for both battery and powered as it will not power off again if it is in the cradle unless the time out is set for both)

Hope this all makes sense
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Originally Posted by LJ50
After doing so the 1GB SD card had gone from 890MB free to around 200Mb free.
Any thoughts? I could only find a file of around 5Mb called "backup", nothing else was on there that I didn't expect to see, yet the capacity had vanished.
I use the iPAQ back-up whenever I make any changes or install software.
It it configured to back-up to the SD card which has approximately 450Mb of MP3 files on it in a folder and the back-up file of 6025K in root.

This is showing as using Resco File Explorer
Total Space 975.41Mb
Used Space 445.34Mb
Free Space 530.07Mb
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Old 04-02-05, 09:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks Ashley. Any idea then what happened to my capacity? Why did it suddenly drop by 700Mb?

I checked it using File Explorer and GSFinder and both said the same, though again there were no files out than that ~5000k backup file.
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Ah OK don't worry about it.

I just did it again, using exactly the same settings and it's all fine. Must have just had a mad-moment.

Thanks anyway!
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Old 04-02-05, 12:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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lol...was going to tell you to go to file explorer...tap-hold in the blank area at the bottom, then select 'view all files', thensee what was so big but you figured it out. lol
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Old 04-02-05, 01:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks anyway driftless. As I said earlier, there was no files other than the back-up there, that weren't there before. Looked like the capacity just vanished.

Not sure what happened. It all went wrong on Wednesday so when I got home Thursday I reformatted the SD card in the laptop's card drive. Tried again this morning and all went fine.

Odd thought because the laptop wouldn't read the card after I the problem I had the other day. Seems fine now. As I said, maybe the iPaq just had a mad moment, or more likely I did!

Thanks anyway.
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Old 04-03-05, 03:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Glad to hear you have got it sorted LJ.

Just put it down to one of the myriad of unexplained happenings that occur when working with computers
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