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Old 05-10-05, 07:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hx4700 Users needed! HELP!!
I stupidly tried to flash my hx4700 with the Windows Mobile 2005 beta rom and now it wont boot! I can get to the bootloader but I dont know what do do from there.

How do I flash it back to the default hx4700 rom? Can anyone who has a hx4700 copy their rom and tell me how to reflash mine?

I will pay $50.00 to anyone who can help me out and make my ipaq work again.

See below for additional info on my problem
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=39942
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Old 05-10-05, 07:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SniperGX
I stupidly tried to flash my hx4700 with the Windows Mobile 2005 beta rom and now it wont boot! I can get to the bootloader but I dont know what do do from there.

How do I flash it back to the default hx4700 rom? Can anyone who has a hx4700 copy their rom and tell me how to reflash mine?

I will pay $50.00 to anyone who can help me out and make my ipaq work again.

See below for additional info on my problem
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=39942
Sniper, I think there may be a license issue with flashing a ROM from one PPC and loading onto another one. Doesn't each version of windows have a unique license? Could HP Support help you I wonder?
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Old 05-10-05, 07:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bhands
Sniper, I think there may be a license issue with flashing a ROM from one PPC and loading onto another one. Doesn't each version of windows has a unique license? Could HP support help you I wonder?
I am talking to HP customer support right now but they are being stupid telling me to Hard Reset and stuff.

Do you have an hx4700?
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Old 05-10-05, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, you are probably SOL. I don't know of anyone who has been able to pull their ROM from their PDA, only upgrade, and even then you must be able to sync it to download the program. Now Chris on the other hand might be able to do something since he's a MVP for Micro$oft, plus he runs all these PPC sites. I suggest you give him a PM.

Since you are talking to them right now...ask for their head tech...admit that you were trying the leaked beta of WM5, you learned your lesson and ask if they can reflash it for you.
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Old 05-10-05, 07:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Driftless
Unfortunately, you are probably SOL. I don't know of anyone who has been able to pull their ROM from their PDA, only upgrade, and even then you must be able to sync it to download the program. Now Chris on the other hand might be able to do something since he's a MVP for Micro$oft, plus he runs all these PPC sites. I suggest you give him a PM.
Good shout driftless
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Old 05-10-05, 07:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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No one knows how to copy their rom?
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Old 05-10-05, 07:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SniperGX
No one knows how to copy their rom?
Sniper, we appreciate that you've got yourself into a bit of a predicament, but I don't think that copying someone elses ROM is your best way forward. Maybe it would be better to take this through official channels such as HP or MS. That way you won't be running someone elses software license.
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Old 05-10-05, 07:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This software is like the software that runs an iPOD, or the software that is loaded into a Gameboy Advance...it's MUCH easier to put it on a device than it is to take it off...

Either way...you must be able to sync it to flash the ROM.

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Old 05-10-05, 08:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Driftless
This software is like the software that runs an iPOD, or the software that is loaded into a Gameboy Advance...it's MUCH easier to put it on a device than it is to take it off...

Either way...you must be able to sync it to flash the ROM.

Sorry
I can connect with it via usb and even use MultiPort-TTY and run commands to the bootloader. I cant however use activesync to connect with it.
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Old 05-10-05, 09:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If you get no joy from HP (which is quite likely)

You may want to contact www.ppctechs.com and see if they are able to help you
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Old 05-10-05, 09:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SniperGX
I can connect with it via usb and even use MultiPort-TTY and run commands to the bootloader. I cant however use activesync to connect with it.
Well...it has to be on, connect it to the PC, then another program is run to upload the ROM...just like when you tried to update it, however it still has to be able to sync, (ie. usable before you update.) If it sees anything other than the stock ROM, it usually doesn't work, however.

Rob also has the idea. They do wonders on PPC's and just might be able to help you if not Chris.

Good Luck and try not to do this again.
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Old 05-11-05, 06:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Tsk tsk, no one knows what theyre talking about. I have my ROM backed up on a 256MiB SD card. You do this by booting into bootloader mode (Itask + Contacts) with a serial cable plugged in. You then connect to it via a terminal emulator then run login with the password "BOOTLOADER". After this you run "d2s", as the name suggests this dumps the device-2-storage. You now have a backup of your rom (which you should have done in the first place!). To recover, you just put the SD card in, boot to the bootloader interface and it will pick up that the SD card contains the ROM image and tell you to press the power button to flash - no need to sync or anything.

As far as licensing goes - I believe the actual license is just printed on the piece of paper you receive with the device, it would be FAR too problematical for HP to change a license code within the ROM on each flash and then keep track of the device so the appropriate paperwork is associated with it after. I believe that all ROM images should be identical.

Having said this, I wont send my ROM image out (just in case!). There is no legal problem with people giving him their copy of a ROM so long as he owns a license to it in the first place, which he apparently does.

If anyone wants to share their rom with him, just dump it by following these instructions: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.c...inalBootloader

After you have it, boot up a Linux PC, insert the SD card, then run something similar to

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dd if=/dev/sda of=~/hx4700.ROM
Send the guy your "hx4700.ROM" file and make sure the he has the same size of SD card as you, then get him to run...

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dd if=~/hx4700.ROM of=/dev/sda
...to put the ROM onto his storage card.

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-11-05, 08:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ShALLaX, I didn't know that the license wasn't built into each ROM build. Very informative, thanks for that.
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Old 05-11-05, 08:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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ShALLaX, that post of yours was most informative! I shall be making a copy of it (as well as my ROM!).

Thanx!
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Old 05-11-05, 09:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah... it pays to keep a backup when messing with linux hehe ^.^

Note that this totally wipes any data on your SD card and makes it incompatible with any operating system (i.e. it has no filesystem!). You will NOT be able to use the SD card for both backing up and data storage. You can, however, reformat the card at a later date if you so choose.

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ShALLaX, I didn't know that the license wasn't built into each ROM build. Very informative, thanks for that.
Like I said - to me it doesnt seem like it is, but I could be wrong. The best way to check this would be for someone to do the d2s proceedure above then generate an MD5SUM of the image. Youd need to zero fill your SD card first to make sure any trailing/ leading junk is removed. Anyone up for it?... Or maybe just running the "checksum" command in the bootloader would suffice *shrugs*
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