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Old 05-17-05, 11:15 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by skibumtx
Ok,

Can someone post the best procedure for transfering the applications/data from one ROM version to the next? I know that any backup made using te current ROM (with the pre-installed back-up program) will not properly transferafter the newer ROM is installed.

Does Sprite backup work?

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I believe the built in version of iPaq back-up on your unit and Sprite Back-up are one and the same. Which DOES claim to have the ability to restore across ROM updates.

Per Shallax's post above - do a full back, upgrade the ROM and restore the back-up.
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Old 05-17-05, 11:15 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I guess I was to exited to update and did not read properly... thanks for the

I feel like
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Old 05-17-05, 11:24 AM   #33 (permalink)
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thankfully- i'm glad to report that the updater works as expected when the rom update fails (as in you forgot that the ipaq was in a usb hub and the power to it went bye bye)
it takes a minute or so until the computer figures out there's a timeout and then you just do a soft reset and the bootloader comes up. you exit the updater, run it again and plug in the ipaq. and you're good to go.
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Old 05-17-05, 11:26 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Hmmm,

According to the READ ME file that came with the ROM
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***CAUTION***
The ROM Update Utility is designed to erase and replace the
current ROM image and any existing ActiveSync partnerships
including all user data and programs on the HP iPAQ Pocket PC
and in the iPAQ File Store. HP recommends that users perform a
backup of their personal data using Microsoft Activesync or iPAQ
Backup before proceeding with the ROM update. This is only as a
precautionary measure and should not be used after the ROM update.

(NOTE)
HP recommends that Backups made from a HP iPAQ Pocket PC ROM
should only be installed on a HP iPAQ Pocket PC handheld with the
same model number and ROM version number from which the backup
was created. Installing old Backups onto ROM versions the Backup
was not created on may interfere with the operation of the new
ROM causing it to become unstable.
---------------------------------

Not a glowing recommendation for using the pre-installed backup routine.

I thought, maybe incorrectly, that the version of Sprite that came with the IPAQ was a lite version and that the full version had more capabilities. Can anyone clarify?

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Old 05-17-05, 11:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Backing up before ROM update-
So then I have a question. I did a backup, and stored it in my ipaq file store, which was dumb, yes. But, is there ANY way to retrieve that?
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Old 05-17-05, 11:39 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by darin1480
So then I have a question. I did a backup, and stored it in my ipaq file store, which was dumb, yes. But, is there ANY way to retrieve that?

Sorry, since the update wipes out the IPAQ File Store I think you are out of luck .

I don't beleive that an activesync backup will work either since all partnerships are blown away by the ROM update and you have to define a new partnership.


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Old 05-17-05, 11:42 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Thank you. I am an idiot, but with desktops, I always am on people to backup regularly, so I guess I deserved it, although I did backup! (just to the wrong place!)

Originally Posted by skibumtx
Sorry, since the update wipes out the IPAQ File Store I think you are out of luck unless you have a recent backup on activesync.

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Old 05-17-05, 11:43 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by darin1480
So then I have a question. I did a backup, and stored it in my ipaq file store, which was dumb, yes. But, is there ANY way to retrieve that?
If you have since did the ROM update then I don't think so - sorry.
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Old 05-17-05, 11:44 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by skibumtx
Not a glowing recommendation for using the pre-installed backup routine.

I thought, maybe incorrectly, that the version of Sprite that came with the IPAQ was a lite version and that the full version had more capabilities. Can anyone clarify?

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My understanding is that (someone please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is basically the PPC version of Sprite as opposed to the 'Premium' version (which has a PC component to it).
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Old 05-17-05, 11:49 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rob1303
My understanding is that (someone please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is basically the PPC version of Sprite as opposed to the 'Premium' version (which has a PC component to it).

I did some research at the Sprite website and it clearly shows that the Sprite version that ships with the IPAQ does NOT support "Device Upgrade Mode".

http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/per...paq_backup.htm

IMHO I think it's probably worth the $10 to upgrade prior to installing the ROM update.

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Old 05-17-05, 11:59 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by skibumtx
I did some research at the Sprite website and it clearly shows that the Sprite version that ships with the IPAQ does NOT support "Device Upgrade Mode".

http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/per...paq_backup.htm

IMHO I think it's probably worth the $10 to upgrade prior to installing the ROM update.

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Okay - thanks for the information
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Old 05-17-05, 12:31 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by skibumtx
I did some research at the Sprite website and it clearly shows that the Sprite version that ships with the IPAQ does NOT support "Device Upgrade Mode".

http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/per...paq_backup.htm

IMHO I think it's probably worth the $10 to upgrade prior to installing the ROM update.

Ski

OK, after downloading the software and looking at the FAQ at the Sprtie website it looks like there are some specialized procedures involving the downloading of another file (GETUPGRADEDATA) and running it on the IPAQ prior to doing the Device Upgrade. In other words - READ THE SPRITE WEBSITE before upgrading the ROM.

http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/an...wse.aspx%23p24

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Old 05-17-05, 12:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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There's 85.06MB of storage on the iPAQ File Store (I forget how much there was originally). I have Sprite Backup Premium which worked perfectly. Theres a 15 day trial (I believe) which should see you through the upgrade process - its definitely worth buying, though!

I didn't need to do ANYTHING special with my backup. I just made a FULL backup (including all persistent storage) - it came to about 150MB.
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Old 05-17-05, 12:52 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ShALLaX
There's 85.06MB of storage on the iPAQ File Store (I forget how much there was originally). I have Sprite Backup Premium which worked perfectly. Theres a 15 day trial (I believe) which should see you through the upgrade process - its definitely worth buying, though!

I didn't need to do ANYTHING special with my backup. I just made a FULL backup (including all persistent storage) - it came to about 150MB.

That's interesting. The Read Me file with the update clearly states that everything in the file store gets blown away by the upgrade.

I just want to try and cover all the bases before I update in order to minimize the chance of trouble.

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Old 05-17-05, 12:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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