imported_drkostas

I can't understand 2 things
1) Why falshing back doesn't resolve the problem
2) Why some people have the problem and some others (like me and all the others who hadn't noticed something strange until reading this thread) have no problem.

The answer to the first question could be maybe that the rom upgrade did also a firmware upgrade (it is different the rom upgrade with the firmware upgrade :the firmware is something like the bios). Maybe this firmware upgrade is not flashed back.
Have you checked the bootloader version after flashing back? Has it changed to 1.00 or does it remain 1.01?
Another possible answer (I don't believe it) could be some form of damage during the flash process. But even this is unexplainable.

I have checked standard battery, extended and neodigits case and I can't find any problem at all.

GeekyGuy

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imported_drkostas

Yes, this is exactly the same. But it would be better if we compared more information. Could you go to Advanced Details. A word document is going to open..
Go to tools -->File--> Save Document As..
Save it, then open it.. Delete your Name, mail, Serial number and all other important information and send it please to me to compare it with mine.

GeekyGuy

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alex_homepc

Here is info from my HP Asset Viewer

Version
Product Revision Level : 1.0
ROM Date : 09/02/04
ROM Revision : 1.00.09 ENG
OS Version : Windows CE 4.21
Bootloader Version : 1.01
XIP Version : 4.21.14132.0

So, as we can see, the Bootloader has the same version.
Is this a key?

imported_drkostas

Originally Posted by alex_homepc

Here is info from my HP Asset Viewer Version Product Revision Level : 1.0 ROM Date : 09/02/04 ROM Revision : 1.00.09 ENG OS Version : Windows CE 4.21 Bootloader Version : 1.01 XIP Version : 4.21.14132.0 So, as we can see, the Bootloader has the same version. Is this a key?

Yes, I believe this is the answer to the first question (why flashing back does not resolve the problem).
It is probably a firmware upgrade during the rom upgrade , which is not flashed back.
The other question about why some people have the problem and some others haven't it could be explained with different hardware revisions. This could be also an explanation why hp has not found the problem during rom testing process (maybe tests done in units which didn't show any problems)

alex_homepc

Originally Posted by drkostas

Yes, I believe this is the answer to the first question (why flashing back does not resolve the problem). It is probably a firmware upgrade during the rom upgrade , which is not flashed back. The other question about why some people have the problem and some others haven't it could be explained with different hardware revisions. This could be also an explanation why hp has not found the problem during rom testing process (maybe tests done in units which didn't show any problems)

This makes good sense. Well done, drkostas! You are probably the first to notice that. How make HP provide us with 1.00 ROM update with an old Bootloader included?

imported_mooseuk

Guys....

I've been following all the ROM upgrade threads with great interest, not having done mine yet I wanted to see what happened to the other users.

With regards to the Bootloader, I thought you might like to know that an original untouched hx4700 has the following information...

Product Revision Level: 1.0
ROM Date: 09/02/04
ROM Revision: 1.00.09 ENG
OS Version: Windows CE 4.21
Bootloader Version: 1.01
XIP Version: 4.21.14132.0

Which means Alexs Hx is back to pre-upgrade specs.

Mooseuk

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imported_mooseuk

With regrards to hardware revisions, when did you guys buy your Hx4700?

I purchased mine in at the end of March, so is still fairly new.

Also as a side note for you, I was reading a while ago that some users were having problems running applications written in .Net and there was a test to see if you Hx could run the .Net apps or not. I'm not saying that this is related but given that the test was being run on ROM v1.00.09 machines and it worked for some users but failed for others possibly means that there may have been a hardware/firmware revision somewhere down the line. Mine passed the .Net test, by the way.

mooseuk

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alex_homepc

Originally Posted by GeekyGuy

[font=Comic Sans MS]Here is my HP Asset Viewer info (I X'ed out anything I felt was private):

I have it all the same except Country ID=Euro and ROM version and consequently different XIP and mxip's and wi-Fi software version. Nothing sepcial.

Originally Posted by mooseuk

Which means Alexs Hx is back to pre-upgrade specs.

What a pity! The idea of Bootloader gave birth to hopes..... What causes the problem then? I am lost in conjectures.

GeekyGuy

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alex_homepc

Originally Posted by GeekyGuy

Bought mine in November of last year, and it too passed that .Net test.

I bought mine in april and it failed the test. But I don't think it's somehow connected with battery.