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Old 06-12-05, 10:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is hx4705 the exact same as hx4700?

I havent owned a PDA I am actually not sure which one to get. This one happens to be on my list of choices the other is rx3715 and hx2415.

I am so stuck. My first question is...to get on the web do I have to pay the service monthly like I do on my regular PC? How does THAT work?

And I notice it has pocket word??? so does that mean I can write my notes in class with out using paper?

IF I buy the hx4705 do I have to buy anything to make the system work? Or is it all there...and with the others as well?
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Old 06-13-05, 01:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Tabby, welcome to the forums! Firstly, I wanted to say that if you are new to the PDA market, the hx4700 may be considered overkill. You can do most everything the hx can do on a device 200-300 dollars cheaper. More on this later.

The hx4700 and hx4705 are the EXACT same device. Hewitt Packard uses the variation in model number to simply track inventory for their company. If a device is sold online or sold refurbished, it is classified as an hx4700, if it is sold new, at a retailer, it is called the hx4705. But the devices are the same.

Secondly, to get on the web, there are a menagerie of methods that may or may not cost money. If you already have a wireless network at home, then you can get online free. you can also get online free wherever an unsecure wireless signal can be picked up. Like, for me, there are alot of homes around my school with wireless signals, I can connect to any one of them for free right from class. But lets say you want to go and get online at Starbucks, there will be a charge for that. If you have a bluetooth enabled cell phone, you can connect to the internet through that, but, depending upon your cellular phone plan, there may be connection and airtime charges.

Thirdly, yes you can use Pocket Word as a digital notepad, eliminating taking notes at school. But I warn you, using the onscreen keyboard is meticulously slow, and I would reccomend you to look into purchasing a portable wireless keyboard for the hx, should you decide to buy one. I use my hx combined with my keyboard to take notes in class every day. Then I can wirelessly send them to my printer and have them printed and waiting even before I get home.

Lastly, no you won't NEED anything else to make the iPAQ work. It will include all of the necesary software out of the box. But most users choose to add what are known as "third-party" applications (programs available for download throughout the net) to enhance the usability of their hx. For someone with basic needs or minor needs, like yourself, the hx may be overkill because any PocketPC device can take notes in Pocket Word, and all of them can connect to the web (either with built-in wireless, or with third-party devices like wireless cards).

But should you want to go all-out and get the hx, you will find it money well spent. This device will blow the competition out of the water when it comes to more extensive applications like watching movies and enterprise usage, but, again, for the basic user this is way more than needed.

Should you have any questions about the hx or Pocket PCs in general, feel free to contact me at jnppc@comcast.net and I would be more than happy to assist you! Take care and God bless!

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Old 06-13-05, 04:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice post Justin

Tabby - welcome to the site To find out what a PPC can do have a look at the tutorials linked in my MyPDA (which is linked under my username) - especially the "What can I do with..." one.

If you have any questions feel free to ask them on the forums
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Old 06-13-05, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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THanks, Rob!

I just like helping out those new PPC users because I remember that I was there once too, just like we all were. I had the pleasure of recieving great feedback on all of my questions, and I like to return the favour.
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Old 06-13-05, 11:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you to both of you.

Justin, ok suppose if I get a cheaper one (which price doesnt matter that much just as long as I get my money's worth) which model is the best with it's performance and quality?
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Old 06-13-05, 11:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Damn...I wish you were around (wished I was here) when I got started. Nice job!!

Don't forget that the notepad can also let you take notes as a "virtual" sheet of paper as well.
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Old 06-13-05, 01:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If a device is sold on-line or sold refurbished, it is classified as an hx4700, if it is sold new, at a retailer, it is called the hx4705. But the devices are the same.
Not quite correct as far as I am aware.
In the UK there appears to be only a 4700 whether or not it sold on-line or via a retailer.
Also I understood that the 4705 comes with additional US specific software (WorldMate?) that has flight information etc..
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Old 06-13-05, 11:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I want to thank you once again. I have thought hard on this. After studying and researching for a good while where I was down to three to four choices...I have finally made up my mind.

I am going to pass on this lovely model it may be the best out on the market because I dont think it is for me..at THIS time...I have set my heart on the hx2755.

I may later down the road get the 4705...but not for a while...heck by then there will be a better one teehee...

thanks again...

my order is coming in a couple of days I cant wait.
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Old 06-13-05, 11:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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nah...my 4705 didn't come with worldmate.
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Ashleyj is correct - in the UK we only get to buy the HX4700, regardless of where it's bought from.

I bought my HX4700 online, but even in shops I haven't seen an HX4705.
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Old 06-14-05, 07:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Vill
nah...my 4705 didn't come with worldmate.
Odd. Mine did. And I bought it from HP. Hmmm..
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Worldmate doesn't come ON the hx4705 (in ROM), It's on the install disk. Maybe you missed seeing it on the install disk.

Didn't like the little part about it being listed under free software and then finding out it's not the full version though it seems to work OK.

Sure the hx4700 does more than some people really need, but it's also HPs only VGA option. I don't think I could be happy with QVGA now.
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Possum: I am with you. I picked up my friend's ipaq 3900 the other day and I was so disgusted by QVGA that I could barely use it. Once you fit 4 times the data on a screen that keeps it all vibrant and amazingly readable, you will never go back. I've been spoiled rotten by the hx's VGA screen.
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Originally Posted by Justin Noland
Possum: I am with you. I picked up my friend's ipaq 3900 the other day and I was so disgusted by QVGA that I could barely use it. Once you fit 4 times the data on a screen that keeps it all vibrant and amazingly readable, you will never go back. I've been spoiled rotten by the hx's VGA screen.

What do you mean "hard to read"??? As I said I chose the hx2755....have you seen those? are they hard to read?
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Old 06-14-05, 10:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Tabby your best bet to compare screens is to go to a shop selling both and have a look at them side-by-side.

The QVGA screen isn't hard to read as such, I have no problems with mine. But as you can imagine if you are used to a screen with 4x the number of pixels it seems to be a bit of a comedown if you go back to one.

Think of it as driving a honda after driving a jaguar - still perfectly fine, but not quite the same experience.
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