I have read the thread about the Axim Roms from a Russian forum and then I see this thread and I am confused.
I am not seeing the difference on this thread staying open closing the Axim threads.
My thought is a hacked legal rom makes the release of the hacked rom illegal and discussion of it a rather gray area.
Is there a difference between HP and dell with the discussion of hacked roms?
I own an Axim and was certainly interested in the reading of the closed threads but, understandably, the administration has felt this inappropriate and closed them.
O.K. I understand this but there is a double standard with this thread staying open as there was nothing going in the dell threads that is not discussed here or linked to.
Sorry for this being my first post and it being such as this but if this thread staays open, I think, in fairness, the Dell threads should stay open as well.
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Well, I'd say there IS MAJOR difference between the case of the factory WM5 implementation / upgrade x51v and the hx4700.
The former works just great with the AKU2 A12 and has no bugs - I would not necessarily want to update it to a hacked(!) AKU3.5 upgrade.
The latter (the factory hx4700 ROM upgrade ), on the other hand, is plain useless. is plain useless. Just imagine you would need to soft reset your x51v to turn it on; your battery would ALWAYS be depleted after night; you would need to put up with lengthy compactions whenever you need to use your handheld etc. You would want to throw it away, that's for sure! This is certainly not the case with the factory x51v A12 upgrade.
As HP doesn't seem to want to address these issues, manual hacking needs to be done to make the device usable (unlike, again, the x51v, which works just great without any manual hacking / ROM cooking).
BTW, on my blog, I was even asked whether I will elaborate on the x51v upgrade, which, also speaking (in addition to a lot of other languages) Russian, I am well aware of and follow on Russian forums. However much this info would be useful for my readers (particularly for people that don't understand Russian and would certainly welcome a tutorial from one that both has an x51v and speaks Russian to avoid depending on the BabelFish "translations"), I, for the reasons above, will NOT publish an article on it because I consider it to belong to the "dark" side (as opposed to the life-saver hx4700 upgrade). That is, I too draw a line between "good" and "bad" hacking.
Finally, BrightHand (in where there was a discussion of the new cooked ROM well before my article) didn't censor out the related thread (again, not mine - it was created well before me) either - see the BH link in the article for more info.
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Last edited by Menneisyys; 07-06-07 at 03:00 AM.
Reason: fixing some mistakes in English
yeah, there are new admins on mobilitysite.
the old admins hardly had problems mentioning rom hacking,
the new ones even deleted my hx4700 bootloader thread after it had been there for about a year, because they discovered it had been able to make wm5 updates into full versions as it skips the header.
(which had already been discussed among admins long ago and decided to keep the bootloader thread)
one of them said they would look into it and get back to me about it.. about 2 months ago.
so i've just posted a new bootloader thread but yer.. won't be surprised if they delete without talking about it.
very true what menneisyys said but i think it's mostly todo with it being mobilitysite.
brighthand probably wouldn't close any threads even if they directly mentioned cooked roms.
Menneisyys, I have read the whole thread here and the arguments for keeping the thread alive but there were also valid reasons for the Dell Roms threads to stay up also.
They were not in violation of the policies here any more than this thread and were closed.
I am just asking for fair play here.
The rom issue is the discussion of a rom that has been customized to work as users would like.
I am sorry that the rom update that HP has released is one that is substandard and rather useless.
You and other users have my sympathy.
On the other hand, there are users who felt that the Dell rom update was not adequate also.
I just want to know where the Mods and the Administration here draws the line of distinction between the two discussions.
This has nothing to do with closing this thread as it is with the issue of fairness and possibly reopening the Dell threads.
I am in the opinion that the discussions are good as long as there are no links posted for the roms in either threads.
Well, I think the best is closing this therad (if the other isn't reopened) so that Chris doesn't get into trouble - I will, then, link to an external discussion (for example, at BrightHand), which (linking other discussions instead of linking ROM's directly and providing a tutorial on them) doesn't cause any problems to AximSite.
Well, I think the best is closing this therad (if the other isn't reopened) so that Chris doesn't get into trouble - I will, then, link to an external discussion (for example, at BrightHand), which (linking other discussions instead of linking ROM's directly and providing a tutorial on them) doesn't cause any problems to AximSite.
happy todo that with my tutorial thread aswell. don't want them to get in trouble with HP.
it's just sometimes they've taken it a bit too far like when they deleted the 1 year old bootloader thread that previous mods had already allowed,
and certain discussions simply talking about bootloading without directly mentioning illegal use of roms.
Thread closed (maybe temporarily) while the moderators work out the specifics of the forum policy regarding hacked ROMs.
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Not looking for this thread to get closed tho.
looking to getting the Dell threads reopened as a result of this one still being opened.
It's not going to work that way. Sorry. At best, the thread stays closed, worst case is that we delete the thread.
If anyone wants to insist that this thread be deleted in order to be fair, I will be happy to do so.
The moderators of this forum have had a lengthy discussion with Menniesyys, and he has explained the differences between the two situations (Dell vs HP). He also agreed to police this thread if we allowed it to stay (albeit in a "closed" status). However, if we get ANY official complaints on the issue, then we will be fully deleting this thread as well.
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Exactly. If it was an upgrade of a perfectly working model, I wouldn't have dedicated an article to it. The old, 2.01 (2.03) version of the WM5 iPAQ was useless - it's a "hacked" ROM that fixes this mess and makes the hx4700 an up-to-date, highly useful PPC (except for the current problems: lack of A2DP, WPA-2, which may affect some users).
Is that any different from using a hacked wm5 rom on a x50?
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