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Old 08-22-08, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question HP NC8230: Lost BIOS pwsd!

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I've got quite an annoying problem here on my hands. I recently salvaged a dated nc8230 from my dad's office, fixed it up, and loaded windows xp sp3. It worked beautifully. I then loaded a custom version of Vista Ultimate that my friend made and encountered a few issues. Vista activation didn't work even though I happen to have purchased the real Vista Ultimate product key. And usually there would be a simple solution. Wipe the drive, load real windows. No problem, eh? Problem is, after the upgrade to vista, something went dreadfully wrong. Boot from CD is no longer listed as 1 in BIOS (before the O/S). Still easy to solve. And yet, only now, I figured out that I cannot access BIOS Setup <F10> to change the boot order.

So that's my story. It sucks, I need this laptop for university quite badly and don't have much cash to spare for a new mobo or laptop.

Can anyone help me with finding the BIOS password?

I've already tried all of the defaults. Is there someway to work around it? I have the serial number of the laptop and have called HP several times and yet they require a proof of purchase, which in the case of this laptop is gone for sure.

Thanks guys,

Chris (sorry for the long post, just had to get that written down properly)
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Old 08-22-08, 01:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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dell BIOS allows F12 as a one time change in boot order
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It's an HP Compaq tho. <F12> for on my machine is for Network Boot (something I don't quite understand, but have tried out - nothing happened). Thanks for the input anyhow.
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go to HP website and look for the diagram of the MB.

Look for the CMOS jumper, one position should clear the CMOS and any passwords stored.

http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/d.../c00970003.pdf

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1.2 Resetting the Computer
If the computer you are servicing has an unknown password,
follow these steps to clear the password. These steps also
clear CMOS:
1. Prepare the computer for disassembly (refer to Section 6.3,
“Preparing the Computer for Disassembly,” for more
information).
2. Remove the real-time clock (RTC) battery (refer to
Section 6.11, “RTC Battery,” for more information on
removing and replacing the RTC battery).
3. Wait approximately 5 minutes.
4. Replace the RTC battery and reassemble the computer.
5. Connect AC power to the computer. Do not reinsert any
battery packs at this time.
6. Turn on the computer.
All passwords and all CMOS settings have been cleared.

Caveat 1: HP and most manufacturers are trying to suppress theft by making this harder to do.
Caveat 2: This took me almost 4 minutes to find using google...

HP NC8230 motherboard - Google Search
and the first link that went to a HP site...

STFW = GIYF
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Thanks alot, although STFW=GIYF is a little harsh. F-ck it, you're right tho.
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Not trying to be harsh, just trying to make a point.

The world is too big to know everything, but Google makes it easy to look for it.

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There is an ancient and hallowed tradition: if you get a reply that reads “RTFM”, the person who sent it thinks you should have Read The F___ing Manual. He or she is almost certainly right. Go read it.

RTFM has a younger relative. If you get a reply that reads “STFW”, the person who sent it thinks you should have Searched The F___ing Web. He or she is almost certainly right. Go search it. (The milder version of this is when you are told “Google is your friend!”)

In Web forums, you may also be told to search the forum archives. In fact, someone may even be so kind as to provide a pointer to the previous thread where this problem was solved. But do not rely on this consideration; do your archive-searching before asking.

Often, the person telling you to do a search has the manual or the web page with the information you need open, and is looking at it as he or she types. These replies mean that he thinks (a) the information you need is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information than if you have it spoon-fed to you.

You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness.
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