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Old 04-20-09, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking of getting a macbook as next laptop

I'm thinking of getting a macbook for my next laptop. My main uses are:
email
internet
record keeping for the kids school
picture editing (thinking of aperture 2)
movie making

I have some programs that aren't mac compatable, but I understand with with some software it may be possible to run them. Is this true? I also read that macs don't get viruses like PC's, but if I am running a program to run windows programs, does that make the mac succeptable to PC viruses? Also, will I be able to sync my ipaq to a mac?

Thanks for any advice....
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Old 04-20-09, 03:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2200.00 for a mac or 1000.00 for a PC

as long as you do not click the attachment from that email from the person you do not know and have decent AV, you are fine.

There are Mac viruii, they are just less common because the authors haven't wasted their time writing as many.

if the app runs in an emulator, then you should be OK... if it runs in a virtual OS, then it is a PC. If you are running PC software in a PC emulator... why not just get the PC
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Old 04-20-09, 04:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I was bemoaning to my husband the other day how I would like to have a faster computer for my photo editing and movie making and he said if that is what I wanted it for, I would be better off with a mac. I am not opposed to changing to a mac because I hate my current laptop. It is painfully slow and crashes all the time. I'm not lovin Vista!!!!

Anyway, I'm not opposed to trying something new, in fact, I kind of like the idea. But I wanted to know if I can sync my Ipaq and run certian windows apps before I commit.

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well, here is a planning point if you'd like.

Vista BASIC is kind of crappy, in that there are many features in the HOME or PRO that are useful. Also many vendors put Vista on really underpowered machines... 2-4gb RAM and a good video card are really necessary to make it productive.

Windows 7 will come out in the 1st quarter of 2010 (guaranteed) and any PC that runs Vista now, will run Win7 better.

There should be free upgrades to Win7 on any Vista machine purchased within 6 months of the release of Win7... and as I said, if it runs Vista well now, Win7 will run better.
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Originally Posted by wdement View Post
Well, I was bemoaning to my husband the other day how I would like to have a faster computer for my photo editing and movie making and he said if that is what I wanted it for, I would be better off with a mac. I am not opposed to changing to a mac because I hate my current laptop. It is painfully slow and crashes all the time. I'm not lovin Vista!!!!

Anyway, I'm not opposed to trying something new, in fact, I kind of like the idea. But I wanted to know if I can sync my Ipaq and run certian windows apps before I commit.

Thanks!
Wendy,

If you buy a MAC then you're not only going to be spending more money - you'll probably always be having to do something extra to make the thing "fit". I concur with Radimus, just get another PC. The thousand bucks you save could be used for top-flight photo/movie editing software and a dozen other add-ons you won't be able to afford if you buy the MAC.

If you doubt this, go down to Best Buy and look. Walk around and check out how much software is available for the MAC. No doubt it's a nice platform but if you want trouble-free computing going with a MAC isn't going to get you closer to it. As I said before, you're likely to be constantly fiddling with something to make it work with what the rest of us are using.

Vista is a lot better since SP1. Don't buy the "OSX is better" line. Just run Windows and let all your stuff work. No emulators, no goofing around. Plug and play. Stick with what works. As I said before, MAC's may be nice - but they're not nice enough to be TWICE the price. Pop the hood off one of those boxes and you'll see the hardware is basically the same thing but you got to pay twice for it; and for twice the dollars you get the priviledge of running emulated Windows instead of the real thing which you WILL wind up doing.

Don't get me wrong, Apple produces some nice stuff - but if you want to be vendor-bound go ahead and buy the MAC. You'll find out a few bucks later that your extra expense didn't buy you anything significant.

Just my 2-cents.

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Old 04-21-09, 11:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Personally I'd love to have a Macbook, but perhaps more as a laboratory specimen to study the Mac experience. I know several people on other blogging sites that love their Macbooks, like Judie Lipsett and her contingent over at GearDiary.com. You could pop over there and get their take as well since they've doubtless used both. Tell 'em breley sent you. :D

However, Radimus and Codebubba make some good points. I've always been philosophically put off by Apple's control of hardware and software. Were Microsoft to do this they'd be screaming bloody murder...

PCs do have the advantage of having more variety (or at least variety driver support) and lower-cost peripherals than Macs I believe, so that might be worth considering. The real difference between the two camps is the operating system. Check out some of the pretty features of OSX here. OSX is out of the box better suited for graphic design and such, and tries to be more user friendly and intuitive.

OSX has some of the inherent security benefits of Unix/Linux-based platforms that make virus execution more difficult. However, what what many folks don't know is that not all security risks are from viruses. Case in point, Ubuntu running on my Dell XPS 16 just downloaded security updates, so it's not immune to potential breaches from other under-the-hood attacks. All operating systems have inherent security flaws, it's just a question of how easily they can be accessed. Windows 9x/XP/Vista is easy to break without proper hardening, whereas OSX is less so. Some of that is due to OSX's architecture, some is due to its relatively small market presence compared to PCs and thus it may not be as relevant a target, especially since a sizeable majority of commerce servers tend to run Windows Server OSes.

However, in over 10+ years of internet access and using Windows 9x-Vista operating systems neither my wife nor I ever had a viral or security infection that forced an OS reinstallation or catastrophic data loss. Never. Nada. Zilch. I am however, very careful and am diligent about keeping antivirus and systems patched.

OK, that was longer (-winded) than I intended, but just thought I'd throw in my two cents as well.
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Hi Breley!

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OSX has some of the inherent security benefits of Unix/Linux-based platforms that make virus execution more difficult.
The primary security benefits exist because no one wants to waste their time writing viruses for a platform that commands 1% of the market! If living on an island is your definition of security, then that's a valid statement! ;-)

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However, in over 10+ years of internet access and using Windows 9x-Vista operating systems neither my wife nor I ever had a viral or security infection that forced an OS reinstallation or catastrophic data loss. Never. Nada. Zilch. I am however, very careful and am diligent about keeping antivirus and systems patched.
Me neither. I've been running PC's since they were invented and have had only one or two run-ins with anything that even looked like a virus; and those were never on my own systems. I don't even use A/V software any more - my home network is behind a nice secure router/firewall. Very seldom any problems of any kind that way.

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Originally Posted by CodeBubba View Post
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The primary security benefits exist because no one wants to waste their time writing viruses for a platform that commands 1% of the market! If living on an island is your definition of security, then that's a valid statement! ;-)
There is some truth to that, which I alluded to in my market presence statement. However, it is harder for a virus to access OS X critical areas due to the requirement for account privilege escalation, which OS X and Linux are more stringent about than Vista's UAC.

But let's face it, the primary security hole and first line of defense in an OS is the USER. If the user in any OS doesn't take sensible precautions, then the OS is at risk.
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Originally Posted by breley View Post
There is some truth to that, which I alluded to in my market presence statement. However, it is harder for a virus to access OS X critical areas due to the requirement for account privilege escalation, which OS X and Linux are more stringent about than Vista's UAC.

But let's face it, the primary security hole and first line of defense in an OS is the USER. If the user in any OS doesn't take sensible precautions, then the OS is at risk.
I definitely concur there. Computers are still GIGO machines, after all.

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I appreciate all the replys. :) After long consideration and much research hubby did end up buying me a MacBook (the 2.4 GHz model). I am in love with it! I will have to purchase new lesson planning/record keeping software, but I'm totally ok with that. I can get an educators discount on a lot of software (even those not directly pertaining to homeschool) so I won't end up spending as much as I had thought.

I'm enjoying it so much in fact that hubby bought me a itouch for an early mothers day gift.

Thanks again for all the replies...I do appreciate all the opinions you all have.
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I appreciate all the replys. :) After long consideration and much research hubby did end up buying me a MacBook (the 2.4 GHz model). I am in love with it! I will have to purchase new lesson planning/record keeping software, but I'm totally ok with that. I can get an educators discount on a lot of software (even those not directly pertaining to homeschool) so I won't end up spending as much as I had thought.

I'm enjoying it so much in fact that hubby bought me a itouch for an early mothers day gift.

Thanks again for all the replies...I do appreciate all the opinions you all have.
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Congratulations to your new MacBook :celebrate

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After long consideration and much research hubby did end up buying me a MacBook
May we learn a little more, please ...

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As long as your prepared to pay extra $ for the same specs, b/c that is basically what Apple does with their products.

Windows isnt as bad as people think it is. The biggest reason people think Windows gets viruses all the time, is b/c they surf the net with IE6. If Macs had the old versions of IE integrated into them, theyd be just as bad for insecurity. If you use Firefox or anything besides IE with Windows and keep an AV program installed, just incase, and get Automatic updates its actually pretty virus free.

If you want Mac specific apps, go for the macbook.

Im waiting for Windows 7 to come out so I can dump Vista on my notebook. I hope Windows 7 fixes the issues that Vista has. Vista is okay, but somethings that were easy in xp take extra steps in Vista.
If Windows 7 isnt "fixed" then Im going to Linux and not looking back.
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If Windows 7 isnt "fixed" then Im going to Linux and not looking back.
And you think that will make life easier?

Took me about 2 hours using Linux to REALLY appreciate how powerful Windows is. Desktop Linux is a crude imitation. Ubuntu and Fedora reminded me of Windows 2.0 and the applications look, well, amateurish in their quality. No thanks. Vista on a bad day is 10 times better than any version of Linux, IMHO.

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