Rumor or not, it doesn't matter to me. Long ago I gave into the fact that purchasing technology of any kind gave me a product with quicker depreciation than a car.
How can anybody here (assuming a certain level of geekiness in all of us) not understand that technology continues to move at a blistering pace. Companies don't know which way to turn. They can do demographic studies and marketing research and still not cater to the public in its entirety. Us Dell Axim owners are such a small % of technology that it's easy for a company like Dell to push the Axim aside. I just got my Axim X51v a few weeks ago. Under normal circumstances and not being bitten by any upgrade bug, past experience tells me the Axim should give me years of enjoyment. In a few years, I'll see what's available to me.
Sidenote: I do not like the convergence that's taking place. I want my PDA to be a PDA.
Given that there is no real accessory compatibility between major Dell models from generation to generation, there is no logical reason to maintain brand loyalty.
Actually, there's really never a reason to maintain brand loyalty for anything.
I already assumed my next PDA would probably not be a Dell, and if there's a PDA/Phone out there with my name on it, it almost certainly wouldn't be a Dell.
I'm happy with my X30, it still has a year or two left in it, so I'm not opposed to the idea of a future Dell in my gadget collection. It's just that there has never been any milage in maintaining loyalty to any WM/CE PDA. Especially when the guts are made by an OEM company that sells similar machines under a number of nameplates. The only thing a brand can do to differentiate itself is price/service...price being an entry to the brand, service being a reason for continued loyalty. Dell does OK on the first, but falls short on the second, particularly with owners who don't upgrade every model change.
Convergence may be pushed onto us by the cellular companies and even the hardware manufacturers. They may even say it is the future of mobile technology. No one can convince me that converged devices is the answer considering most average people would not be willing to pay the high monthly fees to own full-featured device in which they would not actually use all of its functionality. Besides, the form factor alone of a converged device is too clunky for average Joe cell phone user. The consumer will ultimately decide the marketplace.
I'm going to be interested in seeing the new Treo 700w that runs wm05. Will be interesting to see if there are as many problems with it as the axims with wm05.
dropped calls will be the least of our worries now!
I don't care for a Convergence device.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
With mobile phones getting thinner and sleeker, suddenly people are holding bricks to their heads.
And I agree about the TV witha built in DVD/VCR anology.
I don't want it. I prefer components.
WiMax coupled with Skype may very well give us an alternative to the celluar companies any way. I think converging with celluar while WiMax is still developing would be a mistake.
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I'd actually be a bit surprised if Dell threw in the towel on the Axim line. I can understand the x51 line being brought to a close because of it's problems, but even management has to realize the lack of Bluetooth support has caused a lot of their problems. That's a reason to ensure the widcomm stack is included in the next round of Axims ... not a reason to shut down the entire line.
The only other factor I can see is if Dell is looking to sell off the Axim line (again ... bad idea when you have a lackluster product), or if they're really losing money on the device and want to back off until things get sorted.
Until there's something official from Dell (i.e. not a quote on a phone, but something released to the press), I'd say it's silly to second-guess. It'd be nice to have the ear of someone inside R&D at Dell, but I'm sure those guys are being monitored heavily.
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The reason I bought my x50v is it just flat works for what I want it to do. I have a phone to take care of the calling duties....if Dell switches over then when this one wears out (after the warranty ) I'll look for something new....by then I might just have a mini notebook of some sort....you never know with electronic devices.
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When my Palm's touch screen died, I did my research and wanted to get a smart phone. But here in Ontario, Canada just before Christmas, they were priced at $599 up, etc. That's if I just wanted the phone without a data plan. Treos, Samsung phones were on sale for $199-$299 but you had to sign up for an $80 a month data plan. And don't forget that Palm just announced that it would be running Windows Mobile in the near future. Where would that company be headed, etc.
Yeowch ...
So $599 for a phone without all the PDA bells and whistles of the Axim or get the Axim x51v for $399. I opted for the Axim, obviously. My company subsidies my cell plan up to $30 a month and that's fine with me.
Having adopted digital over 35mm early on, I have seen the slow 'convergence' take place in that market. It's just a matter of time, maybe a year out, when you'll see a 'photographic device' combining the focusing speed, interchangeable lenses, quality, etc of a digital SLR and the movie capabilities of the high end digital camcorders. They just have to solve the mirror lock-up detail.
So to me it makes sense that the writing is on the wall for pen-inputting devices. The next big break would be voice input combined with easy editing. And it looks like the smart phones might be able to offer this.
But I'm not getting worried. There will still be a use for my Ax and I'll wait a long time (read price drop, and not become an earlier adapter this time) before getting a smart phone.
So I'll just sit back and enjoy the fun and education found here on Aximsite.
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Originally Posted by donbmcd
... So looks like it this is ture it is Bye Bye Dell.
THAT is the problem with rumors. Relax until there's real information, and then worry about it.
Besides, if Dell made one last hurrah - an x52v - and got everything right (ready for WM5.5, widcomm BT, and everything else), are you actually going to sit there and tell me you wouldn't buy it simply because it was the last of the line? What ... you'd prefer to go buy another handheld which had known problems or was in some way deficient but had promised continuity?
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I agree, this is mere speculation from an unofficial source.
However, in case someone from Dell or any of the other manufacturers read this: I would not want a converged device at all. Please don't try and convince me to accept a gadget I don't want while forcing me to pay through the nose for it.
My cell phone is provided by my job, it cost me nothing.
If I had to have a personal cell phone, I would certainly get one that is used for just emergencies. I don't want to pay $70 - $80 dollars a month (do the math, that's $840 - $960 per year).
What's happening is we have a ramping up of the old marketing machine to dictate to people that what they reall want, no NEED, is a converged device. They just don't want to tell you how much you're going to have to pay for the device over the long term.
I'll keep my Ax 30 until it falls apart, thank you very much. Then, I'll go and get myself another stand alone PDA.
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I'm going to be interested in seeing the new Treo 700w that runs wm05. Will be interesting to see if there are as many problems with it as the axims with wm05.
check out the treo users sites - almost the same problems... if you look a little closer, you'd find that the problem lies mostly in the OS (WM05) rather than the device itself - and that says more than enough.
check out the treo users sites - almost the same problems... if you look a little closer, you'd find that the problem lies mostly in the OS (WM05) rather than the device itself - and that says more than enough.
And what stinks is that technology machine called Microsoft, a company that can fend off the government, can squash any competitors based upon the depths of its wallets alone. Someday it will happen. Someday, all of that wonderful software that's been lurking for decades will pierce the shell and flow our way. But for now, we must deal with Microsoft (unless you move to Palm, and use Linux)
I'll never buy a convergence device. Cell phones are usually heavily restricted devices that are designed to make phone calls and perhaps be a bit flashy in doing so. They are usually designed to work with one carrier only (Locked) and they are decently priced ONLY if you have a plan that goes along with them (mmmhmmm... that "free" cell phone really is worth $800+ for an unlocked out of contract edition...).
The only convergence device I would accept would never be made. It would be a PDA (or phone) that is a shell essentially. It has all the software that would be expected for the line, all unlocked and all cheap. The phone part would be a removable card that would slide into the device of your choice allowing it to then be a phone. Thus, if you want a converged device, you slide the phone part into your device (well, I would prefer a "backpack" attachment now that I think about it) and you have the converged device. However, the device would first and formost be made to be completely usable without that addition.
No more carrier lockdown, no more headaches. That is the reason why the carriers won't do it. Pity...
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) I'll look for something new....by then I might just have a mini notebook of some sort....you never know with electronic devices.
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