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Old 10-11-06, 01:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dyastrab
So am I. I've been using Betaplayer and TCMP for several years and it's been one of first programs installed on any PPC that I've owned. I'm definitely going to buy it, just out of gratitude. (I'm also sure that it will be a great program).
I plan on buying it also for the same reason, though a $14.95 or even a $9.95 price point might be more appealing for more people. But they have done a great product for so long for free, and it appears the free version will still be avaiable which is gutsy of them.
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Old 10-11-06, 01:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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maybe a slight discount for Aximsite members... a la SBSH?

I want to buy but I'm currently what's known as a starving college student
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Old 10-11-06, 01:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by akheron
If I close (proper close) CorePlayer while playing a video and start it again, the video starts from where it is supposed to.
The current TCPMP does that. I meant where you can setup multiple bookmarks. It would be a great feature to have, especially if you use CorePlayer for audio (books,podcasts,etc.), but, personally, for video, I tend to watch movies in short increments on my Axim and will play different videos in between, so its a pain to have to search back to where you left off in a movie. I think I read on the CorePlayer forums that it won't be a feature, but I was hoping they might stick it in. If anyone knows of a video player that supports multiple bookmarks, please let me know.
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Old 10-11-06, 01:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What's the latest beta release that was available? Still availabe?

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Old 10-11-06, 02:25 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What exactly are 'CoreCaster' and 'Seek and Share Social Network Sharing'? Doesn't sound like anything that should be included in a program not intended to be bloatware.
Have we EVER been bloatware? No and never will be... CoreCast is simply a 100% FREE alternative to current PodCasts. It uses CorePicture and Ogg audio within the Matroska Container.

Our free GPL CoreCast Producer 1.0 will be available in about 4 weeks to the general public.

Now I know I am gonna get ppl asking... but why an alternative to Podcasts? There are two good reasons... Cost and Limitations

Lets touch on each.... Cost is simple Matroska is free, CorePicture is free, OGG is free... any questions ;-)

Limitations... an enhanced podcast does one 'simple' thing which is show chapter pictures... while CoreCast files can;
- Show various picture types, PNG, BMP, etc.
- Can be mixed video over audio
- Can have 'fade' effects

I will go into more details after the launch of Coreplayer.com on Monday

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Old 10-11-06, 02:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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On 'Seek and Share'....

Think of it as a marriage of UPNP/DLNA and add in Social Networking/Peer permissions and you begin to see what Seek and Share is all about.

Or as my son says... Zune without the sharing limitations.
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Old 10-11-06, 05:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree that Coreplayer/TCPMP deserves a price.

Suggestions:

Release a trial version that works in full functions for a couple weeks so that prospective buyers can decide whether it works significant better than the current free version.

Disclose future upgrade policy.

Provide details about customer support.

A limited-time discount for Aximsite members is a win-win deal to get the fastest and fartherest words-of-mouth advertising. Aren't most of us opinion leaders in our work places and social circles?
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Old 10-11-06, 06:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Wait so CorePlayer is supposed to cost money but TCPMP is free?

Also I think the only thing thats CorePlayer have that TCPMP doesnt thats worth upgrading for is the playback of H264 mkv videos
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Old 10-11-06, 06:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by betaboy
On 'Seek and Share'....

Think of it as a marriage of UPNP/DLNA and add in Social Networking/Peer permissions and you begin to see what Seek and Share is all about.

Or as my son says... Zune without the sharing limitations.
I'm still not clear on this. Are you saying you took a simple file-playing program and added a Napster element to it? If I'm wrong, I apologize, but how is that not bloat?
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Old 10-11-06, 07:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm still not clear on this. Are you saying you took a simple file-playing program and added a Napster element to it? If I'm wrong, I apologize, but how is that not bloat?
I agree with you borderline. TCPMP and BetaPlayer were simple file-playing programs, now they have added features that I'll never use. I used it to play DivX movies and TV shows on my Axim not as a full Windows Media replacement.

And this Media Library concept, is this identical to every other program (Windows Media Player, iTunes etc.) that has a 'Library'? I hate the things, iTunes I can forgive but I hate how Windows Media Player starts adding every file you play to the library unless you tell it not to. I am quite capable of finding and organising my own media files thanks.

TCPMP is a great program, and in all honesty I would buy CorePlayer for the simple fact that you guys deserve the cash. But paying 19.95 for features I will never use, not at the moment. I have a feeling a lot of this stuff was added to make it more commercially acceptable and also more palatable to the less savvy users who see a huge features list and get out their wallets.
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Old 10-11-06, 07:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Otherwise... we will be releasing the new open source version of BetaPlayer 1.0 on December 4th
That's not how the old open-source TCPMP/Betaplayer used to work. There was no big sudden "release" without letting the user in on the progress with "unstable builds" every step of the way.

Since that's not happening so far, I'm already scared... :o
Looks like the open-source stuff has been largely discontinued...from the way it used to be, at least.

I remember the days people used to roam the forums over there, simply requesting a new feature. That feature would sometimes be added the very same day it was requested and a new build was always up within moments, or at max a week. That made me so happy I could've cried...

And I've also heard that some of the codecs that were included in TCPMP .72 won't even make it into CorePlayer 1.0... Is this true also?

Is there reason to my fear? :hide:
Or will the same old open, friendly, update method still apply?
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Old 10-11-06, 08:19 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm using TCPMP .72 right now I believe and it works fabulously. I do believe that I would pay $20 for this new Coreplayer with the added features (particularly skinning :approve: )

Now to my confusion. Betaplayer and TCPMP...what is the difference and will the December release of Betaplayer 1.0 trump TCPMP???
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I personally HATE bloatware. But the CorePlayer tech demo I have, looks and feels great on my PPC. Not bloated at all! The whole program takes only 1.82MB on my PPC (the final release version might be a little different) including all the plugins and skin data. I truely feel that one of the main things they always focus on is NOT to make their player into a bloatware. So I wouldn't worry there.
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Old 10-11-06, 09:17 PM   #29 (permalink)
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This is one reason that I hate the fact I got rid of my PPC. I was really looking foward to the release of this program!
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Originally Posted by akheron
I personally HATE bloatware. But the CorePlayer tech demo I have, looks and feels great on my PPC. Not bloated at all! The whole program takes only 1.82MB on my PPC (the final release version might be a little different) including all the plugins and skin data. I truely feel that one of the main things they always focus on is NOT to make their player into a bloatware. So I wouldn't worry there.
But I am worried, because I was looking forward to this release just as much as the rest of you. I love the current TCPMP, and use it pretty much exclusively for watching videos on my Axim. I'm just concerned because I personally know how addictive feature-creep can be for a developer.

There are certain files I have that TCPMP doesn't play properly, and I was hoping the next release would cover these, too. But while I was searching Google for information on this, I came across a posting that basically said Coreplayer will phone-home periodically. The post said it was for update-checking, but it also said if these connections didn't happen, Coreplayer would revert back to the crippled, free version. That sounds like a periodic license check to me. That sort of thing only really punishes the valid user, because pirates are going to find a way around anything the developer does eventually. That was when I first began to have doubts about this release.

Further searches led me to the information I've brought up previously in this thread. There was a lot of negative talk about BLOATWARE in the first post, but the evidence later in that post seemed to contradict these claims. I don't think I'm going to be an 'early adopter' of this package, as I was first planning. Much like WM5, I'll wait and lurk, and watch for issues to pop-up before I dive in.
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