The iPhone has been out for a while and has done very well, probably better than Apple's wildest expectations. It is a great Toy, does a lot of neat stuff, has a wonderful interface but it still is missing too much. So with rumors of the 8925 coming out in August, those of us that want the functionality of a Windows Mobile 6 device coupled with a very cool flip up screen that reveals a great keypad, the wait will not be too long.
I have and use the 8525 and love it! The 8925 will be a clear upgrade jumping to 128 MB of RAM and a great 3 megapixel camera. I liked Tom's thoughts particularly this:
The iPhone sacrifices functionality for usability which is great for the tech illiterate but for anyone with a brain the Cingular 8925 (on the left) has every feature the iPhone has plus more at about the same price.
Now it is actually less than the iPhone because there will most likely be a subsidy with a two year agreement. My guess is tha the release may well be a month (or two) later than expected ... why? The iPhone is too hot to introduce another device at this moment.
This comparison is just plain dumb. Not withstanding price, comparing the iPhone to a Kaiser is like comparing a Mitsubishi Eclipse to a Corvette. Two sports cars aimed at two very different consumer market segments.
I would have to agree with JNGold. I have used Windows Mobile for years and for the last two weeks have been enjoying the iPhone. Why all the haters? But in direct response to the news post, the Cingular 8925 has the same old resolution of about every other Windows Mobile phone device. When will Windows Mobile get away from QVGA which it has been stuck on for about oh ten years now.
Its about the right tool for the job.... there isn't and by definition cannot be a perfect mobile device, since a killer feature for one person may just be an expensive waste for another.
Still, If anyone would like to buy either one for me......
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Two sports cars aimed at two very different consumer market segments.
I certainly agree with that comment Jerry. One market that wants to "play with a device" and the other that (To quote the folks at WMExperts) "actually lets you, you know, work."
the issue is that the iPhone cannot live up to the hype.
People used to an iPod will be amazed, People used to PDAs go, "well, it looks pretty slick, but can I do ..."
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All PDA's were Obsolete the day the iPhone Came out
The Palm was never very good. Microsoft came out with pocket PC as a purely defensive stragety out of fear that one day inexpensive palm like devices could pose a treat to the windows monopoly. Ms was never serious about the palm market. Then ms saw a new source of revenue on phones and they suddenly come out with WM5, 5.2, and now WM6!
At least Palm's reminders work and the device almost never needs a soft reset.
I bought my x51v 1.5 yrs ago never dreaming of all the problems it would have. The biggest being the Notification Queue / Reminders issue. That led to 1 hard reset and for me to pioneer a step by step solution to the reoccurring calendar issue. In total I have wasted around 40 hours fixing WM5.0's and dell problems + $100 in software. That is way more $$$ than the iPhone costs.
The windows mobile platform just plain sucks. My friends pocket pc 2002 was much faster and more reliable than my wm5 slug.
Everybody abandoned the PDA market in favor of phones and who saw that coming?
Apple has got it right: 1. Easy to Use 2. Stable (hopefully).
Regarding 3rd party apps... the iPhone has been out for what 3 weeks? Give it time.
Power users? Get over yourselves. Apple is a very different creature since the move to FreeBSD unix and openfirmware. There is every hardware and software hack imaginable for MAC OS X, and iPod and I doubt the iPhone (also running on BSD) will be much different.
Apple will keep a tight rain on iPhone until they work out the inevitable first generation bugs after that things will loosen up.
The iPhone delivers the possibility of running (slimmed down) desktop software and having true integration with the Intel desktop OS X software. Microsoft only pretended that windows software would work on it's crappy pocket pc and that it was just like running crappy windows complete with a start button.
Pocket PC software sucks so bad it sends me running back to crappy windows like it is some kind of paradise.
Yeah Jack, I guess I have been proven right. Even a "power user" like Matt Miller couldn't resist returning and then buying another iPhone.
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However, the Apple iPhone is slick and so refreshing after using other Palm, embedded Linux, Windows Mobile, and Symbian devices over the last 10 years that I was pulled back to it. At this time, the iPhone isn’t necessarily about features, but about smooth integration and a new user experience that appeals even to power users like me.
And then another "power user", Kevin Tofel went out and bought on. I guess all these guys want to do is "play".
I told you on your site, this would be a revolution in the smartphone industry. You keep dismissing it as a toy, but what it is becoming is a device that lures people in based on it's interface and wonderful integration. Those "power users" recognize this.
Yeah Jack, only teenagers are going to buy the iPhone.
Jerry, you're wrong ... again. It's a high priced Toy ... period! Pure, plain and simple ... it's a high priced toy.
I'm not surprised that Kevin got one ... the hype was too much. Did you read his post? It was funny! He said:
"It was the constant commercials that got me."
The real question will be what he says about it in a month.
And did you read Matt's post? Interesting that he is keeping his other devices close at hand .... maybe , just maybe he will need them for "serious" work and the iPhone will be for play ... you know, what you do with your "toys".
JNGOLD, it is a toy. Matt likes he toy, Kevin wants to give the toy a spin. I added one to my toy box as well. I am back to the 750 since it doesnt do what "I" want it to do.
Troll on.
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Jerry, you're wrong ... again. It's a high priced Toy ... period! Pure, plain and simple ... it's a high priced toy.
I bet if MS put out the iPhone, it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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I'm not surprised that Kevin got one ... the hype was too much. Did you read his post? It was funny! He said:
"It was the constant commercials that got me."
According to you, that doesn't say much for Kevin's rational ability.
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And did you read Matt's post? Interesting that he is keeping his other devices close at hand .... maybe , just maybe he will need them for "serious" work and the iPhone will be for play ... you know, what you do with your "toys".
Of course, he's keeping his devices. The man owns more devices than anyone I know. Point is he's keeping his iPhone.
Toy or not, the iPhone is already having an effect on the mobile device industry. Apple has risen the bar for interaction with a personal computing and communication device. That point, and the point that the iPhone will appeal to more than the "teenage" or "neophyte" audience is what I have been saying all along. Say what you want, the platform is here to stay and I commend Apple for giving the mobile device industry a well needed "kick in the arse".
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