A SP1 that does not fix a thing

09-26-07, 10:37 AM

I have waited to post anything about this SP1 Beta because I wanted to have the opinions of other users before I say this: Microsoft your SP1 is a completely useless piece of crap. And basically that's what James Kendrick tell us in his post at Jkontherun.

My initial impressions of a day's usage with SP1 are muddled as I can't see any real difference. Sleep and resume takes as long as before, I've timed that several times with both operations taking about 13 seconds. This corresponds with what I noted before installing SP1 so I don't see any real difference here. The Fuji still goes through extended bouts of intense disk activity occasionally so that hasn't changed. Other than that I can't see any real differences in operation from before SP1 so at this early stage after the upgrade it's pretty much a wash.

2 hours to install a SP! I used to install the OS in two hours, now we need more than two hours to install fixes and patches to it. Another one confirming the lack of any improvement in the overall performance is Rob Bushway.

Performance does not seem to be any better or worse than before SP 1. The memory footprint about the same: about 900 Mb after startup. Start up is still slow on my 2710p: 5 minutes from power up to all programs loaded up. SP 1 has not done anything to improve that or make it worse.

I'm using Vista in my Q1 and I love Vista. This is the best OS for a Tablet PC or UMPC ever made. But at the same time this has been the worse OS released by Microsoft only comparable to the completely useless Windows ME. To be the first OS version released without Bill Gates I would say that current Microsoft administration is not doing a good job. We need less pirouettes on the stage and a better OS.

Update: I understand that this is a beta but it's a Beta that is supposed to fix things, it's a something that according to it's white papers its supposed to improve performance and so far none of these things have been fixed. Keep in mind that MS screwed everything already once when the OS was released in these conditions. So the SP1 is not first time. It's in fact a second time trying to fix what you have released "broken". In fact, the whole idea of a beta release for a SP sounds to me very incompetent from Microsoft. It shows a very high lack of confidence in what they can do fixing Vista.

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CodeBubba · 09-26-07, 10:39 AM

Ctitanic,

You are installing a BETA of a Service Pack. Suggest you wait until release of same before you pass judgement.

-CB

09-26-07, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by CodeBubba

Ctitanic,

You are installing a BETA of a Service Pack. Suggest you wait until release of same before you pass judgement.

-CB

I understand that this is a beta but it's a Beta that is supposed to fix things, it's a something that according to it's white papers its supposed to improve performance and so far none of these things have been fixed. Keep in mind that you screwed already once in the OS. so the SP1 is not your first time. It's in fact a second time trying to fix what you have released "broken" in your first release. In fact; the whole idea of a beta release for a SP sounds to me very incompetent from Microsoft. It shows a very high lack of confidence in what they can do fixing Vista.

09-26-07, 04:46 PM

Doesn't fix anything, are you joking?

I doubt why you are allowed to write articles and publish them on such a widely read website. SP1 rolls up (and more) all of the hotfixes released between Vista's release and now (including the performance packs).

Maybe it didn't "fix anything" between your most updated Vista copy and your installation of SP1 beta, because you implicitly have SP1.

09-26-07, 04:53 PM

If you check the two articles that I'm quoting you can see that the authors have not found any changes in two of the major areas where this SP should have fixed things: Performance and Boot time (coming back from Hibernation or Stand by).

I'm sure that probably there are things that have been fixed but those are the kind of things that practically nobody sees. Vista after this SP still a very slow OS in all senses.

09-26-07, 04:55 PM

To quote you:

Quote:

Microsoft your SP1 is a completely useless piece of crap.

I see you've edited the article to amend your comment about it not fixing anything. But I still wonder why you call a service pack that renders an OS more stable a useless piece of crap.

Julie · 09-26-07, 04:58 PM

I wonder how much change really happens between a Beta release of a service pack and the final version. I have read many expert recommendations to hold off on upgrading to Vista until SP1 is released. I think most experts expect the major performance issues to be addressed in SP1. If the Beta version of SP1 does not appear to address these performance issues, I think this is very telling.