Don't come up with $600 because I don't think it is worth that money. I would very much rather get a solid phone for $300 and keep my Pocket PC. I can't believe people actually think of buying it with the magic of good looks. Just like Motorola RAZR, that phone is full of bugs, with terrible interface and stinks (yes, when battery gets hot, just lift it and you will see it stinks) yet, everyone got them just because it looked cool.
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not cause it looks cool? cause it is cool. its revolutionary in that it runs osx and has everything and more that you would want in a phone! besides the fact that its beautifull, its got great potential and looks like a very capable machine for just about everything. to think of the future of this device and the way the touch screen works, the possibilities are endless. still excited
When you say, "Runs OSX" does that mean that it runs OSX, or it runs OSX like my PDA runs Windows?
The latter. I believe the initial version will not facilitate apps being downloaded, except via iTunes which I presume is 'the' sync app on the pc /mac.
At $600 bucks for this 'pda version' aka 8gb storage, it's way outta the mainstream price range. I hope later versions as the iPods themselves will come down in price. I'd say the sweet spot for an unlocked GSM phone should be in the $400 range. Hope I'm right:)
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I would very much rather get a solid phone for $300 and keep my Pocket PC.
But the problem for me the past few years is I cannot find a solid phone. Everything out there has buggy issues with UI, battery, build quality, or just trying to do way too many things and doing nothing very well. The phones are not built to last any more than a few months, if that.
I will get this simply because the phone will work well and the UI is fantastic. I don't need 60gb of storage. I have a 2gb iPod Nano that I still don't fill with music and I only load the video onto my iPaq that I'm going to watch, then delete it.
The weird thing is that it is attached to a provider (Cingular). That's terrible. I'll wait until it comes here to Singapore and I can buy just the phone, at a much cheaper price.
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But the problem for me the past few years is I cannot find a solid phone. Everything out there has buggy issues with UI, battery, build quality.
You are right on that. I had a Ericsson (not Sony Ericsson) T28 World phone, you might remember, the push button to flip it up phone. That phone lasted 3 years for me, and later I sent it to my mother in Europe and he used for another 2 years. Try that with the current samsung or motorolas. After a few months they are half-dead already. However, Nokia still makes very solid and quality-built hand sets. Don't let the lack of Nokia models in USA fool you, they are huge hits elsewhere, and they tend to impress their owners as Phone.
Anyway, I still don't think I could trust something like that (iPhone) in case of an emergency. I assume we will face dead pixels, constant screen problems & finger marks everywhere. It is still too early to tell, let us hold it and the chemistry will tell all :)
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not cause it looks cool? cause it is cool. its revolutionary in that it runs osx and has everything and more that you would want in a phone! besides the fact that its beautifull, its got great potential and looks like a very capable machine for just about everything. to think of the future of this device and the way the touch screen works, the possibilities are endless. still excited
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Seriously, the ability to listen to music, watch videos, and make calls are great, but not with a non-replaceable battery.
>8GB I don't think there will be much you need to add on this.
Currently 4.5GB / 12GB full, and more on the way. I hate internal storage when external options are there. Max write cycles anyone?
phhaaleeze... by the time the battery runs out, therell be a gen3 iphone... dont go there with the battery thing.
i am turned off by apple locking out 3rd party developers however. why does steve j0bs hate the newton so much ?
im excited, but im going to sit back on this one. im sure itll be hard to get your hands on this thing for long after june either way.
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For a device at this pricing point I do not expect to trash it after a few years of use; the built-in battery would severally limit its resale value at that time.
I also have reservation on how convenient Multi-touch would be. I like touch operation a lot personally but many–maybe most even–people dislike on-screen keyboard when they actually have to use it. The reason why Blackberry etc. include thumb keyboards is not that they cannot come up with on-screen solutions but that people prefer real buttons to virtual ones. Multi-touch has to be very revolutionary to change that.
iPhone is not really as innovative as it is being praised but Apple is moving in the right direction. More choices on phone OS is definitely a good thing, especially when we are talking about OS X.
However, Nokia still makes very solid and quality-built hand sets.
Well, I'll have to try a few more. My new Nokia 6233 hangs, drops calls and has connection issues. My wife bought one also and has already sent it in because the power button broke.
I've always trusted Nokia in the past, but there is too much of a rush now to get new phones out on the market.
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"iPhone is not really as innovative as it is being praised"
are you kidding me? the ui alone is groundbreaking! watch some of the videos to see how amazing this device is and how the user interacts with the system, its amazing. visual voicemail is great, and with the battery thing, i think apple has figured out that people dont want to send their device out to replace their batteries... im sure that the battery life will be substantial... it better be for $600.
its waaay too early for any of us to pass judgement. personally im impressed and excited so i should just leave it at that
Well, I'll have to try a few more. My new Nokia 6233 hangs, drops calls and has connection issues. My wife bought one also and has already sent it in because the power button broke.
I've always trusted Nokia in the past, but there is too much of a rush now to get new phones out on the market.
Maybe they don't make them as good anymore, like others. I guess no point spending too much for a new phone. With yearly contracts, we can swap a phone every year. (Althought they are phasing that out, and I am hating that) Luckily I was able to get a phone last day of 1-YR contract period at CompUSA :)
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The best thing that could happen to the iPhone (IMHO) is dumping Cingular ahem AT&T, and focus on GSM/wifi/BT as the communications protocols outside of cell usage. I believe there'd be a market for it outside the cell arena as voip, SMS or other usages might overshadow the crippling u.s. cell market.
Imagine an iPhone with a simm chip and a cell-contract-free world [Europe,SA] where you could move freely, THAT would match its groundshaking UI!
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Yeah I agree.. Why sell it from the Phone Company instead of selling it UnBranded from Apple stores.. You just go pick up and use any GSM SIM you want, slap it in and call people.. Heck if APPLE did their own cellphone service it would have been even more successful..
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