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Old 03-10-03, 09:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Should i buy a camera like the Veo first or a collapsable wireless keyboard for my axim? there the same price, 99$, but i need both. well i kind of need the keyboard more for school but the camera is just so cool i'm not sure which to get!!!!
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Old 03-10-03, 09:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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As a student, you NEED the keyboard, but the selection of keyboards available for the Axim are slim and IMHO not that great. I used the Targus StowAway Keyboard for the iPAQ, (actually, 2 different modles of the iPAQ prior to the DELL Axim coming out), and it was a dream come true. The Pocketop keyboard just feels WAY too small. I'd be very careful as to which keyboard you get . . . . then let us know! :-)
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Old 03-10-03, 11:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't know about you all, but I think I will hold out for a ccd megapixel cf card. Just be patient. I'm sure one will be released in the near future. I wouldn't settle for a cmos or anything below a megapixel, only because today's technology is at least equal to that standard. I'd be happy to spend the extra money for the extra quality, because it actually is something that will be noticable. Just my opinion.




I just found a review on the FlyCam-CF from LifeView. The review was tested on an Axim. Interesting.

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1123

I didn't think the quality would be that bad...but i guess that's cmos quality.

Now compare that to a sony clie n970 review with sample images

http://www.bargainpda.com/reviews/de...p?reviewID=138

That's the quality I'm waiting for.




Lets see if a cf camera, compatible with the axim, that has a CCD image sensor with 2,110k gross pixels like the sony clie is released sometime soon. Wishful thinking.


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Old 03-11-03, 08:39 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I can't find any sample pictures taken from the Veo. If anyone has one, could you snap off some and post them up? Just for reference?
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Old 03-11-03, 01:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 03-11-03, 01:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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u can get a 1.3 magapixel cam for Axim for only $148 by Pretect. work better that the VEO .3MP
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Old 03-12-03, 01:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Listen folks, the images you get from 640 X 480 resolution are nothing to write home about. I would wait for some manufacturer to offer a 2MP or better camera attachment before I would jump at this. Even better a 2MP camera attachment with a 2 or 3X zoom lens, something even the new Sony Clie doesn't have.
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For a hundred bucks and free shipping, it was worth the money. It's very small and handy to carry around. I have an expensive digital camera for my endeavours that require better photography; however, for moments when a little camera would come in handy, this little one is great.

I'm happy with it, but it really depends on what you're looking for in the camera.

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Pretec Better resolution?? maybe Yes Maybe No.
I took a look at their main page for the camera and it says taht it will do "up to" 640 x 480 which is the same as the other camera. Then I took a look at thier PDF for the camera and it seems they have two models. The lower ended one is 640 x 480 and their other one is 1280 x 1024. If that is true you better be carefull on which you get. I also worry when I see the phrase "up to" in the resolution as lots of cameras out there use software to enhance the resolution you get. In this case it looks as though it is a hardware setting though. Just better to be prepared.
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For a hundred bucks and free shipping, it was worth the money. It's very small and handy to carry around. I have an expensive digital camera for my endeavours that require better photography; however, for moments when a little camera would come in handy, this little one is great.

I'm happy with it, but it really depends on what you're looking for in the camera.

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Some Pics and coments

It's not that easy. . . . well, it is easy to pos the images up online, but they appear different when on the computer than they do on the Axim. For example, the image might look great on the Axim, but when viewing the SAME image on the PC, it will appear with a very strong green hue, or a pink orange hue depending on the setting you use on the Axim.

I have included 4 photos here, naming each according to the name of the setting. Each one was taken approximately 2.5 feet from my Axim. Each photo was taken with the "brightness" at 50%, using the 160x120 (QQVGA) setting. Notice that the kitchen light is on, at night, so understand that their is a LOT of yellow light here that should be here. These photos look terrible when viewing them on a PC, but they look great when viewing them on the Axim.


Auto White Balance Setting


Fluorescent Light Setting


Incandescent Light Setting


Outdoor Life Setting

Now, having posted these, don't let this discourage you from getting a Veo just yet; These images have NOT been touched up at all.

Evidently, Veo knows that this is a problem, because they provide software that EASILY allows you to edit the contrast, hue, etc. on the PC. Please let me re-emphasize how easy it is to modify the hue and contrast.

Frankly, I am dissappointed that the picture that displays on the Axim does not automatically transfer to teh PC as it was taken, propper hue, contast, brightness and all. But I do think that it's a nice toy. If anyone knows of a solution to this problem, (transfering the image to the PC with the SAME look as it has on the Axim), PLEASE do share.

Below is a doctored version of the "Outdoor Life Setting". I dropped the saturation down significantly, (-40) in FireWorks. It took me 4 minutes.


Outdoor Life (Touched up version).

Can I doctor the photo in Fireworks to make it look nice? Sure. Should I have to? Certainly not.
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Now hold on there ... you mean you can't download the images? I thought the purpose of a camera was to produce images for, perhaps, others to look at.
All right, a color correction on the PC should fix that, but when I take images from my PC to the Axim, they look just fine. There's no radical tinting inherent on the PDA display.

I'll be reviewing the Pretec CF camera soon, so I'll see if this is a common problem or what.
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I have a Pretect 1.3Mp cam at 1280 x 1024 for $148. U have to look clostly at it it does say 1.3 maga pixal on it and the .3 is equal to the Veo Cam is around 70 to 80 dollor better deal than Veo deal.
The pretect cam has great images but the video recording is = to the VEO one only good for outdoor video recording with high lighting lvl at .3 MP.
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The Veo Photo Traveler I just received DOES NOT fit into my Dell Axim! It is too short for the CF slot. Has this happened to anyone else? I'm calling Dell now to return it.
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You got that Veo from DELL? IF (and ONLY if), the Veo has a RED sticker on the package itself (the plastic garb that houses the Veo), will it work on your Axim. I made the same mistake by purchasing at Comp USA.
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