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Old 08-11-05, 01:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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REVIEW : Seidio Audio Adapters

Gigi reviews some Audio Adapters from Seidio!

"The Seidio microphone audio adapter and the microphone/speaker audio adapter are two handy accessories that do their job well. Both are great for those who need to do serious audio recordings, and the microphone/speaker adapter is ideal for those who want to use their own headphones/speakers for VOIP or audio applications." -Gigi

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Old 08-11-05, 09:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Glad to see the site quite active on the reviews lately, :approve: Chris & Gigi must be working harder than usual!

The Seidio dual 3.5mm input & output audio jack looks interesting. Priced at $11.95. If I am not wrong PC-mobile do stock such audio adapters too, but they are going at $12.75 (& they always sell themselves as a budget accessory maker... heh :rolling: ) However, PC-mobile do have a rather indigenous method of identifying the microphone jack - being slightly shorter than the audio output.
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Old 08-11-05, 12:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No offense to anybody, but those prices are ridiculous, both from seidio and PC-Mobile.

This isn't like some crazy proprietary connection. The triple tip mini-plug is used by a lot of modern day camcorders who use them for composite video + audio R + audio L. To charge $10+ for a 4" cable sounds looney to me.
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it IS looney. Could I find a similar adapter/extension at best buy, radio shack, etc for less?
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Originally Posted by otto48313
it IS looney. Could I find a similar adapter/extension at best buy, radio shack, etc for less?
Months before I received these adapters for review, I looked all over RadioShack for a suitable adapter, but could only find ones for cell phones (mono, 2.5mm). They don't seem that easy to find, at least where I live.
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Months before I received these adapters for review, I looked all over RadioShack for a suitable adapter, but could only find ones for cell phones (mono, 2.5mm). They don't seem that easy to find, at least where I live.
Yeah, the only way I can think of to do it would end up costing about the same amount.

There are plenty of these tri-tipped cables out there but, like I said, they're made for DV, therefore the other end of the cable is three RCA males. So you'd have to get adapters for each of them.

The adapters are readily available, but it stops being so cost effective at that point because you're paying a couple bucks for each adapter plus a few bucks for the original cable. Suddenly you're up at the $10 mark again. The only upside would be that the cables for camcorders are much longer so you'd have a longer reach (if that mattered at all)

These cables will eventually become mainstream and only cost a couple bucks because, unlike something like the x50v sync connector, the 3.5mm plug and jack is a standard item. So, I guess, until that point, paying $10 is what you've got to do.
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BTW, if people aren't sure what camcorder cables I'm talking about, you can see one here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7538060399


Thinking about it more, eBay will probably be the first place we'll see these at a low cost. Places like BestBuy still sell the camcorder cables (like the one in the auction) for $12-$24 so the ones for the Axim will still be available for a high price (if you want to pay it).

The other option is to build your own. Again, unlike the 50-pin Axim sync cable, these are BASIC and EASY connections to make. Literally a couple solder dots on a handful of decent sized pins. I don't know where you can get empty triple-tip-mini plugs, but I'm sure they're available somewhere. I'll let you know if I find them.
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Old 08-12-05, 09:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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yes, ebay is always a good option, if you can find them. I like the idea of making your own. Let us know if you find those mini plugs anywhere.I have searched for them before with no luck.
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Forgive my ignorance, but how can these AV tri-tipped cables work? The output is RCA, which is audio-out and video-out, right? How can you split that to add the microphone component?

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Originally Posted by Gigi
Forgive my ignorance, but how can these AV tri-tipped cables work? The output is RCA, which is audio-out and video-out, right? How can you split that to add the microphone component?
I'm not sure I'm understanding the question, but you shouldn't need to split anything. Basically the AV cables are the same thing that these Sedio cables are (unless I'm misunderstanding what these Sedio cables do)

The difference is, instead of going from the mini plug to RCA1, RCA2 and RCA3, the Sedio cables go to one mono plug (the microphone) and to one stereo plug (the headphones)

RCA1 ->becomes-> microphone jack

RCA2 & RCA3 ->become-> stereo headphone jack.

Again, maybe the Sedio plug does something I don't know about, but all you'd have to do is to take that A/V cable, and attach something like this (you'd need addtl gender changers for this one)

to two of the RCA jacks and plug your headphones in the end.

Then, with the remaining 3rd RCA end, you just get an RCA-to-mono mini jack for your microphone. Something like this (again, you'd need a gender changer for the RCA end, but this should give you an idea of how it would work)
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Thanks for the explanation, new2axim. Your explanation makes perfect sense to me; I just didn't know that you could take a cable made for video to use for audio. I had always assumed the color coding (e.g., yellow, white, red) really indicated differences in pins configuration, etc. Shows how much I really know about A/V stuff... :hide:
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thx for the tutorial...also - can I record in stereo with just the microphone adapter? I know the on board mic on the x50v records in stereo, but I wonder if I attach an external mic to the headphone jack will it also record in stereo?
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Originally Posted by Gigi
Thanks for the explanation, new2axim. Your explanation makes perfect sense to me; I just didn't know that you could take a cable made for video to use for audio. I had always assumed the color coding (e.g., yellow, white, red) really indicated differences in pins configuration, etc. Shows how much I really know about A/V stuff... :hide:
Ahhh.... gotcha. Now I understand. No, each of those RCA cables is exactly the same. You can use the yellow "video" cable for audio or vise versa. And that's why the prices of these audio cables bugs me. They're really basic two or three wire pieces. I'm horrible at soldering but even I can put together an RCA or 3.5mm mini plug. They're very very simple items.

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Originally Posted by otto48313
thx for the tutorial...also - can I record in stereo with just the microphone adapter? I know the on board mic on the x50v records in stereo, but I wonder if I attach an external mic to the headphone jack will it also record in stereo?
My guess (and this is ONLY a guess) was that the microphone jack was mono. And, I would still guess that that is the case. There's only one microphone on the Axim, right?
- If there's only one mic element, then you've got mono.
- If you can only hook up a single microphone, then you've got mono.
- If you're able to playback the sounds recorded with a single mic, but yet you hear them in both ears, then you have "dual mono" which isn't quite the same as stereo.

My guess (and again, I haven't done any of this) is that you've got a mono mic jack that will play back two-channel-mono. IOW, the same mono signal plays back in both ears.
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Originally Posted by otto48313
thx for the tutorial...also - can I record in stereo with just the microphone adapter? I know the on board mic on the x50v records in stereo, but I wonder if I attach an external mic to the headphone jack will it also record in stereo?
Good question. I did not differential mono vs. stereo recording in my review, but I could do more testing for you since I have access to both a mono and stereo mic. Is there a way to definitive way to determine if the recording is in stereo or mono?
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